Juraj Slafkovsky - Year Two
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le_sean
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You’re naming talented guys that were sent back to a league they had already dominated (CHL) versus guys that were tasked with figuring it out at the highest level at 18 years old. It’s not really a fair comparison. If Slafkovsky was sent to the OHL, you’d be saying “holy shit this guy is good”
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Pacioretty was wait and see. 2nd full season many people though he was a 3rd liner at best. McDonagh was wait and see. Sergachev. Nobody though Markov was gonna be what he was. I don’t remember consensus being Uber positive on Suzuki. Many people were kinda meh on Caufield.
Slaf’s looking much better. I see more in him than Patches at the same age.
We’ll…wait and see
malcb33
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Those are some giant leaps in that video. A superstar, sure maybe in time, but let's see a regular contributor in the top 6 first.
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Slafkovsky is not wait and see.
Listen.
The big majority of the high end prospect that has become star have had major growth in their D+2, even tho they struggled in their D+1.(Hughes, Draisaitl, Rantanen, Stutzle, Thornton, Lecavalier)
Those who did not, it was a major red flag. (KK, Galchenyuk, Yakupov). Lafreniere could start to fit in this category. Byfield too.
In a pure statistical point of view, Slaf should be part of the 1st category. We will, from our experience as habs fan, have a tendency to judge him through the Galchenyuk/KK lense.
Slaf is not wait and see.
We should reasonably expect growth and impactful plays right now. Which also was visible in the extremely worthless and small sample size exhibition games.
Lets just give him a chance to display it.
Its not wait and see.
But its still give him a bit more than 39 games maybe.
He is a 1st overall pick. He is a special prospect and i expect to see Stutzle/Draisaitl like growth this year.
Not wait and see. Thats not what we want from a future megastar.
Listen.
The big majority of the high end prospect that has become star have had major growth in their D+2, even tho they struggled in their D+1.(Hughes, Draisaitl, Rantanen, Stutzle, Thornton, Lecavalier)
Those who did not, it was a major red flag. (KK, Galchenyuk, Yakupov). Lafreniere could start to fit in this category. Byfield too.
In a pure statistical point of view, Slaf should be part of the 1st category. We will, from our experience as habs fan, have a tendency to judge him through the Galchenyuk/KK lense.
Slaf is not wait and see.
We should reasonably expect growth and impactful plays right now. Which also was visible in the extremely worthless and small sample size exhibition games.
Lets just give him a chance to display it.
Its not wait and see.
But its still give him a bit more than 39 games maybe.
He is a 1st overall pick. He is a special prospect and i expect to see Stutzle/Draisaitl like growth this year.
Not wait and see. Thats not what we want from a future megastar.
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I made reference to this a while back... it really, really helps when you've got a superstar in the lineup to help other players develop. That's something that's really held us back. Imagine how much easier it would be for a guy like Slaf if we said, 'hey... go suit up with Mackinnon tonight.' Points are way easier, it leads to confidence, that always you to build your game more... We've sorely missed that on our team forever.Let's get him a McDavid and that should settle things
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Caufield broke records in the college leagues. There was a ton of hype. We stupidly did not use him more in the playoff run. Suzuki did well in the AHL, I think people were excited about him too.Pacioretty was wait and see. 2nd full season many people though he was a 3rd liner at best. McDonagh was wait and see. Sergachev. Nobody though Markov was gonna be what he was. I don’t remember consensus being Uber positive on Suzuki. Many people were kinda meh on Caufield.
Slaf’s looking much better. I see more in him than Patches at the same age.
We’ll…wait and see
Lafleurs Guy
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Slaf forgot the official response is; *we appreciate your passion*
Must be speaking about HF. Constant bad takes for a 19 year old that's played 39 games.
There might have been more hate o these boards for Caufield than there was for Slaf. Tons of shit talking after that one WJHC.
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He had a crap tourney but I think most people here were still really excited about him.
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Oh, here we go again with the ''instant star'' demand.....I remember saying this is exactly why some fans are not really ready for a rebuild.
Subban became special at his D+4
Price was almost run out of town and it took him D+5 to be the stars that we got, you are actually the equivalent oof those fans that shat on Price in his first few years in Montreal saying he would never win anything.
Slafkovsky is D+39games
Most prospect you have to wait and see. Very, very few players get to be an instant star in his drat years and even guys like Mackinnon and Hughes couldn't pull it off......and I don't thinkSlaf will be even close to these guys, but your expectation are not based in reality
dackelljuneaubulis02
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I meant more with their starts in the pros. There wasn’t exactly a ‘wow’ consensus with their starts with the Habs. McDonagh doesn’t quite fall in that category so maybe strike him from there
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Well, CC was pretty much instantly a 45+ goal scorer as soon as his idiot coach went away.
McDonaugh's name still makes me cry when I hear it. What a huge rip off that trade was.
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My guy, I hope you are right. I would love Slaf to grow into a" Megastar", but I'm certainly not as confident that will happen, hopeful, but not confident. So I guess, I'm firmly in the wait-and-see camp
Sure, Slaf has shown some growth in pre-season which is positive, but I haven't seen him outright dominating for stretches yet against lower-level players. My early impression is that he is likely to take a step in the right direction this season, but I wouldn't expect him to play at a superstar level for a sustained period this season.
I guess my timeline with Slaf is longer and his ceiling is lower, but I'm happy to be proven wrong.
le_sean
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Then a bunch more would just say “of course he’s dominating, he’s 6’3 230lbs playing against 16 year olds”
The fanbase is never happy and extremely impatient.
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Yeah but the half season and the playoff run before, people weren’t completely sold on him.
Ironically enough it was really just you and I who we’re super bullish on his potential at that point who we’re being vocal about it. Others liked him but thought maybe he’d be Cammy good or 30 goals good. But you and I didn’t hedge at all. I remember it clear as day
I dunno, I was pretty stoked watching Cole shovelling pucks into the net in the NCAA. Same when Suzuki put his team on his back to take them to the memorial cup. The idea that it would be somehow bad to be stoked about a prospect having success at a lower level doesn't really compute for me.
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Some were saying he wouldn’t have even dominated junior last year.
There’s a small but sizeable enough minority who really think his upside is damn low.
Even if he only dominated one of the Olympics or WC at that age, you can’t just ignore that virtually unprecedented feat. But yeah be skeptical. Fair enough. But when he does it twice you have to think there’s something real there. You don’t just outright ignore it. He showed incredible things there.
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Considering the biggest mark against Slaf is his difficulty to follow plays and generate production, I think many here would be happy to see him show he knows how to make plays.
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Pacioretty was wait and see. 2nd full season many people though he was a 3rd liner at best. McDonagh was wait and see. Sergachev. Nobody though Markov was gonna be what he was. I don’t remember consensus being Uber positive on Suzuki. Many people were kinda meh on Caufield.
Slaf’s looking much better. I see more in him than Patches at the same age.
We’ll…wait and see
Actually, Andrei Markov was a blue chip prospect.
Back when hockey's future had a prospect ranking system, Markov was rated a 9.0, which was superstar potential. I don't think any other prospect in Montreal ever got that rating, including price (although I could be wrong on that)
I recall Andrei Markov coming to Vancouver to play an exhibition game back in 2000 when he was trying to make the nhl team, and the Canucks commentators were raving about his game and how much of a slam dunk he is.
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Yeah how silly of me to want a highly ranked and highly hyped draft pick to show something special beyond “he’s very very heavy for his age”
We should tank every year, sure
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