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Hope this kid continues to grow. Hate seeing prospects torn down for not living up to insane fan hype.
Not every year is a Bedard available. Not every year is as deep as 2003 was.Hope this kid continues to grow. Hate seeing prospects torn down for not living up to insane fan hype.
I prefer the worst #1 of all time thread for the deliciously misinformed takes.Can we merge this thread with that other thread that was asking if slafkovsky is the worst #1 pick of all time?
He brings Laine style but with nice hair. Thats pretty rare
Pretty sure it was deleted for petty reasons.Can we merge this thread with that other thread that was asking if slafkovsky is the worst #1 pick of all time?
Probably a Montreal fan. You have a lot of vocal people. Either everyones a bust or is the next LeClairWhich fanbase originated the “Worst #1 overall” thread? Leafs or Devils?
I think you mean matthewCurrently in the NHL, the closest thing to a unicorn is probably Brady Tkachuk.
Not even 20 yet. Some of the times I've seen him play, you can tell he has immense potential to go with that size.
A bigger bodied Joe Thornton took a few years to get going before taking over the league. I'm definitely not suggesting he is going to have a Joe T. type of career, but he has all the tools to be a very good and dominant player for a long time. He certainly won't be considered as one of the all-time 1st overall busts in a couple years time as has been whispered a bit.
I don’t mind the pick but think he should have been given time to marinade either at home or in Laval. Not every 1st OA need to be rushed into the show.
He still probably develops into a good player. He has the skills and just needed time to catch up.
True. Some of the arguments for keeping him in a lesser league last year were straight up obnoxious, and in hindsight, completely wrong.This is an argument you could have used last year. Now that he is performing on an NHL first line against top pairing D’s…I mean in Europe he wouldn’t have learn to play in reduced time and space. In the AHL, maybe but still, it’s not exactly NHL speed of play.
I was a proponent of having him in the A last year, but I now admit I was wrong. He had the character to be thrown into the wolfes den and figure it out.
He's third in primary points/gp, yes. Like I said, he's a really promising young player. But there are ~3-4 guys playing in the NHL today that I would take ahead of him. I could be wrong, and he could end up the best player from his draft, but it would surprise me.
Whiskey is a proud poster and has a dislike for the Habs. Slaf would have to be slap in the face better than anyone else in the draft for him to concede. As evidenced by filtering down to Even strength, primary points to point out Cooleys statistical advantage. I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to his opinion on Slaf.serious question, how many of Slaf’s last 20 games have you seen?
Cooley and Slaf are producing at the same pace, but one is a power forward, top 5 heaviest guy in the league, turning into an agressive forechecker, and making is linemates noticeably better (Suzuki and Caufield have their best 5v5 advanced stats since playing with Slaf).
I live Nemec, probably a closer call in a redraft. Habs still pick Slaf no doubt based on needs.
Slaf was unlucky for a while which pollutes his production…or should I say, Anderson couldn’t buy a damn goal. 5v5 his on-ice goals are 7 short of expected which means 5-6 5v5 points short. If you know advanced stats at all, you know that over the long run these gaps normalise.
Probably 6-8 games.serious question, how many of Slaf’s last 20 games have you seen?
Cooley and Slaf are producing at the same pace, but one is a power forward, top 5 heaviest guy in the league, turning into an agressive forechecker, and making is linemates noticeably better (Suzuki and Caufield have their best 5v5 advanced stats since playing with Slaf).
I live Nemec, probably a closer call in a redraft. Habs still pick Slaf no doubt based on needs.
Slaf was unlucky for a while which pollutes his production…or should I say, Anderson couldn’t buy a damn goal. 5v5 his on-ice goals are 7 short of expected which means 5-6 5v5 points short. If you know advanced stats at all, you know that over the long run these gaps normalise.
I really don't have a dislike for the Habs, and primary points are used all the time to discuss player production. I like Slaf a lot as a player. He's on the path to becoming a dominant PWF.Whiskey is a proud poster and has a dislike for the Habs. Slaf would have to be slap in the face better than anyone else in the draft for him to concede. As evidenced by filtering down to Even strength, primary points to point out Cooleys statistical advantage. I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to his opinion on Slaf.
That said, he did have Cooley as his #1 before the draft so I can understand his reasoning for sticking behind him so devoutly.
Well maybe I'm mistaken, and its more of your admiration of Cooley than your dislike of Slaf. Anyways, I do consider you an informed poster.I really don't have a dislike for the Habs, and primary points are used all the time to discuss player production. I like Slaf a lot as a player. He's on the path to becoming a dominant PWF.
He’s not a generational #1, nor is he in the first tier or even second tier yet. But worst is just a hyperbole. Older posters will remember Lawton, Daigle, Stefan and Kluzak. Some of the 70s draftees are disasters. He’s better than his stats lead you to believe.Let’s be real here…the unicorn commentary is more to counterbalance the “worst #1 pick ever” hyperbole.
Looks like most Habs fans are being fairly reasonable in here…he’s a big, toolsy forward who has shown very positive progression lately. He still wouldn’t be my #1 or #2 pick in a re-draft…but it’s still super early and even if he’s not my choice - his recent play would suggest the Habs certainly have no regrets at this point.