Eh,maybe. I think Zuccarello, Brassard, Kreider, and Moore are going to get bent over and there will be a couple million to address the forward issues.
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Eh,maybe. I think Zuccarello, Brassard, Kreider, and Moore are going to get bent over and there will be a couple million to address the forward issues.
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That would be ideal. I think about ~$11.5M for those three is realistic. $10M would be incredible.
Yes they can.
Well they can do whatever they want, but Brass and Zucc would become UFAs after this contract would be up right? Would rather try to find room now and retain them longer then sign them cheap and try to find a shiny new toy in this market.
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Hardball in terms of cap hit, not term. I think Slats would want to lock up Zucc for around $3.5M to $4M over 4-5 years. Brassard would likely get about the same, but over 3-4 years instead.
I'm curious where management stands on Brassard. Personally, I don't consider him an integral piece. Zuccarello, yeah.
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I'd much rather do so with Zucc. I'm pretty confident he'll be at least a 55-60 point player for the next few years. I actually think he could continue to improve, and the contract would end up being a steal. Brassard, I am not that high on. He is what he is - and inconsistent 2/3 tweener. He just happens to have excellent chemistry with one of our best playmakers.
I get the general concern, though. Zucc's only had one consistently good season. He has, however, improved in each of his NHL stints, IMO.
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Yeah. If we're not going to commit to Zucc long term, what exactly are we looking for? He's improved consistently, and he ran the offense to a huge degree last year for someone in his position. It'd be nice if he had a few more years of proof, but then he wouldn't be RFA. Sign him.
Brassard is already overpaid (thanks Columbus), so I worry about what will happen in arbitration with him.
Zuccarello needs to prove he can do it again before 3,4,5 years are committed, in my opinion. He might have a tougher time this year permanently slotted behind Nash and MSL for an entire season. That said, he should get a 200%+ bump in salary compared to this year. But I think it'll only be a 1 year deal.
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Are we treating last years point leader as a "third line" commodity forever ? Put Kreider with him and that line will net 170 points next season
BlueshirtBlitz
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People always clamor to pay for the next great player before it costs us 7 million.
That's Zuke.
That's Zuke.
haveandare
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Then, next year, give Zucc another raise in addition to resigning Stepan, Hagelin, Staal, maybe MSL, maybe Talbot?
Zucc didn't leave when he was cut. He came back and took a discount. By all accounts, he's willing to take something of a discount again now. Do we really need to jerk him around more? He works hard. He scores points. He wants to be here. I'd just get him done for the future now.
That was the narrative to promote an ill-conceived push for Jarome Iginla.
But since hes played RW with the Rangers almost exclusively, Im gonna go ahead and call him a RW.
The Rangers have the best RW depth in the league, for what its worth.
Ill worry about next year's stuff when I see how those guys did this upcoming season.
Sather stated it perfectly. Hes had 1 good NHL season. Is it really jerking him around by not giving him a 4-5 year deal worth $16-20M that he hasn't yet earned? C'mon.
Oh sure I'd be thrilled with that. I just don't want them to give Zucc and Brass 1 year deals to penny pinch for some UFA.
As we learned today, Zucc wants 5 mill X 4. Maybe he'll accept 4.8 mill or something.
If no deal he'll go for 1 year at market value, 4-4.5 mill.
Still no deal...arbitration.
Unless...an offer sheet appears during summer months, he could jump on it.
If no deal he'll go for 1 year at market value, 4-4.5 mill.
Still no deal...arbitration.
Unless...an offer sheet appears during summer months, he could jump on it.
haveandare
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That how you get into spots like this offseason IMO. Thinking, let's deal with next year next year, rather than thinking a little bit ahead and trying to avoid massive cap crunches like this.
In that 1 good season, Zucc led the team in points from the second/third line. Is it more likely that he suddenly regresses next year and is somehow rendered untradable, despite all the awful assets that are traded year after year after year, or is it more likely that he scores 70ish points, demands a raise, and ends like Boyle or something where the team doesn't even offer him a contract and instead spends that money on someone who "should" be able to do the job but ultimately doesn't simply because management doesn't like being had? It's pretty obvious to me which is more likely.
Zucc has, for whatever reason, given this team a break multiple times already and he's willing to do so yet again if he gets some term. I wouldn't push the good will of a guy who just led the team in scoring, and rather than cashing in, is willing to take a friendly deal in exchange for some years. Worst case, sign him to a long deal and trade him if it becomes a problem. Bad assets get traded all the time because teams want to give people second/third/fourth chances and because teams need to hit the cap floor.
The risk is way, way greater if they don't give him a long term deal this year IMO. The risk of doing so is negligible.
Idlerlee
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This will be Zucc's 4th 1 year/short term contract (if it comes to that)
Who in their right mind would accept another 1 year term when they finally broke out and lead a NHL team in scoring over a full season ? No one thats who
Its pointless to hold that over his head when he's been so patient with the organization, always wanted to be with the Rangers, never complained to the media, perfect teamplayer.
Also we just gave Glass 3 years, so you know.. Glass
Who in their right mind would accept another 1 year term when they finally broke out and lead a NHL team in scoring over a full season ? No one thats who
Its pointless to hold that over his head when he's been so patient with the organization, always wanted to be with the Rangers, never complained to the media, perfect teamplayer.
Also we just gave Glass 3 years, so you know.. Glass
Pls elaborate. Why?
We need to be better down the pivot, esp 1C.
As I've said, Miller + his speed linked to Kreider, Marty, regardless of that is 1st or 2nd line.
Brass + Zuc = next line, w/RyJo
Jurco ready later this year,
Larkin down the road
Det's 2015 1st
We have to move our 2 most expensive D after McD.
We get RyJo + Kreider long term. Foundation w/McD.
WHAT is so bad about this?
Tell me, how does your light shine on the road to Sham ba la,
and while you're at it,
WHAT is so bad about this?
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Does no one remember the summer of Dubi and Cally's arb year RFA contracts? Give it some time, people.
haveandare
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The third pair playing second pairing minutes and non NHL players playing third pair is the worst part by a lot. Boyle on the first pair isn't much better.
