Player elected arbitration deadline is tomorrow at 5pm. Brassard,Zuccarello and Kreider. Free agency started on July 5th last season because of the lockout. The arbitration deadline was July 10th. McDonagh signed his 6 year deal on July 8. Hagelin and Falk were also arb eligible and they signed on the morning of the 10th. Zuccarello was the only player to file.
July 1st recap: Now and the Future
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Matt Rentfree
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I really hope you're right, because right now, due to the signings Sather made (and didn't make), IMO, this team looks like a steaming corn studded piece of ****.
I Am Chariot
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It's a real gamble trying to get out of the east without replacing Richards with a bona fide proven player. An elite player would be great but at least someone who has some experience and can score some goals.
Replacing Anton with Dan Boyle could be a good move. A gamble but worth a shot.
Losing Brian Boyle just plain sucks. Is he replaceable....sure his minutes are but he was part of the good chemistry on the team and was great on the PK.
Felt the same way when we lost Prust though and we advanced..
Not really sure what to think of all these other minor signings. They sure don't appear to replace Richards on the score sheet.
I'm firmly in the WIN NOW camp as Lundqvist is the keystone to this teams success. HAVE TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD, NOT BACKWARDS
All this leads me to suspect a trade.... but who knows?
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Seriously?
The only player that we lost that you can argue is a "core" player is Stralman, and he played the fourth most minutes of our defenseman. He was replaced with someone who will upgrade our offensive presence from the blueline, something we so desperately need - even if Boyle happens to be past his prime. At the contract we got him at, it was a no brainer.
We didn't lose McDonagh, Stepan, Kreider, Hank, Zuccarello, Staal, Girardi, any players of those caliber. "Steaming pile of ****" is a ridiculous overreaction, IMO.
Matt Rentfree
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I hope you're right - I'll gladly admit to being reactionary if you are, but the way I see it, we have 14 players signed to contracts (assuming Kostka is our 7th D). That leaves 15.68M to sign 9 players. Let's assume Brass signs for 3.7 (a stretch), Kreider does a 2.5 bridge, Zucc signs for 4, and J Moore signs for 1.4. That leaves just over 4M to sign/promote 5 players (Miller, Lindberg and Fast eat up 3M). Right now, our 4th line is Glass/Moore/? - a HUGE downgrade. We play a transition game that relies on speed and just signed a 2nd pairing D man that is old and (relatively speaking) slow. I think this team is in serious trouble.
SA16
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You never know about the 4th line. Before last year you wouldn't have though Dorsett, Boyle, Moore would have been a good 4th line and it turned out it was. Moore hadn't played in over a year. Dorsett had played a few games with us the year before and wasn't very good. Boyle was his typical self. In any case it's not very important. The 4th line is the least important part of any team.
Matt Rentfree
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If Torts were still the coach, I'd agree. But AV's system relies on rolling 4 lines and keeping everyone's legs fresh.
SA16
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But in any case it is the least important spot. Less so than the top 3 lines. Less than the 3 defensive pairings. It's more important with AV than torts but it's still the least important part of the roster. Additionally I'm pretty sure if it turns out the line doesn't work AV will adjust and shift their minutes down and an a minute or so to everyone elses TOI.
This.
Nash take's Pouliot's spot as he's a similar body type and better at just about everything if he's playing like he can.
Also, there's no chance Fast is used in anything other than a 4th line depth role.
I believe at least one of Kristo/Haggerty will make the team out of camp for a 3rd line role if one is still available.
I Am Chariot
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Agreed, but legs dont score goals...skill scores goals.
They got to the finals, a lot of things went right...but ultimately they lost THREE games in OT and today they are less skilled than they were at the end of the season.
Richards was slow but skilled with the puck. Not as easy a guy to replace as many people think. I like the trend towards a faster team but you still have to believe in the same mantra...
Get Lundqvist a lead -- and 2 goal leads weren't enough against the Kings. There is more work to be done
First of all, it's not about "we didn't lose _____"
After falling just short of the ultimate goal, we hoped we'd see some moves to improve the team or at least replace what we were losing in Richards thanks to the ex post facto ******** recapture rule.
We definitely didn't get better. And it's arguable that we got worse (for the time being; granted there is a long offseason ahead).
Secondly, you telling us that we replaced Stralman with a guy who "WILL improve our offense from the blue line" is your opinion, not fact. Dan Boyle may get hurt and miss 80 games this season. He also may not be able to keep up with the faster teams in the East and he may not even provide the offense on the PP to make up for it. So don't make an argument telling us what a FA signing WILL do. It's what we all hope he does, but fans have every right to doubt or lament the signing right now because of his age and decline in play over the past few seasons. Hopefully the change of scenery rejuvenates him. We don't know.
So, relax with your overreacting to everyone else's overreacting. This is to be expected, especially when a team loses fan favorites in Boyle and Stralman, whether it was the right move to let them go or not, it's unclear whether we will be able to adequately replace those players and what they brought to the team.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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I see:
Kreider-Stepan-MSL
Hagelin-Miller-Nash
xxx-Brassard-Zuccarello
Glass-Moore-Fast
Would love to get Booth or Morin for that open LW spot.
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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haohmaru
boomshakalaka
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
Twenty f*ckin years
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Honestly, everyone's been bringing up Setoguchi, and I didn't want to say it because I feel like I'd be swarmed - but Setoguchi kind of sucks. The only positive aspects of his game are his right handed shot and shooting ability. There's a reason a team with no RW depth let him go for nothing.
Booth at least brings size, speed, and forechecking ability. he isn't the 30 goal guy he was in Florida, but he's a solid third liner, IMO.
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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