Confirmed with Link: JT Miller traded to NYR for Filip Chytil, Victor Mancini and 1st round pick (top 13 protected)

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JT Miller was 25 when the Rangers traded him. My point is simply that you can't make the statement that a player "is what he is" when the player he was traded for is a glaring example of the opposite.

Lol this is incredible

 

[TheWrongWay]

Extracts from a JT Miller interview:​

“I’ve played with a handful of the guys before,” Miller said. “Having a best friend on the team – I don’t think at the start of the year we were thinking about playing with each other, but when the opportunity came, obviously, that’s something for our families that’s really special. For us to be here together, trying to work together to get a common goal – that’s a really cool feeling. We’re both very lucky.”

Until Miller gets settled back into the Big Apple, he’ll be living with Trocheck – something that never was up for discussion.

“I didn’t ask. I just moved right in,” Miller said with a smile.

On the ice, Miller has already made drastic improvements to the man-advantage. In the first two games with Miller on top unit, it has clicked at a remarkable 60%, scoring on three of the five attempts they’ve had.

“I think we’re just trying to get to know the tendencies a little bit,” Miller said. “I’ve played with Kreids and Mika, so I kind of know what they’re doing. I know Bread and Foxy are special players. I’m used to having lefties on the unit, and I’ve got righties on the unit – so I’m trying to get out of the way sometimes and also try to make myself available.”

Miller’s presence has been felt everywhere – on the ice, in the room, and even away from the rink. He’s the guy that they’ve needed – someone who drags everyone into the fight with him. Not only does he have an aura, but he seems to have a ton of gratitude in his second stint with the original six franchise that drafted him.

“The support has been amazing so far, even coming back into town – old friends reaching out, it’s just been a crazy 48 hours,” Miller said. “As I can tell, it’s a good group of guys here and a hungry hockey team, so it was a pretty good character third period by the guys. We’re in a desperate position – we don’t really have time to wait and see what happens. A lot of games are going to be like that coming down the stretch. It was nice to be on the right side of it.”

Full article:

Is J.T. Miller the spark the Rangers needed?

 

[bhamill]

JT Miller was 25 when the Rangers traded him. My point is simply that you can't make the statement that a player "is what he is" when the player he was traded for is a glaring example of the opposite.

I said ABOUT what he is. And in fact though he has never scored more than 45 points I said he may end up being a 60pt scorer. That’s a jump of 33.3%…

JT was traded by the Rangers when he was 24 and had already had a 56 point season. JTs jump in scoring happened after TBL traded him, at 26, which you would THINK would help your argument, except both teams traded Miller because he wasn’t living up to his potential. He wasn’t applying himself. Had a bad attitude. Any of that apply to Fil? Nope. In fact the opposite. The worry on him is concussions, not attitude.

Either way, Miller is the exception, not the rule.

 

[TheWrongWay]

I said ABOUT what he is. And in fact though he has never scored more than 45 points I said he may end up being a 60pt scorer. That’s a jump of 33.3%…

JT was traded by the Rangers when he was 24 and had already had a 56 point season. JTs jump in scoring happened after TBL traded him, at 26, which you would THINK would help your argument, except both teams traded Miller because he wasn’t living up to his potential. He wasn’t applying himself. Had a bad attitude. Any of that apply to Fil? Nope. In fact the opposite. The worry on him is concussions, not attitude.

Either way, Miller is the exception, not the rule.

Absolutely. Relative to that, I watched an interview with JT about a year ago where he was asked why he felt he blossomed so late. Can't verbatim recall his answer, but along the lines of he wasn't mature and fully focused in NY and TB. He seemed genuinely let down by his first stint here, like he wished he'd done things differently

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I said ABOUT what he is. And in fact though he has never scored more than 45 points I said he may end up being a 60pt scorer. That’s a jump of 33.3%…

JT was traded by the Rangers when he was 24 and had already had a 56 point season. JTs jump in scoring happened after TBL traded him, at 26, which you would THINK would help your argument, except both teams traded Miller because he wasn’t living up to his potential. He wasn’t applying himself. Had a bad attitude. Any of that apply to Fil? Nope. In fact the opposite. The worry on him is concussions, not attitude.

Either way, Miller is the exception, not the rule.

This is missing some context. Miller's scoring numbers jumped with Vancouver happened because he got more ice time and he finally got significant PP time. Miller averaged an extra minute at 5v5 on Vancouver vs both the Rangers and Tampa. He did produce better at 5 on 5 as well, even adjusting for the increased TOI - 1.8 pts / 60 w NYR, 1.9 w Tampa, and 2.2 with Vancouver. However in Vancouver his shooting % was pretty crazy for an extended period of time...14.2% on average over 5 years with Vancouver after averaging 11.5% for both NYR and TB. Maybe this is the true "break out" if this continues with the NYR.

His PP TOI / game was even more extreme (1:35 / game NYR, 2:35 Tampa, 3:42 (!!) Vancouver). Unsurprisingly, Miller averaged a ton of PP points with Vancouver... 30 / season on average vs 13 in Tampa and 7 with the NYR. 25 extra PP points is a big part of how a player's production "breaks out".

Agree that Miller is the exception, not the rule. But if Chytil's usage changes (and he stays healthy, I 100% agree with you it;s the biggest IF) it is likely his production will as well. At 5v5 Chytil has averaged 2.0 pts / 60 his last 5 years, basically on par with what Miller did at the same age with NYR and Tampa. In the whopping sample size of 2 games, Vancouver has already played him almost 3 minutes more than he averaged with the NYR.

 

[bhamill]

This is missing some context. Miller's scoring numbers jumped with Vancouver happened because he got more ice time and he finally got significant PP time. Miller averaged an extra minute at 5v5 on Vancouver vs both the Rangers and Tampa. He did produce better at 5 on 5 as well, even adjusting for the increased TOI - 1.8 pts / 60 w NYR, 1.9 w Tampa, and 2.2 with Vancouver. However in Vancouver his shooting % was pretty crazy for an extended period of time...14.2% on average over 5 years with Vancouver after averaging 11.5% for both NYR and TB. Maybe this is the true "break out" if this continues with the NYR.

His PP TOI / game was even more extreme (1:35 / game NYR, 2:35 Tampa, 3:42 (!!) Vancouver). Unsurprisingly, Miller averaged a ton of PP points with Vancouver... 30 / season on average vs 13 in Tampa and 7 with the NYR. 25 extra PP points is a big part of how a player's production "breaks out".

Agree that Miller is the exception, not the rule. But if Chytil's usage changes (and he stays healthy, I 100% agree with you it;s the biggest IF) it is likely his production will as well. At 5v5 Chytil has averaged 2.0 pts / 60 his last 5 years, basically on par with what Miller did at the same age with NYR and Tampa. In the whopping sample size of 2 games, Vancouver has already played him almost 3 minutes more than he averaged with the NYR.

I wish him the BEST. Seems hard working and genuine. If he can stay healthy, become a regular 60 point guy, and improve his D and FOs, I'll be happy for him.