Player Discussion Joshua Roy

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schwang26

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By the sounds of it Kapanen is going to be top 6. Gorton emphasized how impressed they were with him.
I think Heineman might get consideration. That line needs a shooter. He’s got the size and shot and can play a rough game. Maybe he hasn’t shown enough yet but I really think they’ll look at line makeup rather than sticking all the best guys on a line. I like Kapanen and Roy, but they’re all very different players. Don’t hate me, but I think Armia could fit in there as well. I know he gets some hate, but I could see it based on his second half play last year.
 

Paddyjack

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I think Heineman might get consideration. That line needs a shooter. He’s got the size and shot and can play a rough game. Maybe he hasn’t shown enough yet but I really think they’ll look at line makeup rather than sticking all the best guys on a line. I like Kapanen and Roy, but they’re all very different players. Don’t hate me, but I think Armia could fit in there as well. I know he gets some hate, but I could see it based on his second half play last year.
The only thing good about Armia on that line would be his ability to control the puck on the board. Not useless, but with a guy like Dach you need someone who can shoot the puck.
 

ZUKI

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i think there is 3 options for the top 6 without Laine;

Anderson will probably gets the opportunity to play on the 2nd line. They will try to give him time and good line mates with the hope that he will find his game back.

Roy is a good fit because of his natural skills and his very good vision. I totally disagree with those who said that his camp was bad or that he wasn't implicated. He's a cerebral player, so his game is to analyse the play to predict what will happen instead of skating all directions. It isn't the first time that i see some fans from this forum that mix this kind of play style with lazy, un-implicated kind of players

Last option would be Kapanen because his good camp. ( he's also a good fit to play with Roy ) .

My ? concern is Newhook . Is he that good to pretend to be a top liner ? i am not sure. He seems to play a frisky game , trying to avoid any contact
 

Justin11

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Roy is NHL ready, has high hockey IQ. Even during off nights, he creates chances and that's what intelligent players do.
We will need goals and Roy stays for me.
 

Habby4Life

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What you mean is skated around more.

Roy created more than Heineman and Tuch and did more for the cycle. Kapanen has been great.
Roy has been invisible all camp. He got outplayed by all three of these guys. All three deserve a roster spot before Roy. Send Roy to the AHL.

To think people were preaching for him to be on the second line. Guy hasn’t even looked like a full time NHLer this camp.

Lazy camp, probably thinks his spot is a lock.
 
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Habano

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Meh, for me, he's very overhyped by our fanbase. Showed nothing so far in camp and preseason. Straight to the AHL.
 
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Jaynki

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The top 6 is congestionated.

Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield, Demidov, Dach, Laine.

Assuming we don't re-sign any of Armia, Dvorak and Evans.

That would open the bottom six to players like Newhook, Kapanen, Heineman, Roy, Anderson, Tuch, Beck, Hage, etc.

Problem i have with Roy is that when you are a role players, you have to bring something to the table. Like Newhook speed, or Kapanen being a RHC, or Tuch physicality.

Players like Roy, smallish, low paced winger, not physical, if they are only 40-50 points producer holds at best marginal value in the league. He's not bad tho, he has good IQ, is a menace offensively, good hands, can patiently wait and profit from opening, very good positioning. I just see nothing really special here.

It can't be overstated how big of a year it is for him, to establish himself as a worthy NHLer. I would bet his future is with another team tho.
 

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Roy has been invisible all camp. He got outplayed by all three of these guys. All three deserve a roster spot before Roy. Send Roy to the AHL.

To think people were preaching for him to be on the second line. Guy hasn’t even looked like a full time NHLer this camp.

Lazy camp, probably thinks his spot is a lock.
He had four scoring chances yesterday, including a breakaway. He had the second most scoring chances out of all our forwards after Dach.

You are the same as people who've been dismissing him, unable to discern what is lazy from what is just not a player that plays outside his limits. Your evaluations are misguided. You want him to skate around the ice like he's Paul Byron but he's not that. He's a player that slows down the play, puts pressure in the offensive zone by being positionally sound and that does the same defensively.

It's not too hard to see when you have an experienced eye, but for a more casual viewer I can see why it may be hard to see.


Good thing is, he's also got highlights.


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He also made some very good defensive plays on Sandersons goal that were all taken away by Mailloux and Primeau.


Your evaluation is clearly not rooted in reality but mostly emotional.

The top 6 is congestionated.

Suzuki, Slaf, Caufield, Demidov, Dach, Laine.

Assuming we don't re-sign any of Armia, Dvorak and Evans.

That would open the bottom six to players like Newhook, Kapanen, Heineman, Roy, Anderson, Tuch, Beck, Hage, etc.

Problem i have with Roy is that when you are a role players, you have to bring something to the table. Like Newhook speed, or Kapanen being a RHC, or Tuch physicality.

Players like Roy, smallish, low paced winger, not physical, if they are only 40-50 points producer holds at best marginal value in the league. He's not bad tho, he has good IQ, is a menace offensively, good hands, can patiently wait and profit from opening, very good positioning. I just see nothing really special here.

It can't be overstated how big of a year it is for him, to establish himself as a worthy NHLer. I would bet his future is with another team tho.
Lists a bunch of special traits and follows up with " I just see nothing really special"
 
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Habby4Life

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Hein made a nice rush to net drew a penalty, Tuch scored 1 second late, and Kap scored.

If you think Roy has a good camp or outplayed those guys than I don’t know what you are watching.
 

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