Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2

26Mats

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Hutson - ?????
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron
Harris

That's the D of the future, with the Habs needing a physical, two-=way, shutdown D to pair up with Hutson.

Hutson, at 5'10", would be the smallest d on the back end and Harris, as a third pairing D who sits at 5'11" would be the 2nd smallest D. There would be no two small Ds on the same pairing and styles would complement the pairings.

About as perfect a size/skill matchup as possible on the backend, with the possibility to mix and match according to game situations where we could see Mailloux and Hutson on the PP, foregoing some defensive acumen for offensive overload, or Guhle with Hutson's pairing partner for a shutdown pair when the game situation calls for it.

Up front, we should stop acting like MON is looking strictly to get small, skilled forwards at the draft. After all, HuGo just went against the grain the they selected Slafkovsky with their 1st OA pick in 2022.

Surely, unless we were to luck out on the Bedard Derby (he's 5'10", still), we'd likely pick one of Fantilli (6'2") or Carlsson (6'3") if we were to select in the top-3.

If MON ends up picking 7th or 8th OA and Michkov (5'10") had slipped to that rank, however, I wouldn't be surprised if the Habs did select the smaller natured winger since he is an exceptional talent and delaying his arrival in the NHL could provide both skill and an ELC contract at a time where HuGo would want to maximize their cap structure in order to keep an opening Cup window open for the longest possible time.

If it came down to adding Michkov, rather than a Fantilli or a Carlsson, we'd definitely need to reorganize the forward lineup.

That's why I believe that acquiring a power forward that can play C or W in Dubois becomes an important component to building a winning lineup.

With Dubois, Dach and Slafkovsky in the top-6, plus Suzuki who is strong and sturdy at 5'11" and 208 lbs, we would have a great mix of size and talent, even with Caufield and Michkov each on their own line.

Slafkovsky (6'3") - Dubois 6'2") - Michkov (5'10")
Caufield (5'7")
- Suzuki (5'11") - Dach (6'4")

Farrel (5'9") - Beck (5'11") - Roy (6'0")

might not be the biggest line, but Farrell's motor would compensate for his smaller stature. Beck, at 5'11" and over 190 lbs, is another strong and sturdy C like Suzuki and his hockey IQ makes him a true competitor that is hard to play against. Roy, at 6'0", 193 lbs, has already demonstrated his skill in retrieving and protecting the puck.

That third line will likely play like a Pitbull.

RHP (5'9")- Evans (6'0") - Heineman (6'0")

may also not be the biggest 4th line, but it comes with speed and forechecking physicality in Evans and Heineman, plus, even, RHP who, despite his smaller stature, is not afraid to initiate contact, even winning a fair percentage of struggles for the loose puck, but, most importantly, knowing what to do with the puck when he comes up with it.

In this forecast of a roster, Mesar gets lost in the tussle and, likely, either becomes a replacement for RHP on the fourth line, bringing a gust of speed to that trio, or trade bait.

he could also beat out Farrell as a 3rd line fixture and Farrell could replace RHP on the fourth line?


Slafkovsky (6'3") - Dubois 6'2") - Michkov (5'10")
Caufield (5'7")
- Suzuki (5'11") - Dach (6'4")
Roy (6'0") - Beck (5'11") - Mesar (5'9")
Farrel (5'9")
- Evans (6'0") - Heineman (6'0")

There'd be a decent mix of size and skill in the top-6, lines that get the most TOI to begin with and any inclination for the third line would combine some puck retrieval skill, some shutdown skill and some speed or bite in the smaller player.

The fourth line, whichever form it ends up taking, will be a strong forechecking, energy line with defensive acumen and complementary offensive upside.

I like this balanced forward lineup, especially with the imposing size that still comes with skill on the backend, where Guhle, Xhekaj and Mailloux, plus whomever we acquire to play with Hutson will be able to bring a physical presence with some bite to the ice. Barron, for his part, will hold his own, without being necessarily intimidating, because of his style of play.

Hutson (5'10") - Grans, as an example (6'4")
Guhle (6'2") - Mailloux (6'3")
Xhekaj ( 6'4") - Barron (6'2")
Harris (5'11")

Plus, we forget, by the time Hutson hits the ice in Montreal, he could be over 6-Foot tall!?

Because I agree with your depth chart, and Anderson and Savard aren't on it, I'd take 1st round picks for them, if offered.

Matheson may play his way into the long term depth chart. Vut if he's not in the plans, I'd take a 1st for him also.
 
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JianYang

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I never said, we should draft player for his size lol. I said having 4 or 6 smurf in the same position(forward) is a little bit to much. I has suggesting, we trade one or 2 small forward for another player ( Goalie? P.K specialist, Powerplay specialist...., Power forward)...

You need to see what you have in the pipeline first. Which ones will rise, and who becomes expendable? There's no rush to round out the roster..... The teams is not at that part of the competitive cycle yet. The more assets that can be accumulated, the more flexibility for Hughes to shape the roster to address whatever issues that arise.
 

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You need to see what you have in the pipeline first. Which ones will rise, and who becomes expendable? There's no rush to round out the roster..... The teams is not at that part of the competitive cycle yet. The more assets that can be accumulated, the more flexibility for Hughes to shape the roster to address whatever issues that arise.
I agree, and more.

The goal is to ALWAYS have lots of prospects in the pipeliune, not just "at this stage of the rebuild" - if the goal is to build a team that can potentially compete every year.
 

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There's no point in fretting about the size of the roster, or moving away from drafting certain types of players until players have established themselves.

The only small forward established right now is Caufield. Everyone else, including RHP (just look at Pitlicks production with us last year) are potential NHLers and not established.

Imagine you trade Mesar cause you have Farrell etc coming and then they all bust except Mesar. It would be a stupid move.
 

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There's no point in fretting about the size of the roster, or moving away from drafting certain types of players until players have established themselves.

The only small forward established right now is Caufield. Everyone else, including RHP (just look at Pitlicks production with us last year) are potential NHLers and not established.

Imagine you trade Mesar cause you have Farrell etc coming and then they all bust except Mesar. It would be a stupid move.
Yes, of course, even if Mesar has been underwhelming this year, we should not dump him now!
 

Frank Drebin

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Sherbrooke scores 10 goals and Roy is held scoreless. Didn't expect that
Hah. I seem to remember when we scored 10vs the avs a few years back someone notable was scoreless, paciotetty?

Whoops nope he had 4 goals that game.

Weber. That's who it was.
 

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Because I agree with your depth chart, and Anderson and Savard aren't on it, I'd take 1st round picks for them, if offered.

Matheson may play his way into the long term depth chart. Vut if he's not in the plans, I'd take a 1st for him also.
I'd take a first, if we can get it, for any player not in the long term plans, but, if you can get a 1st for Matheson now, you can also get a 1st for him after a full season next year, or two full seasons (trade deadline in that second season).

There are worst things that you can do aside from staggering your extra 1st round picks and using a player like Matheson to help develop your other young Ds, including Mailloux, by eating up tougher minutes and letting Guhle play with Mailloux on a 2nd pairing for a year.
 

26Mats

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I'd take a first, if we can get it, for any player not in the long term plans, but, if you can get a 1st for Matheson now, you can also get a 1st for him after a full season next year, or two full seasons (trade deadline in that second season).

There are worst things that you can do aside from staggering your extra 1st round picks and using a player like Matheson to help develop your other young Ds, including Mailloux, by eating up tougher minutes and letting Guhle play with Mailloux on a 2nd pairing for a year.

It's a tough balance - losing to get a top pick and developing the youth.

I'd like to get a top pick this year and then in the offseason sign vets to surround the youth.
 

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Can Roy be compared to Mercer? I feel like Roy played like Mercer at the world's.

Mercer was/is a better skater and more dynamic, no ? He has more pace to his game than Roy. Still like Roy's potential and his skating is progressing well but still need work to not be an hindrance in the NHL. At least he has the IQ and position soundness now to be effective like a Mark Stone-lite.
 
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Matthew McConaughay

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Mercer was/is a better skater and more dynamic, no ? He has more pace to his game than Roy. Still like Roy's potential and his skating is progressing well but still need work to not be an hindrance in the NHL. At least he has the IQ and position soundness now to be effective like a Mark Stone-lite.
Roy is better than Mercer, Roy accomplished more than Mercer, Roy hockey IQ is off the chart, not Mercer.
 

Kudo Shinichi

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Well, he won 2 gold medals, and was a factor in those gold medal wins, how many gold medal Mercer has ? he also won the league's scoring title.

Mercer scoring 42 pts in the nhl in his d+2 season is more impressive than Roy winning gold and putting up big numbers in juniors.
Mercer is also on pace for 61 pts this season, which is the kind of production we're hoping to get out of Roy in the nhl.
 

Skip Bayless

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Yes, he has surpassed the league he is playing in now. It is time for him to graduate. I look forward to seeing him the AHL next year.

One more year

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One more year

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NO ! He has proven that he doesn't need more time at Junior level. If they make the mistake to send him down there again, he will lose his focus badly and will be lost. Time in 2023-24 to reach some pro level hockey.

And by the way, Habs should had taken a chance with Luneau (Anaheim) and Dumais (CLB). They are amazing prospects. Melanson drafted by Seattle was also a good gamble.
 
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NO ! He has proven that he doesn't need more time at Junior level. If they make the mistake to send him down there again, he will lose his focus badly and will be lost. Time in 2023-24 to reach some pro level hockey.

And by the way, Habs should had taken a chance with Luneau (Anaheim) and Dumais (CLB). They are amazing prospects. Melanson drafted by Seattle was also a good gamble.
i never take the time to see a highlights videos of Roy, but it happens frequently that someone twits one of his goal or play. It makes me understand why Bedard was so impressed by him. The guy has an elite vision and he does a lot of plays you have never seen from a junior player.
 
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