DAChampion
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I hope he plays a full season in the AHL next year.
Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2
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Mrb1p
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Maybe even two. Patience with him is gonna pay out.
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He is a typical tools and IQ player, hes dominated his whole life on talent alone, now hes really learning the game and evolving his play. Hes a crazy smart player and he needs to use his size to protect pucks and cycle, hes also going to need to get stronger and the usual pro game evolution.
Hes a late round pick afterall, its a normal time-frame for him.
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it's awesome to hear especially because some of the scouting reports I was hearing seemed to preclude this type of play from him i.e. High skill and IQ but lacking compete. The fact he's expanding his game to fit better with the team is what you want to hear.
I was getting a bit worried from what I was hearing but the other part of me was wondering if he was maybe being subject to some 'overshooting' kind of like Suze was. Still too early but the positives I'm hearing of late are reassuring. Him, Farrell, Beck and Mesar could really fill some spots in our top 9.
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Fifth-rounder Joshua Roy emerges as Canada's 'jack of all trades' Montreal Canadiens | TSN
Roy, who went 155th overall to the Montreal Canadiens, produced eight points in seven games for Team Canada at the summer World Juniors in Edmonton en route to a gold medal. The Sherbrooke Phoenix winger scored in the semifinals and the gold-medal game.
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His skating improved the previous year, but his compete level has really improved both years since drafted.
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A player with his skillset and IQ will have an NHL career. I still think the Tyler Toffoli comparison is pretty accurate.
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I love how he’s adding ‘compete’ to the identity of his game. Combined with his deadly offensive skillset that could be strong recipe for long-term success.
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for me it's the mix of IQ and shot that is so exciting if he's willing to continue to improve, add mass, strength, speed, should go a long way to help the skating. I really think it's more his style of play then major skating issues.
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People associate his lack of skating with a lack of work ethic. He was a bit of a shit skater (everything being relative) - I don’t know if it’s improved.
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I thought the above were your observations but instead of that, a TSN write-up makes the same points.
Must be a coincidence.
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i don't think he was a shit skater last year, I think more mix up his style of play as he likes to slow things down, vs being a shit skater.
The previous season, he was in a bad shape . He has lost 25 pounds of fat during the summer . I suppose that his condition was the main problem of his skating
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It's his first couple of steps for me. If he can improve getting off the blocks, he should get to more pucks.
That sounds like something the development team will help him with in the summer
Again, remember where Suzuki was at the exact same age as Roy is now. The knock on Suzuki back then was that he was not fast and dynamic enough, and that he had a tendency to slow the game down when he had the puck. After his WJC at 19.5 years old, many were decrying the trade with Vegas and said Bergevin made a big mistake. Then, when Suzuki bloomed into a really good young player, the same people said Bergevin was lucky and wanted Cody Glass instead.
I don't want to start another Bergevin discussion here. My point is that Suzuki at the same stage of his junior career was seen as a disapointment by many and if you look at Roy's path in comparison with Suzuki, the only big difference is their draft year at 17 yo year. At 16 they had similar stats, at 17 Suzuki was much better, then at 18 and 19 Roy and Suzuki were dominant players with their junior teams, and because of covid pushing the WJC to August, Roy played at the champinonship at just 19, and will play second time at 19.5, and he should have no problems matching Suzuki's output of 3 assists in 5 games. The unknown about Roy is to know if he will be able to take a big step up moving forward like Suzuki did in the OHL playoffs and then going directly to the NHL at 20.
I don't want to start another Bergevin discussion here. My point is that Suzuki at the same stage of his junior career was seen as a disapointment by many and if you look at Roy's path in comparison with Suzuki, the only big difference is their draft year at 17 yo year. At 16 they had similar stats, at 17 Suzuki was much better, then at 18 and 19 Roy and Suzuki were dominant players with their junior teams, and because of covid pushing the WJC to August, Roy played at the champinonship at just 19, and will play second time at 19.5, and he should have no problems matching Suzuki's output of 3 assists in 5 games. The unknown about Roy is to know if he will be able to take a big step up moving forward like Suzuki did in the OHL playoffs and then going directly to the NHL at 20.
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There are very few posters who are qualified to give meaningful opinions on young players. It simply takes a lot of time that most people don't have to watch prospects over a representative number of games, and further, it takes a modest amount of humility that many don't have to recognize that one has not put in the effort.
I know that you said that you didn't want to start another Bergevin debate, but to a large extent I think that's what that is. A lot of people project their general assessments of the managing and scouting staff onto young players.
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This was the same "issue" with Suzuki. I expect Roy to look much better in camp next year.
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