Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2

[McGuires Corndog]

From everything i have seen of Joshua Roy, including his play in the WJHC, i am not convinced his game will translate to a top-6 role in the NHL. His lack of speed and drive concern me. He generally floats and relies solely on his teammates to create plays and open up ice for him.

I am curious what others think. I see him having a long way to go to improve his game in all facets (other than his shot). He is a smart player though and goes to the quiet areas where a teammate can find him, ala Tyler Toffoli.

Hopefully he works on driving play this season and on his speed/strength.

I agree with the Toffoli comparison and it’s one I’ve made as well. If his skating can improve, I think he could have a similar impact/career which would be an amazing steal for a 5th rounder.

No one should be expecting Cole Caufield out of Roy

 

[BenchBrawl]

Roy will bury those scoring chances. I'd love to see him become a sort of Dany Heatley; a third wheel on a dominant offensive line, whose positioning instincts, shots and hands in close range are deadly.

Someone who can maximize his potential despite not being a great skater.

 

[HuGort]

From everything i have seen of Joshua Roy, including his play in the WJHC, i am not convinced his game will translate to a top-6 role in the NHL. His lack of speed and drive concern me. He generally floats and relies solely on his teammates to create plays and open up ice for him.

I am curious what others think. I see him having a long way to go to improve his game in all facets (other than his shot). He is a smart player though and goes to the quiet areas where a teammate can find him, ala Tyler Toffoli.

Hopefully he works on driving play this season and on his speed/strength.

Probably why he slid in draft

 

[WinterLion]

From everything i have seen of Joshua Roy, including his play in the WJHC, i am not convinced his game will translate to a top-6 role in the NHL. His lack of speed and drive concern me. He generally floats and relies solely on his teammates to create plays and open up ice for him.

I am curious what others think. I see him having a long way to go to improve his game in all facets (other than his shot). He is a smart player though and goes to the quiet areas where a teammate can find him, ala Tyler Toffoli.

Hopefully he works on driving play this season and on his speed/strength.

I like his work along the boards in both ends. He is very cerebral, but I think the speed/lack of jam stuff gets overblown here because of how he plays. He plays sound positional hockey and waits for his opportunities and is actually really good at getting to the front of the net. To me the big problem is that he isn't very good at leading the rush and carrying the puck through the neutral zone. If he can work on that and his foot speed then I think he will make the NHL... honestly I kinda hope he gets traded to a different market because fans in MTL will eat him alive because he doesn't play like a buzzsaw... and he is a Quebecer.

 

[MasterD]

Suzuki also doesn't play like a buzzsaw and isn't a great skater (or I should say doesn't really use that skill), but picks his plays with a lot more smarts and doesn't turnover the puck as much.

I'll be the first to admit I haven't seen a lot of Roy, but what I saw on Monday was pretty disappointing. I remember two distincts plays at the offensive blue line in zone entry where he just basically gave the puck away on weak, stupid plays.

I hope it was just a bad game.

 

[Habs4Life]

still needs a lot of work

 

[Rob Sense]

From everything i have seen of Joshua Roy, including his play in the WJHC, i am not convinced his game will translate to a top-6 role in the NHL. His lack of speed and drive concern me. He generally floats and relies solely on his teammates to create plays and open up ice for him.

I am curious what others think. I see him having a long way to go to improve his game in all facets (other than his shot). He is a smart player though and goes to the quiet areas where a teammate can find him, ala Tyler Toffoli.

Hopefully he works on driving play this season and on his speed/strength.

He is better than Jordan Dumais who a lot of posters here wanted us to pick!

 

[badfish]

I think it's been mentioned before but it's been reported he broke his finger. The strongest physical elements of his game all start with his hands (shooting, passing, dekeing) so I can understand if his hands bothering him why he isn't looking great.

It's not as if he can compensate for a hand injury by skating harder - that's not his skillset.

For what it's worth I felt in the world junior his game showed well on the power play and when in-zone play was going on. Didn't seem like generating off the rush against tougher competition is a strong point. His line had a tough time maintaining o-zone possession last game.

 

[26Mats]

I think it's been mentioned before but it's been reported he broke his finger. The strongest physical elements of his game all start with his hands (shooting, passing, dekeing) so I can understand if his hands bothering him why he isn't looking great.

It's not as if he can compensate for a hand injury by skating harder - that's not his skillset.

For what it's worth I felt in the world junior his game showed well on the power play and when in-zone play was going on. Didn't seem like generating off the rush against tougher competition is a strong point. His line had a tough time maintaining o-zone possession last game.

We've seen a lot of players who light it up in Junior not be able to be top 6 in the NHL. Hopefully our development team cam work with him on his deficiencies over the next 4 years. There's a lot of time. It seems like it mainly comes down to his skating stride. He has the offensive IQ.

 

[Mrb1p]

I like his work along the boards in both ends. He is very cerebral, but I think the speed/lack of jam stuff gets overblown here because of how he plays. He plays sound positional hockey and waits for his opportunities and is actually really good at getting to the front of the net. To me the big problem is that he isn't very good at leading the rush and carrying the puck through the neutral zone. If he can work on that and his foot speed then I think he will make the NHL... honestly I kinda hope he gets traded to a different market because fans in MTL will eat him alive because he doesn't play like a buzzsaw... and he is a Quebecer.

Sound analysis. I agree.

 

[Nicko999]

I am afraid this will be a lost year for Roy. Just too good for the Q. Nothing to learn there.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I am afraid this will be a lost year for Roy. Just too good for the Q. Nothing to learn there.

He can take the opportunity to play with more pace and drive the play as opposed to being more of an opportunist.

 

[Ghetto Sangria]

I am afraid this will be a lost year for Roy. Just too good for the Q. Nothing to learn there.

same was said of Suzuki’s last junior year. Did wonders for him in the end. Let’s see where this season takes Roy

 

[Addik04]

I am afraid this will be a lost year for Roy. Just too good for the Q. Nothing to learn there.

A lost year?

Why not take the opportunity to be the best player all around the league? Be better defensively, play with more pace? Go back to the World Juniors and be an impact player? Be an impact player every shift? Learn how to deal with that kind of pressure in a tight game? The list goes on and on.

 

[Tim Wallach]

A lost year?

Why not take the opportunity to be the best player all around the league? Be better defensively, play with more pace? Go back to the World Juniors and be an impact player? Be an impact player every shift? Learn how to deal with that kind of pressure in a tight game? The list goes on and on.

Bingo.

I have never understood the “nothing left to learn in junior” opinion. There is always something left to learn. It’s major junior, not kids’ hockey. Unless you’re a perfect player, you always have more to work on.

 

[Wats]

I am afraid this will be a lost year for Roy. Just too good for the Q. Nothing to learn there.

Tell that to all the NHLers that has great draft+1 and draft+2 in junior. What better time to improve his skating/balance/etc that kept him from making the NHL on a bad team. If he coasts the year saying nothing to learn, the likelihood is he will never be an NHLer.

 

[Nicko999]

same was said of Suzuki’s last junior year. Did wonders for him in the end. Let’s see where this season takes Roy

Honestly, Suzuki could have been brought up a year earlier and would have been just fine.

A lost year?

Why not take the opportunity to be the best player all around the league? Be better defensively, play with more pace? Go back to the World Juniors and be an impact player? Be an impact player every shift? Learn how to deal with that kind of pressure in a tight game? The list goes on and on.

Sure but it's hard to do when you are producing at 2PPG or above. Means your competition is not good enough.

Bingo.

I have never understood the “nothing left to learn in junior” opinion. There is always something left to learn. It’s major junior, not kids’ hockey. Unless you’re a perfect player, you always have more to work on.

See above. When you producing at a pace that is above 2PPG, it's a matter of the competition not being good enough for you.
In those cases, the better competition from the better league would be more beneficial to a young player.

 

[Adriatic]

Roy will bury those scoring chances. I'd love to see him become a sort of Dany Heatley; a third wheel on a dominant offensive line, whose positioning instincts, shots and hands in close range are deadly.

Someone who can maximize his potential despite not being a great skater.

Lolol Dany Heatley. Maybe set your sights a little lower so you're not too disappointed.

 

[Dutronc]

Lolol Dany Heatley. Maybe set your sights a little lower so you're not too disappointed.

Mr all star himself

 

[JianYang]

I would add Beauchemin too.

Mathieu garon was a top prospect as well at the time.

If I'm mistaken, ribs, Ryder and Ribeiro actually played on the same line at the world Jr's at one point? Garon was also Canada's goalie.

 

[Wats]

Honestly, Suzuki could have been brought up a year earlier and would have been just fine.

This is easy to say but it's baseless. There's no way Vegas trades a draft+2 Suzuki, that playoffs he had really took his game to another level.

 

[dcyhabs]

I like his work along the boards in both ends. He is very cerebral, but I think the speed/lack of jam stuff gets overblown here because of how he plays. He plays sound positional hockey and waits for his opportunities and is actually really good at getting to the front of the net. To me the big problem is that he isn't very good at leading the rush and carrying the puck through the neutral zone. If he can work on that and his foot speed then I think he will make the NHL... honestly I kinda hope he gets traded to a different market because fans in MTL will eat him alive because he doesn't play like a buzzsaw... and he is a Quebecer.

Roy has improved previous weaknesses, his shot, his passing, so that they are strengths. He is working on his skating. I’m not penciling him in on a top line next year but I wouldn’t bet against him longer term. He’s shown he can get better.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I loved what I saw from Roy in pre-season. Looking forward to his last Q season. I think he's a good prospect.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Honestly, Suzuki could have been brought up a year earlier and would have been just fine.


Sure but it's hard to do when you are producing at 2PPG or above. Means your competition is not good enough.


See above. When you producing at a pace that is above 2PPG, it's a matter of the competition not being good enough for you.
In those cases, the better competition from the better league would be more beneficial to a young player.

Oh my! Roy's all around game has a lot of areas that can be improved. If he's so good, maybe he can prioritize team success as well.

 

[26Mats]

Honestly, Suzuki could have been brought up a year earlier and would have been just fine.


Sure but it's hard to do when you are producing at 2PPG or above. Means your competition is not good enough.


See above. When you producing at a pace that is above 2PPG, it's a matter of the competition not being good enough for you.
In those cases, the better competition from the better league would be more beneficial to a young player.

Suzuki's last year in junior was a great experience for him.

If Mesar has 1 or 2 years in Junior like Suzuki's last 1 or 2 years, well we couldn't ask for anything more. That's not something to worry about.