Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2

[Junohockeyfan]

If Roy improves his speed significantly he will become a bonafide blue-chip prospect. He does need work.

 

[jfm133]

Suzuki needed work at 18, all prospects need work at 18.

Reading the other recent comments it is as if all the teams in the Q decided to allow Roy to score 51 goals this year and get 119 points. They did him a favor.

 

[cave troll]

MSL had nothing to do with Caufield's improved speed.

He put in the work between his D+1 and D+2 season at Wisconsin that lead to a Hobey Baker and his initial success in Montreal.

Do you actually believe a head coach can come in and instantly improve a player's skating....????

Roy is not nearly as quick as Caufield was even before his improvement so there is considerable work to be done on that front this summer.

Lol.
Of course head coaches don't work on individual physical improvement of players.
But you're not gonna end up in MSL roster if you float. I think this is absolutely clear.
Something that DD didn't give a damn about.
Caufield's skating and speed improved drastically in this year. I'm not saying he wasn't fast when he joined but in last few months CC's acceletarion and speed skyrocketed.
Roy has a lot of work ahead of him, but if there is some coach who can help him by giving him advices how to improve himself, that's MSL. We all know how Marty worked so damned hard to improve himslef as a player, especially in department Roy needs.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Lol.
Of course head coaches don't work on individual physical improvement of players.
But you're not gonna end up in MSL roster if you float. I think this is absolutely clear.
Something that DD didn't give a damn about.
Caufield's skating and speed improved drastically in this year. I'm not saying he wasn't fast when he joined but in last few months CC's acceletarion and speed skyrocketed.
Roy has a lot of work ahead of him, but if there is some coach who can help him by giving him advices how to improve himself, that's MSL. We all know how Marty worked so damned hard to improve himslef as a player, especially in department Roy needs.

His acceleration and speed are exactly what they were at the start of the season, I don't know what else to tell you. Players never make in season improvements in these areas past the mid to mid/late teens where puberty and growth spurts can have unexpected effects both positive and negative,

These gains are due solely to off season work. Try and find a single quote where Caufield or anyone associated with him verifies your assertion.....you won't find it because it didn't happen.

Players train to add strength and explosion in the off season and train for maintenance in the regular season.

 

[Wateredgarden]

Roy has nhl speed.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

I see Roy carving himself a career a la Michael Ryder.

 

[Naslundforever]

His acceleration and speed are exactly what they were at the start of the season, I don't know what else to tell you. Players never make in season improvements in these areas past the mid to mid/late teens where puberty and growth spurts can have unexpected effects both positive and negative,

These gains are due solely to off season work. Try and find a single quote where Caufield or anyone associated with him verifies your assertion.....you won't find it because it didn't happen.

Players train to add strength and explosion in the off season and train for maintenance in the regular season.

I think he was taking more opportunistic jumps (better reads?) to break free as the season went. First quick step or two surprized more D. More “quick“ than fast. Coaching, confidence, experience probably… That IQ with another summer of squats and whatever they do as you say, I expect a big season.

 

[Gael]

I see Roy carving himself a career a la Michael Ryder.

I think he's gonna be better

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I think he was taking more opportunistic jumps (better reads?) to break free as the season went. First quick step or two surprized more D. More “quick“ than fast. Coaching, confidence, experience probably… That IQ with another summer of squats and whatever they do as you say, I expect a big season.

Nah, I hear ridiculous comments like that all the time on these boards. He literally believes MSL made him a better skater....This is the only perspective that he could have reasonably been presenting given the comparison to Roy

 

[Tyson]

Roy has nhl speed.

Evidently his skating really improved from last year to this year.
He has worked really hard on his game. Only 18 which is insane to me.
66 games- 119 points
4 playoff games- 12 points

131 points in 70 games.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Evidently his skating really improved from last year to this year.
He has worked really hard on his game. Only 18 which is insane to me.
66 games- 119 points
4 playoff games- 12 points

131 points in 70 games.

That's why I don't see why they would send him back to the Q. What is left for him to learn there ? Sure it "worked" for Suzuki (we don't have the counterfactual though) but what would he have done in a contending VGK ?

I would send him to the AHL but he is not eligible (never got that rule). Canada could use an NCAA equivalent in my opinion.

However, thing of beauty : for once in the MTL history, there is 0 pressure to perform next year. He could easily slot on a 3rd line, PP2. Not my preferred solution but a possibility.

 

[26Mats]

That's why I don't see why they would send him back to the Q. What is left for him to learn there ? Sure it "worked" for Suzuki (we don't have the counterfactual though) but what would he have done in a contending VGK ?

I would send him to the AHL but he is not eligible (never got that rule). Canada could use an NCAA equivalent in my opinion.

However, thing of beauty : for once in the MTL history, there is 0 pressure to perform next year. He could easily slot on a 3rd line, PP2. Not my preferred solution but a possibility.

I think he can still learn something in the Q. You can learn the skills of dominating on the ice by being in a league where you're dominating on the ice.

Mario Lemieux obliterated the league and then went back and obliterated it even more. Lemieux's last year he was 18. Roy will be 19 next year. So he'd only be 1 year older than Mario for his last year.

Other options, that I've never heard being used, are moving to the OHL or Europe. All might have their pluses and minuses.

 

[montreal]

That's why I don't see why they would send him back to the Q. What is left for him to learn there ? Sure it "worked" for Suzuki (we don't have the counterfactual though) but what would he have done in a contending VGK ?

I would send him to the AHL but he is not eligible (never got that rule). Canada could use an NCAA equivalent in my opinion.

However, thing of beauty : for once in the MTL history, there is 0 pressure to perform next year. He could easily slot on a 3rd line, PP2. Not my preferred solution but a possibility.

he only played half a season last year, he needs to find a way to play a more up tempo game, improve his strength, add some mass. I would like to see him in the SHL or NLA but he still has a number of things he can work on in the Q and then head to Laval at the end of next season.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

I look forward to his game today. I will try to watch it.

From highlights (which are certainly not enough to make a strong opinion), he looks deadly offensively both with his shot and playmaking.

I'm trying to not be on the hype train too much, but he is making it harder by the day.

 

[le_sean]

I look forward to his game today. I will try to watch it.

From highlights (which are certainly not enough to make a strong opinion), he looks deadly offensively both with his shot and playmaking.

I'm trying to not be on the hype train too much, but he is making it harder by the day.

It’s funny because the optics make us wary of getting too hyped up. Had he been a 2nd rounder, we’d be really excited and pencilling him as part of the core. But being a 5th rounder we are all kind of taking a step back and simply hoping the improbable is possible.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It’s funny because the optics make us wary of getting too hyped up. Had he been a 2nd rounder, we’d be really excited and pencilling him as part of the core. But being a 5th rounder we are all kind of taking a step back and simply hoping the improbable is possible.

People can boom me later.. but I have utmost confidence that Roy, Farrell, and Ylonen are NHLers up front. If Kidney shows improvement in his physical abilities, he will be there too.

Wright, Suzuki, Caufield, Ylonen, Roy, Farrell, Kidney, Evans is all a good start up front.
Guhle, Romanov, Barron, and Harris is a good start on the back end.

Only adding more potential names to that list these next two drafts.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

People can boom me later.. but I have utmost confidence that Roy, Farrell, and Ylonen are NHLers up front. If Kidney shows improvement in his physical abilities, he will be there too.

Wright, Suzuki, Caufield, Ylonen, Roy, Farrell, Kidney, Evans is all a good start up front.
Guhle, Romanov, Barron, and Harris is a good start on the back end.

Only adding more potential names to that list these next two drafts.

And Poehling even if you hate him. He’s a middle sixer for us at worst. Also I’d include Dvorak as well for now.

 

[WeThreeKings]

And Poehling even if you hate him. He’s a middle sixer for us at worst. Also I’d include Dvorak as well for now.

I don't hate Poehling at this point, he is what he is.. I don't think he's in the long term plans for the team, maybe fourth line winger.

 

[Vachon23]

And Poehling even if you hate him. He’s a middle sixer for us at worst. Also I’d include Dvorak as well for now.

I would't be surprise if Poehling is traded this summer

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I don't hate Poehling at this point, he is what he is.. I don't think he's in the long term plans for the team, maybe fourth line winger.

I think he absolutely is in the long term plans. HuGo have stated they want guys with size and speed and all around games. Look at the guys they’ve acquired. Poehling fits the bill perfectly. I know he’s had some ups and downs and some injuries that have stalled things, but this year was a good step for him as he finally established himself as an NHLer. Give him a good healthy offseason for once and he’ll have a breakout next year, no doubt in my mind. Wouldn’t mind seeing him eventually with Caufield and Suzuki as his skill set fits perfectly as a guy with size and speed, two way play, playmaking and an ability to tip pucks and go to the net.

 

[1909]

People can boom me later.. but I have utmost confidence that Roy, Farrell, and Ylonen are NHLers up front. If Kidney shows improvement in his physical abilities, he will be there too.

Wright, Suzuki, Caufield, Ylonen, Roy, Farrell, Kidney, Evans is all a good start up front.
Guhle, Romanov, Barron, and Harris is a good start on the back end.

Only adding more potential names to that list these next two drafts.

Damn small forwards group.

I would't be surprise if Poehling is traded this summer

For a big, young lw with potential. Crouse or Comtois.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Damn small forwards group.


For a big, young lw with potential. Crouse or Comtois.

Only Caufield and Farrell are "small" and there's nothing preventing from surrounding them with size.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

If Roy improves his speed significantly he will become a bonafide blue-chip prospect. He does need work.

Skating class for everybody this summer!

I truly wish we had a team of specialist dedicated to improve and help all our players to improve their skating and agility.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Skating class for everybody this summer!

I truly wish we had a team of specialist dedicated to improve and help all our players to improve their skating and agility.

Adam Nichols speciality is skating. So I'm sure we will add more.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I don't hate Poehling at this point, he is what he is.. I don't think he's in the long term plans for the team, maybe fourth line winger.

I think he is the odd man out.
I prefer Evans over Poehling.