dackelljuneaubulis02
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I can see him being better than Tofu. Perry’s not a bad comparison stylistically. Not as hard nosed but there’s similarities.
Prospect Info: Joshua Roy Part 2
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I don’t see Corey Perry in him. Perry was a really physical player.
I think stylistically he’s probably a more defensively conscious Luc Robitaille. I don’t think he’ll score as much as Luc did (Robitaille’s numbers were awesome in his prime) but he could be Robitaille lite on the offense side.
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dackelljuneaubulis02
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Oh yeah like I said not the hard nosed edge stuff. But the smarts, puck protection, anticipation etc.
He’s a better skater than Toffoli that’s for sure. Roy is smart, always finds open spaces on the ice and he’s pretty good finding passing lanes. Good poise with the puck and always around the net.
He’s a silent killer. Toffoli is a good comparison stylistically.
I don’t see anything related Perry. Sure, he can win some battles, but Perry is a puck hound. Just way too good at winning puck battles and gaining time to open space for his teammates. Smart, crafty and extremely elusive at his prime. His physical play, nastiness and ability to play on the edge is vital to what he is.
It doesn’t take anything away from Roy, kid has top 6 potential and might be one of the only forward in our prospect pool to actually make it offensively.
He’s a silent killer. Toffoli is a good comparison stylistically.
I don’t see anything related Perry. Sure, he can win some battles, but Perry is a puck hound. Just way too good at winning puck battles and gaining time to open space for his teammates. Smart, crafty and extremely elusive at his prime. His physical play, nastiness and ability to play on the edge is vital to what he is.
It doesn’t take anything away from Roy, kid has top 6 potential and might be one of the only forward in our prospect pool to actually make it offensively.
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Yeah, awesome is an understatement. Robitaille retired as the highest scoring LW in history.
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NHL scoring summed from 1987-88 to 1992-93
From 88 to 93, Robitaille was behind only Mario, Gretz and Yzerman. Pretty good company to be in.
So no, I don't think Roy will be that good.
I don't want to put that kind of crazy expectation on him. Stylistically they seem similar to me though.
He certainly could be a top six player. Maybe even a first liner. Hopefully he adjusts well to the AHL. Let's wait and see. This season should tell us a lot.
| Player | S/C | Pos | GP | G | A | P | +/- | PIM | P/GP | EVG | EVP | PPG | PPP | SHG | SHP | OTG | GWG | S | S% | TOI/GP | FOW% |
| Mario Lemieux | R | C | 362 | 332 | 494 | 826 | 136 | 432 | 2.28 | 194 | 448 | 101 | 323 | 37 | 55 | 3 | 36 | 1,545 | 21.5 | -- | -- |
| Wayne Gretzky | L | C | 412 | 222 | 586 | 808 | 86 | 148 | 1.96 | 154 | 491 | 50 | 279 | 18 | 38 | 1 | 20 | 1,318 | 16.8 | -- | -- |
| Steve Yzerman | R | C | 466 | 331 | 401 | 732 | 98 | 326 | 1.57 | 217 | 462 | 77 | 218 | 37 | 52 | 3 | 40 | 1,890 | 17.5 | -- | -- |
| Luc Robitaille | L | L | 478 | 303 | 330 | 633 | 46 | 448 | 1.32 | 193 | 414 | 108 | 214 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 36 | 1,401 | 21.6 | -- | -- |
| Pat LaFontaine | R | C | 444 | 286 | 325 | 611 | 6 | 319 | 1.38 | 181 | 355 | 99 | 250 | 6 | 6 | 3 | 36 | 1,550 | 18.5 | -- | -- |
| Brett Hull | R | R | 454 | 355 | 247 | 602 | -10 | 184 | 1.33 | 223 | 352 | 127 | 245 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 43 | 2,088 | 17 | -- | -- |
| Mark Messier | L | C | 435 | 187 | 409 | 596 | 75 | 494 | 1.37 | 112 | 353 | 53 | 198 | 22 | 45 | 3 | 24 | 1,093 | 17.1 | -- | -- |
| Adam Oates | R | C | 437 | 143 | 447 | 590 | 45 | 147 | 1.35 | 95 | 371 | 44 | 211 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 25 | 990 | 14.4 | -- | -- |
| Dale Hawerchuk | L | C | 472 | 181 | 400 | 581 | -87 | 268 | 1.23 | 100 | 299 | 75 | 272 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 17 | 1,437 | 12.6 | -- | -- |
| Doug Gilmour | L | C | 461 | 164 | 393 | 557 | 136 | 479 | 1.21 | 86 | 324 | 69 | 211 | 9 | 22 | 0 | 23 | 990 | 16.6 | -- | -- |
From 88 to 93, Robitaille was behind only Mario, Gretz and Yzerman. Pretty good company to be in.
So no, I don't think Roy will be that good.
I don't want to put that kind of crazy expectation on him. Stylistically they seem similar to me though. He certainly could be a top six player. Maybe even a first liner. Hopefully he adjusts well to the AHL. Let's wait and see. This season should tell us a lot.
Corey Perry's eel like slipperiness coupled with his nasty temperment and ability to drive Dmen nuts are not Joshua Roy's game like at all. The only thing even remotely similar is an ability to win pucks along the wall. Just my take.
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I gotta be honest and not trying to be an ass but the Perry comparison is outrageous. I don’t see it in any way.. Even if the main part of the comparison was was board play, then that was even different. Perry found his success from hard nosed dirty work on the boards, Roys success is from having the puck on his stick and slowing the game down and knowing how to manipulate the guy he’s battling against with his smarts and puck skill. So barely comparable other than they both excel there.
Wild comparison in my opinion. Need some back up reasons on this one, otherwise we’re just chucking names out there hoping they land
I see a lot of people here talking about Perry (I certainly was one). For me I brought him up simply because of his skating to elude to the success players can have have in the Habs system or elsewhere if offset my smarts and balance. There is a multitude of players that show this. Toffoli, Tanguay (I like this comparison) Perry, Ryder. Elsewhere we have Stone, Huberdeau. Tons of players that excelled despite skating or lacked top end speed, not necessarily bad skates. Speed is only as good as the time it takes you to process the game, otherwise players like Grabner, Byron, Athenseau and so on would be top line talent.
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Lets not forget that hes a worse prospect than Cedric Guindon, or whatever.
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I agree with this I just dont know what side you are on.. His speed once he gets to it is not a problem. Its his explosiveness coming out of a dead/close to dead stop. He takes a little too long to get his speed up, and his posture when doing so allows him to be knocked off the puck early. But when he has control of the puck, he has the ability to slow the game down to the speed that he wants to play at. Something that Suzuki is extremely good at. When he has the puck, he decides how fast the pace will be, and this is a huge skill Roy has. Speed through the neutral zone isnt an issue, but his explosiveness is what can most definitely improve. And I think it has, but I also think that hes found ways to manipulate the play to benefit him when its based around the play the he lacks in. If he keeps improving on this, and is as smart as he is in those situations, there really shouldnt be an issue.
NHL scoring summed from 1987-88 to 1992-93
Player S/C Pos GP G A P +/- PIM P/GP EVG EVP PPG PPP SHG SHP OTG GWG S S% TOI/GP FOW% Mario Lemieux R C 362 332 494 826 136 432 2.28 194 448 101 323 37 55 3 36 1,545 21.5 -- -- Wayne Gretzky L C 412 222 586 808 86 148 1.96 154 491 50 279 18 38 1 20 1,318 16.8 -- -- Steve Yzerman R C 466 331 401 732 98 326 1.57 217 462 77 218 37 52 3 40 1,890 17.5 -- -- Luc Robitaille L L 478 303 330 633 46 448 1.32 193 414 108 214 2 5 2 36 1,401 21.6 -- -- Pat LaFontaine R C 444 286 325 611 6 319 1.38 181 355 99 250 6 6 3 36 1,550 18.5 -- -- Brett Hull R R 454 355 247 602 -10 184 1.33 223 352 127 245 5 5 3 43 2,088 17 -- -- Mark Messier L C 435 187 409 596 75 494 1.37 112 353 53 198 22 45 3 24 1,093 17.1 -- -- Adam Oates R C 437 143 447 590 45 147 1.35 95 371 44 211 4 8 0 25 990 14.4 -- -- Dale Hawerchuk L C 472 181 400 581 -87 268 1.23 100 299 75 272 6 10 2 17 1,437 12.6 -- -- Doug Gilmour L C 461 164 393 557 136 479 1.21 86 324 69 211 9 22 0 23 990 16.6 -- --
From 88 to 93, Robitaille was behind only Mario, Gretz and Yzerman. Pretty good company to be in.
So no, I don't think Roy will be that good.
He certainly could be a top six player. Maybe even a first liner. Hopefully he adjusts well to the AHL. Let's wait and see. This season should tell us a lot.
His SH point totals are hilarious
Bet you Roy beats him at least there lol
Vachon23
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Tanguay and Toffoli are good comparaison
Perry is not a good one though
Perry is not a good one though
I remember Tanguay as being a perimeter playmaker, a Drouin type player but way better.
Not sure I see that in Roy, he's got a bit more edge in his game and a goal scorer’s instinct.
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A Ribitaille with grit I have to say.
He's impossible to compare with. I see Toffoli as the closest example. Or a bigger Robitaille with a bit less goals and points but a bit better defensivly. A player that ends the season +/- between +5 to +17.
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Perry was such a treat that year. We got to see what hall of fame talent up front looked like for the first time in over two decades.
What a treat it would've been to watch him in his prime every night. absolutely incredible hockey player.
I think Roy carves out his own unique skill set and name. I don't think I would compare him to anyone right now, just think his ceiling is high, always looks so different than everyone else on the ice. his iq and his tools are hard to compare until he does it at the nhl level.
What a treat it would've been to watch him in his prime every night. absolutely incredible hockey player.
I think Roy carves out his own unique skill set and name. I don't think I would compare him to anyone right now, just think his ceiling is high, always looks so different than everyone else on the ice. his iq and his tools are hard to compare until he does it at the nhl level.
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I really like Roy but don’t expect a player that’s gonna play with an edge. Maybe in playoffs or in important moment but he’s someone that can take game off during the season
Robitaille was way too much of a star scorer for me to be ready to compare Roy to him.
I really like the comparisons to Toffoli though of course Roy is a LH shot.
We got a foretaste when Kovalchuk was here for one third of the first COVID shortened season. Even MORE talented than Perry, skills-wise. For 22 games, he got people out of their seats even at 36 years old.
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totally forgot about him. his OT goals were a nice treat. man, imagine the buzz if we had a kovalchuk for a decade.
I think Roy is going to make this team. His IQ is nhl level. He'll adapt quickly, especially with the right linemates. Clearly I'm a fanboy.
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Ever since the 22 wjcs, I get more excited about him the more I see him play. I think he's got an elite skillset, starting with his IQ. Habs could really use a homerun here.
When was the last time the Habs drafted someone who won his CHL league's scoring title?
