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Move Stutzle to the top line and move Norris down to the second line with Brown and Paul. That will slow down his goal scoring pace and save us a lot of money on his next contract.
Player Discussion Josh Norris C 6’1” - Part 2
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JackBauer
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Move Stutzle to the top line and move Norris down to the second line with Brown and Paul. That will slow down his goal scoring pace and save us a lot of money on his next contract.
Not saying it should be done now because that line is magic but once they cool down, maybe late Jan/early Feb, depending on standings, we should do this to see how Norris plays away from Drake. He's only worth 7.5+ if he can replicate some level of that offense away from Batherson. And if not, it lowers the price...hopefully.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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With Tkachuk, I had no doubt he'd be worth his contract. Norris, I don't know if I see enough for number 1 C on a contender team. That's the frustration--not him playing well, but if he pacing the type of play he can maintain for years to come?
Norris started to tear it up once Batherson and Tkachuk did but he was a nonfactor when they were quiet. He isn't the straw that stirs the drink, unlike Suzuki in MTL or Hughes in NJ. I wanna see more hands from Norris before I dish anything north of 7. He fumbles puck way to much on PP for my liking yet.
I also said Norris' potential looks like Couture but I want to see more puck retention from Norris before I feel confident in gambling on that with big pucks on his next contract.
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I'd argue 7.5 mil is fair for a high-end 2C or low-end 1C, which is what Norris projects to be
Kid's probably going to touch 50G a couple of times in his career, which should be over the next few years. Automatically makes him worth at least that kind of money. Being super defensively responsible and playing a premium position is the cherry on top.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Yea, this is like 3 seasons in a row where he's blown away expectations. Maybe just seriously wishful thinking on my part to have someone else, aside from Batherson, signed for a ridiculous steal.
Wouldn't mind signing Norris 7.5 x 8 then signing Stutzle 7.5 x8 too(God knows he'll be worth 10 million in a couple years).
Wouldn't mind signing Norris 7.5 x 8 then signing Stutzle 7.5 x8 too(God knows he'll be worth 10 million in a couple years).
TheDebater
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You would think some of the members of this forum are part of Melnyk's accounting team rather than actual fans of the hockey team itself.
It is not our money, let Dorion and Melnyk figure out how are they going to pay everyone, not up to us to worry that our great young players are going to be too good to afford.
It is not our money, let Dorion and Melnyk figure out how are they going to pay everyone, not up to us to worry that our great young players are going to be too good to afford.
ReginKarlssonLehner
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This is literally you in previous page of this same thread:
yet you're calling me out for worrying about our internal cap, lmfao. For a guy called thedebater, half ur posts sure are redundant.
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I don't think they should change the lineups, the top line seems to be really in sync with each other & all three really jell togther well & are becoming a dominant line. I don't think that should change just to appease Stutzle fans.
Besides, Stutzle is now centering a pretty good line with lots of speed & plenty of skill on it's own. C. Brown is starting to have another amazing season after his bout with Covid & returning to form as a 2nd line player with plenty of skill & playmaking ability. Formenton's speed also really helps to push back defences & give the other two more room to work & he's starting to put more pucks in the net.
This should allow them to create another good line around Pinto & maybe Sokolov next season. Maybe a Paul - Pinto - Sokolov 3rd line?
Besides, Stutzle is now centering a pretty good line with lots of speed & plenty of skill on it's own. C. Brown is starting to have another amazing season after his bout with Covid & returning to form as a 2nd line player with plenty of skill & playmaking ability. Formenton's speed also really helps to push back defences & give the other two more room to work & he's starting to put more pucks in the net.
This should allow them to create another good line around Pinto & maybe Sokolov next season. Maybe a Paul - Pinto - Sokolov 3rd line?
Yeah no need for changes. The guys were talking in game about how the D partners are starting to gel as well by playing more consistently together. No surprise that our break outs are getting better when guys are building familiarity along with a renewed commitment to team defence.
The guys not only really look like they want to play for each other, but especially Forsberg as well. Everyone keeps talking about how hard the guy works on and off the ice.
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I agree with this right now. But the top line WILL go through a slump at some point. When that happens I say switch the two top centers. I say this not because we need to do anything for Stützle or because he's a better fit. I just think that with Norris in a contract year we need to see what he can do away from Batherson and Tkachuk. If we're about to invest $7M a year (or more) long term I'd like to know that he can potentially drive his own line. These days I think Batherson is the stick that stirs that drink.
But right now, with the way they are playing? No way should we tinker with that top line.
Naw, Jimmy has to keep creating his own line. We have two players there now that seem to be gelling, and a third will come soon enough.
Pinto may get some time at wing now, which could be good for his own development, especially offensively, freeing him up from having to be the defensive focus of a line.
Unless the top line goes completely dry for an extremely long stretch, I don’t see a reason to break them up.
Pinto may get some time at wing now, which could be good for his own development, especially offensively, freeing him up from having to be the defensive focus of a line.
Unless the top line goes completely dry for an extremely long stretch, I don’t see a reason to break them up.
Norris has as many goals as Jimmy has points and is looking solid defensively
His goals are always off the inside of the post or just under the crossbar the guy is going to score goals for a lot of years.
Jimmy will probably move back to wing other than puck luck his play has not changed much at all, he was looking strong all year.
His goals are always off the inside of the post or just under the crossbar the guy is going to score goals for a lot of years.
Jimmy will probably move back to wing other than puck luck his play has not changed much at all, he was looking strong all year.
Norris is a 22 year old defensively responsible C that can also play physical pacing for 44 goals. Give the man his money and call it a day, he’s getting paid if he doesn’t slow down and deservedly so.
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That third line! It would be so much fun to watch but a bloody misery to play against.
Samsquanch
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Even at 7-8m per year for Norris - lets say the "worst" case happens and he scores 35+ goals and 70+ points this season, and Oster demands an 8m/yr ext if we go long term.
Paying $8.2 + $8.0 + $4.9 - or in other words a combined $21.1m/yr for an entire top line that can compete against the best in the NHL - thats a massive friggin homerun, and huge boost for this teams future chances.
That leaves room for Stutzle to make around the same as Norris, Sanderson to make the same as Chabot, and a huge amount of room to be flexible with guys like Pinto, Zub, Formenron, Branny, JBD and Thompson. And probably even a big name addition or two - like all the seemingly cap strapped contenders all manage to do.
Without naming any teams names - imagine some rich, irresponsible team paying a combined total of approximately $33m/yr on their top 3 forwards - and ask yourself how much better their results should be than our top 3 will to be able to justify an extra $9-12m/yr each season on them (depending on who our 3 highest paid forwards ends up being)?
The only right answer is like a metric f***ing crap load - like men among boys by comparison. And the trophies and hardware to prove it.
Paying $8.2 + $8.0 + $4.9 - or in other words a combined $21.1m/yr for an entire top line that can compete against the best in the NHL - thats a massive friggin homerun, and huge boost for this teams future chances.
That leaves room for Stutzle to make around the same as Norris, Sanderson to make the same as Chabot, and a huge amount of room to be flexible with guys like Pinto, Zub, Formenron, Branny, JBD and Thompson. And probably even a big name addition or two - like all the seemingly cap strapped contenders all manage to do.
Without naming any teams names - imagine some rich, irresponsible team paying a combined total of approximately $33m/yr on their top 3 forwards - and ask yourself how much better their results should be than our top 3 will to be able to justify an extra $9-12m/yr each season on them (depending on who our 3 highest paid forwards ends up being)?
The only right answer is like a metric f***ing crap load - like men among boys by comparison. And the trophies and hardware to prove it.
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TheDebater
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Strange, I never even quoted you, not sure why you are getting defensive...
And I am still waiting for you to give me a worthy response to my post in the Tkachuk thread, I wonder if this random jab you are throwing at me is due to the fact I completely owned you on the Tkachuk topic and now you are looking for a way to clap back?
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I can guarantee you Formenton won't be above Greig in depth chart. Unless you mean 1-2 years from now. Not sure what "future" meant.
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