Adrianopolous
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He's been much better than Tkachuk IMO. Switch last names and maybe Norris will now deserve the money?
Player Discussion Josh Norris C 6’1” - Part 2
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ReginKarlssonLehner
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Tkachuk already had 2 straight 50 point paces before Norris even made the NHL.. and Norris is older.
Tkachuk also is top 3 in the NHL in hits. Norris is much closer to Batherson than Tkachuk. Suzuki scored 40 points 2 years in a row and was leading scorer as number 1 2 way C of stanley cup team. Norris is not making 7.8 no matter how you cut it or I want him traded.
He's making in between Tkachuk and Batherson. AKA 6.5-6.75.
Norris is on pace for 35 goals this season, no way we get Batherson for the price we did had he done that prior to signing. He is going to be expensive on a long-term deal.
Adrianopolous
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Norris had a 50 point pace last year as well and is on pace for almost 60 points, 35 goals this season. But Tkachuk deserves more since he is 4 months younger and hits more? Come on man..
Norris has 50 points in his first 80 games and has 26 goals, Suzuki has 32 goals and 97 points in 152 games they are the same age. There isn't much of a production gap at all. They both have 15 points this year with Norris having double the goals. Suzuki is also -10.
I don't know how much money he will get but Suzuki is not levels above him
ReginKarlssonLehner
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Love Norris, but he aint finishing with 35. Probably around 25 which isn't 7.8 mil worthy.
You comprehend well? Norris had 50 point pace last year(in half season) as a 21 year old. Tkachuk was on his 3rd season pacing that many points by then, and much more proven as it was complete seasons.
Also, everyone and their mother knows Tkachuk was vastly overpaid (by at least 1.5 mil) because team identity was build in his image and he was future captain. Norris has Pinto breathing down his neck and Norris himself can possibly be traded for upgrade legit number 1 C. Not as much leverage, especially since Batherson got 5 mil.
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I think he's a 2nd line C playing 1st line. IMO he's not worth more than Batherson. Batherson signed a real team friendly deal but I would cap Norris at around 6AAV on anything 6 years or more. I think we overpaid Tkachuk by 1.5-2m per though so I guess I'm cheap.
Adrianopolous
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If Norris' pace holds this year he would have had a better two first seasons production wise than Tkachuk had on his first two seasons, and his most recent seasons as well. It's interesting that Tkachuk still can't outpace Norris even with 2 extra years of NHL experience. If Tkachuk somehow warrants $8.2, then Norris deserves a very close number to that.
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They overpaid for Tkachuk and made him captain and needed him to commit to their gong show of a team. Norris doesn't bring the same clout.
Eh I’m not so sure, he’s struggled at times this year but he finds ways to produce. Obviously if he ends up with 25 that changes the dynamics of the contract talks.
Regardless, Norris is the ideal player to bridge for all the reasons you mentioned. No need to go crazy and give him a ton of money long-term, just do a 2 or 3 year deal and find out for sure what he’s worth.
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I have just because Norris is more of a basic meat and potato player that doesn’t try to show fancy skills it doesn’t mean he isn’t just as productive.
I find Suzuki way more creative and a better playmaker than Norris. Ideally Norris is a 2C. He is the better goal scorer but I find he lacks a bit of hands, puck distribution and creativity for his linemates as a C
great player tho
great player tho
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That's the problem with playing guys above where they should be in the lineup. They look a bit better than they truly are, and get overpaid for their abilities. I like Norris, but he really is a 2C at this level.
If we end up paying him as a 1C, then it will cause problems down the road.
If we end up paying him as a 1C, then it will cause problems down the road.
Going back roughly 60 games Norris has gone without a goal for 6 games only once - other than that he is generally not going more than 3 games without a goal...his scoring consistency is very solid and it is because he has the ability to score from anywhere.
This season has been brutal but the upside to Norris is still huge. He looks like he will be a 30+ goal C who has lots of room to round out his game and become better defensively and in the dot.
I think some are sleeping on Josh due to this ugly season.
This season has been brutal but the upside to Norris is still huge. He looks like he will be a 30+ goal C who has lots of room to round out his game and become better defensively and in the dot.
I think some are sleeping on Josh due to this ugly season.
Norris is a better player than Brady. If he's a part of the Sens long term he'll be paid less though because he isn't captain and the team is marketing around Brady's toughness and what not. Norris is a goal scoring centre and I hope we hold on to a centre that we acquired, and have developed decently. If him and Stuetzle can be a 1-2 centre duo that can pop 30g each we're in a good position.
I hope we can sign him long term for cheap, but a deal similar to Batherson is fine.
I hope we can sign him long term for cheap, but a deal similar to Batherson is fine.
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He just finished his first 82 games scoring 27 goals and 52 points. He will play this season as a 22 year old. He could still easily turn into a top line player. I can't remember the las time the Sens had a 21/22 year old throw up 27 goals in his first 82 games.
People acting like he has been shity or has reached his peak are plain loco
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