Around the League Thread | November Rain

[Nick Lang]

Yeah I see no downside for Mongomery. They have had a couple important injuries. They have a solid farm system. They have some young players already on the squad. I can see them challenging for a wildcard this season.

People love to criticize other teams but they don't always realize the entire situation. It would be pretty hard as an owner of an older Midwest St. Louis team to just tear apart what is probably a pretty successful franchise since they won in 2019.

That's an awful lot of good players to just dumparooski all in order to purposely suck and lose revenue for 7 years. There is a lot at stake and it's not a horrible business decision.

 

[MS]

People love to criticize other teams but they don't always realize the entire situation. It would be pretty hard as an owner of an older Midwest St. Louis team to just tear apart what is probably a pretty successful franchise since they won in 2019.

That's an awful lot of good players to just dumparooski all in order to purposely suck and lose revenue for 7 years. There is a lot at stake and it's not a horrible business decision.

Fans love playing video games. Real people with real money live in the real world. Rebuilds only happen as a last resort.

 

[StreetHawk]

People love to criticize other teams but they don't always realize the entire situation. It would be pretty hard as an owner of an older Midwest St. Louis team to just tear apart what is probably a pretty successful franchise since they won in 2019.

That's an awful lot of good players to just dumparooski all in order to purposely suck and lose revenue for 7 years. There is a lot at stake and it's not a horrible business decision.

They have enough good players to not be bottom 3 bad. Blues currently 7th worst based on points percentage. A rebuild is a long process. Anaheim has gone 6 years, SJ 5 years, Chi 4 years, CBJ 4 years. I don't think any of these 4 are getting in this year. Even if you call Det's rebuild from 2019 for Yzerman, it's at least 5 years and 3 more with Holland.

I think people over estimate the 20 something pick in the draft. Plus non A prospects.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Tonight, we are all Hockey Clubs

 

[Nick Lang]

Fans love playing video games. Real people with real money live in the real world. Rebuilds only happen as a last resort.

So true. According to this prevailing logic people are arguing 6 teams are contending, 6 are already rebuilding, and 20 should be tearing up their team and trading anything of value starting tomorrow.

They have enough good players to not be bottom 3 bad. Blues currently 7th worst based on points percentage. A rebuild is a long process. Anaheim has gone 6 years, SJ 5 years, Chi 4 years, CBJ 4 years. I don't think any of these 4 are getting in this year. Even if you call Det's rebuild from 2019 for Yzerman, it's at least 5 years and 3 more with Holland.

I think people over estimate the 20 something pick in the draft. Plus non A prospects.

Yeah, St. Louis could get a smattering of some good assets, but nothing to sell the farm for either in ways of top 10 picks, or surefire prospects. It would be a long rebuild where you might wake up tomorrow with a crap on ice product saying, "what the heck did we do"?

St. Louis was 6 points out of a spot last year and lost to Vegas 2-1 in one of the last games of the season. They were in it right until the end. Not exactly a team you automatically blow up.

 

[ManVanFan]

Tonight, we are all Hockey Clubs

Mitch Marner without AM34.

14 points in 8 games.

Leafs fan were ready to get rid of him because he isn't good enough.

TML have also won 7 out of 8.

 

[Vector]

Watch Columbus do something very dumb like trading Jiricek for Savoie.

 

[ManVanFan]

Watch Columbus do something very dumb like trading Jiricek for Savoie.

LOL Wadell is not that dumb.

 

[arttk]

Mitch Marner without AM34.

14 points in 8 games.

Leafs fan were ready to get rid of him because he isn't good enough.

TML have also won 7 out of 8.

Wait till the playoffs lol

 

[Vector]

LOL Wadell is not that dumb.

*Atlanta Thrashers have entered the chat*

 

[ManVanFan]

*Atlanta Thrashers have entered the chat*

That was a decade and a half ago. Wadell was pretty good in Carolina.

 

[arttk]

That was a decade and a half ago. Wadell was pretty good in Carolina.

Well his role was fairly limited

 

[Vector]

That was a decade and a half ago. Wadell was pretty good in Carolina.

He really wasn’t calling the shots in Carolina. Far more of a president than GM there.

 

[arttk]

He really wasn’t calling the shots in Carolina. Far more of a president than GM there.

He makes the trade calls, but he doesn’t make the decision behind them.

 

[Vector]

He makes the trade calls, but he doesn’t make the decision behind them.

Yes, that is how I’d characterize that situation.

 

[ManVanFan]

He really wasn’t calling the shots in Carolina. Far more of a president than GM there.

Tulsky was calling the shots then?

 

[arttk]

Tulsky was calling the shots then?

No the owner was essentially with input from everyone

 

[Ernie]

Tulsky was calling the shots then?

Ownership is very hands on apparently.

 

[credulous]

i'm pretty surprised the blues fired bannister. he did a pretty good job there last year imo and that team has maybe the worst defense in the league. i'd even take san jose's group over them

i guess montgomery was likely to be coaching again imminently and they know him from his previous stint there but bannister got a raw deal as a result. i think whoever picks him up next will be pretty happy

 

[Vector]

Tulsky was calling the shots then?

Tulsky and the others in the analytics department made suggestions to Dundon. Waddell basically followed their direction and used his connections to get the players they wanted at the prices he was told.

It’s why he left. Wanted to actually call the shots. This is also why no one cared that he left. There’s an understanding that Waddell was not the guy making roster decisions.