Player Discussion Josh Norris (C) 6’-1” - Part 3

[Billy Bridges]

Or maybe hire one that knows how to treat shoulder injuries properly is more accurate .. lol

Or better yet maybe educate yourself on the situation - If you were paying attention the medical staff told Dorion weeks/months ago that Norris shoulder is fixed and that we got nothing to worry about .. They seem like amateurs low budget doctors/trainers leftover from Melnyk ownership.

You should write a strongly worded letter to the IIHF complaining that their Chief Medical Officer is a low budget amateur.

 

[Philadelphia Collins]

What was even the point of Pierre and his cronies gaslighting us about Norris being healthy all preseason long lol

Centre depth looking putrid all of a sudden

 

[Alex The Loyal]

That's my point. This new story seems like a spin to protect Norris.

It's not to protect Norris. It's so they dont get roasted over an open fire by Pinto and his agent. Who needs to be signed ASAP

 

[DueDiligence]

What was even the point of Pierre and his cronies gaslighting us about Norris being healthy all preseason long lol

Centre depth looking putrid all of a sudden

Maybe it wasn't gaslighting.

It's not to protect Norris. It's so they dont get roasted over an open fire by Pinto and his agent. Who needs to be signed ASAP

Sorry but how does Norris not being physically able to play help in negotiations with Pinto?

 

[Alex The Loyal]

Maybe it wasn't gaslighting.


Sorry but how does Norris not being physically able to play help in negotiations with Pinto?

Because Pinto can now just go to Ottawa "wow looks you really need a centre reeeeaaaaaally badly huh that's a shame anyways pay me"

 

[DueDiligence]

It's not to protect Norris. It's so they dont get roasted over an open fire by Pinto and his agent.

Because Pinto can now just go to Ottawa "wow looks you really need a centre reeeeaaaaaally badly huh that's a shame anyways pay me"

Sorry but you are contradicting yourself.

 

[OD99]

Maybe it wasn't gaslighting.


Sorry but how does Norris not being physically able to play help in negotiations with Pinto?

If we start the season with a healthy Norris, we have a better chance of starting well.

If the Senators come out winning, the need for Pinto (theoretically) is less and the Senators can hold strong.

If the Senators don't have Norris and don't come out winning, the need for Pinto increases, giving Pinto leverage to get what he wants.

The best case is Grieg or whoever fills in well enough and the team keeps winning despite missing Norris/Pinto. Then we don't need to make a panic move.

Sorry but you are contradicting yourself.

Those 2 posts say the same thing...where is the contradiction?

 

[Alex The Loyal]

Those 2 posts say the same thing...where is the contradiction?

Beats me pal

 

[Burrowsaurus]

If Norris needs. Another surgery and misses another massive amount of time we need to accept he likely just won’t meet his potential. Missing so much dev time.

 

[Golden_Jet]

One thing I have been unable to find out is if LTIR can carry over from seasons to season. Theoretically, Norris has been on LTIR since January and CapFriendly still has him there. That is more than 10 games and 24 days. So in that case, can he come off it at any time?

One slight correction, he’s been on IR all summer, not LTIR, so yes he can come off IR at any time, but could also be moved to LTIR to start season.

 

[StoicSensFan]

Damn I guess that dude on reddit was right. Must be Randy

 

[HSF]

lol sens...its like how Boucher would be ready for camp

 

[Golden_Jet]

Would Pinto even play the first game of the season if we signed him this weekend?

No too late, Brady missed a week after he signed

 

[bert]

It is smart for him to be cautious. It is also smart for the Sens management. We are invested to 8 years of this kids life.

Too bad they didn't use this type of caution last year. Gross mismanagement of the player and injury. No Pinto or Norris to open the season. Inexcusable, fire Dorion now.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I don’t see how LTIRing a player practicing in a non-contact jersey doesn’t result in an investigation by the NHL.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I don’t see how LTIRing a player practicing in a non-contact jersey doesn’t result in an investigation by the NHL.

I feel the the NHL largely doesn't give a shit, lol. If we were entering the playoffs over the cap and we LTIRed a player in a non-contact jersey sure, otherwise nah.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

And of course a lot of the confusion about all this can be directly traced back to Dorion talking too much. "Oh he's fine, he'd play if this was the regular season. We are just being extra cautious".

He was probably being honest but he should have stuck to "he's tweaked something and we are going to see what happens". That is how you handle questions about an injury to a key player who has missed significant time and had a setback.

 

[Bileur]

I don’t see how LTIRing a player practicing in a non-contact jersey doesn’t result in an investigation by the NHL.

Leafs LTIR’s a player who was on their playoff roster and didn’t suffer a new injury.

I doubt the league would care.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

He retiring?

 

[mouser]

One thing I have been unable to find out is if LTIR can carry over from seasons to season. Theoretically, Norris has been on LTIR since January and CapFriendly still has him there. That is more than 10 games and 24 days. So in that case, can he come off it at any time?

LTIR resets at the end of each season. As of this moment there is only one known player who was placed on off-season LTIR for 2023-24: Jake Muzzin.

 

[Senscore]

This is very disheartening

 

[Korpse]

He retiring?

Lol wut. He skated with the team this morning and is cleared for contact in practice.

 

[swiftwin]

Lol wut. He skated with the team this morning and is cleared for contact in practice.

No, his arm was amputated. He was using a prosthetic.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Lol wut. He skated with the team this morning and is cleared for contact in practice.

We are talking about Norris?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Well my excitement for the season just went up in smoke. God damn injuries ruining fun.