Player Discussion Jordan Harris part 2

[JoelWarlord]

Everything I have read, it is my opinion and prediction, tell me I'm an idiot and ignorant, I don't care. An NHL coach now has to coddle prospects who refuse to go the AHL because they're so special, you will damage their psyche for years if you send them down.

I don't think there's been anything that says he's unwilling to go to the AHL. He would play in the NHL this year if Montreal signed him because after Chiarot is traded the LD depth chart will be Romanov, Kulak (if he's not traded as well), and Clague/Scheuneman so there's no reason not to give him a chance over those two guys. But there's been nothing that says he's adamant about never going to the AHL ever again, I'm sure he'd prefer not to but I doubt he's convinced himself that he's Adam Fox or something.

It doesn't really make sense anyway. If you believe Harris is dead set against playing in the AHL that would only make him significantly more likely to sign with Montreal. He'll have an automatic spot this year, and next year there'd be an obvious spot for him at LD behind Edmundson and Romanov with Guhle as his only real competition. If he goes to Boston he's competing with Reilly, Gryzelcyk, and Forbort all signed for 3M for 2 more years at LD, and he'll be competing with Zboril, Ahcan, and Vaakanainen to be the next guy up as injury depth.

 

[1909]

Since Hughes took over, and signing of MSL, I'm of the belief that he will sign in MTL after college and play some games this season.
At least I'm hoping that's the case

Why is he not just saying it ?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Why is he not just saying it ?

He did have an interview with TVA Sports in August and he said that his intentions are to make it work with the Canadiens. And this was after he had discussions with MB about possibly turning pro before Jordan decided to go back for his final year at NE.

And now he has Hughes and MSL, with whom he has stronger connections with.

Also, Evans never said he was going to sign with Montreal either when he was in his final year of college. He also was vague about it when he was interviewed about signing with Habs.

 

[The Last Red]

Why is he not just saying it ?

How would that benefit him? He probably has more leverage if he stays vague until the last possible second.

 

[montreal]

Yup. Another year at Northeastern, where he will play a more prominent role, and then you sign him.

Unless of course he struggles or has injury issues that sets him back. Then you can send him another year in the NCAA before signing him because you still hold his rights until August 2024.

They own the rights of Struble till Aug of 23.

@montreal what's the absolute earliest and latest Harris could be eliminated?

If they lose Saturday night their season is all but over, if they win they should make the NCAA tournament at the end of the month but we'll see as the pairwise is tricky and they are on the bubble.

Even back in Sweden, I don't think he's playing a prominent role and last I saw, was pointless in his last 10. I know its early, but you've gotta show me something.it looks very discouraging. Even Nygren showed more.

He was on the top pairing, then he came over and got injured now he's on the bottom pairing. Last game he played 10 mins. He had the same issue as Juulsen, headaches days after the hit he took (not pucks to the face but his face was smashed into the glass) I assume he's 100% but don't know.

But it's not uncommon for players to struggle when they return from injury, he killed in the SHL playoffs last year, so like Caufield this year when he had 1 goal, their skill just didn't disappear but confidence can be tough to get back when you lose it.

 

[Adam Michaels]

They own the rights of Struble till Aug of 23.

It seems CapFriendly made a mistake because they have him listed at August 2024.

 

[lamp9post]

Why is he not just saying it ?

Why would he?

 

[montreal]

It seems CapFriendly made a mistake because they have him listed at August 2024.

it is a mistake, that was the correct date at the time of the draft as he wasn't supposed to go directly to the NCAA but then it changed and he went directly to NU so his rights 100% expire on August 15th, 2023.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[Canadienna]

I hope we're doing whatever we're technically allowed to do to entice a player to come here beyond his actual salary.

Set him up with a sweet place to live, maybe sponsorships or access to high end medical/physical facilities.

 

[lamp9post]

5'11" defensive defenseman. Are we looking at a better skating Josh Gorges or does he have untapped offensive potential?

 

[ngc_5128]

I hope we're doing whatever we're technically allowed to do to entice a player to come here beyond his actual salary.

Set him up with a sweet place to live, maybe sponsorships or access to high end medical/physical facilities.

Other than the amenities every other player in the org. has access to, doing that other stuff is cap circumvention and not allowed.

 

[Scintillating10]

Harris should thrive under MSL

 

[montreal]

5'11" defensive defenseman. Are we looking at a better skating Josh Gorges or does he have untapped offensive potential?

that's the question, as he's going to play in the NHL, 100% no doubt about it imo. But how good in the offense cause he's not strong but he's very smart and poised, no panic in his game. Great mobility, skating. Moves the puck well, his shot doesn't seem that bad but not a lot of power to it.

 

[montreal]

• Harris blocked a team-high 64 shots on the year and ends the regular season with a +15 rating.
• Offensively he chipped in with 19 points on the year, with five goals and 14 assists. One goal counted as a game-winner, and his 14 assists are tied for second-most on the team.
• Was named Hockey East Defender of the Week on Nov. 1.
• Harris is just the fourth Northeastern Husky to win the award in its 23 year history, and the first since Josh Manson in 2013-14.

 

[The Last Red]

5'11" defensive defenseman. Are we looking at a better skating Josh Gorges or does he have untapped offensive potential?

A better skating Gorges, which is fine. You need 6 D, not 4 or 5. But Struble is the more interesting prospect.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

5'11" defensive defenseman. Are we looking at a better skating Josh Gorges or does he have untapped offensive potential?

Jared Spurgeon is smaller and he's kinda of in the middle plays the defensive side solid.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

5'11" defensive defenseman. Are we looking at a better skating Josh Gorges or does he have untapped offensive potential?

Bad comparison. Poise, iq and hockey sense are his strengths along with elite skating. He’s better than Gorges at everything.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

A better skating Gorges, which is fine. You need 6 D, not 4 or 5. But Struble is the more interesting prospect.

Harris is the better prospect AINEC.

 

[26Mats]

Bad comparison. Poise, iq and hockey sense are his strengths along with elite skating. He’s better than Gorges at everything.

Gorges was dominant in Junior.

So, curious why you think Harris will have a better NHL career than Gorges. I'd be ecstatic if Harris was the next Gorges. A mobile top 4 dman that can move the puck and is good defensively.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Gorges was dominant in Junior.

So, curious why you think Harris will have a better NHL career than Gorges. I'd be ecstatic if Harris was the next Gorges. A mobile top 4 dman that can move the puck and is good defensively.

I think Harris has top pairing potential and is virtually a lock to be top4 in my opinion. His poise and iq, skating, transitionz, passing, his ability to read and anticipate plays. It feels like he’s the quarterback on the ice, controlling the play.

He’s got skills Gorges never had. Gorges had one ppg season, a partial season in junior. His numbers were good, but nothing spectacular. I find dominate describes Harris, not Gorges. Harris controls the play.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I think Harris has top pairing potential and is virtually a lock to be top4 in my opinion. His poise and iq, skating, transitionz, passing, his ability to read and anticipate plays. It feels like he’s the quarterback on the ice, controlling the play.

He’s got skills Gorges never had. Gorges had one ppg season, a partial season in junior. His numbers were good, but nothing spectacular. I find dominate describes Harris, not Gorges. Harris controls the play.

I know you're Guhles no. 1 fan haha but in 3 years between him and Harris, who do You personally see being the more useful player for the Habs (higher in the depth chart)?

 

[26Mats]

I think Harris has top pairing potential and is virtually a lock to be top4 in my opinion. His poise and iq, skating, transitionz, passing, his ability to read and anticipate plays. It feels like he’s the quarterback on the ice, controlling the play.

He’s got skills Gorges never had. Gorges had one ppg season, a partial season in junior. His numbers were good, but nothing spectacular. I find dominate describes Harris, not Gorges. Harris controls the play.

Very interesting. I look forward to seeing him next year after he hopefully signs, and will watch some of Northeastern's games as the current season closes out.

 

[Tim Wallach]

I see Boston just signed Mike Callahan, an LD out of Providence. This has to be a good sign for our quest to sign Harris.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

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I've been reading a couple of times that Bergevin didn't know Harris' 1st name? Any truth to this?

Who's quote is that