Almost 4 years of enigma play, thought MSL, never know, though unlikely, but WTH, let's see. And now he is out. Not his fault, guys get injured. But you know.. .par for the course. Sigh.
Player Discussion Jonathan Drouin - Part 5
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Why wouldn't we use LTIR on Weber?
Estimated_Prophet
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Weber will be moved in the summer and Petry is extremely unlikely to be here as well. Price may not even be around at that point as well, I don't think Hughes and Gorton are remotely concerned about the difficulty of staying under the cap.
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Buying out Drouin seems a very good option. I’d be fine adding some assets to unload him along with Weber.
Getting Petry and Drouin away from the team would be a huge win.
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MarkovsKnee
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Because player's bonuses earned in an LTIR year are automatically deferred to next year's cap, and not in a good way, it reduces your cap the following year. Rookie contracts are full of player bonuses.
Suzuki, Caufield, Romanov & Harris could easily cost us $1,5m against the cap next year meaning our max cap is $81m instead of $82.5m.
If we are in LTIR BEFORE opening day, our cap is automatically capped out giving us zero space.
As well any bonuses earned next year will affect the following year's cap, with potentially Caufield, Harris, Guhle, Ylonen, all on ELCs, there's potential for more overage penalties.
Also, no LTIR exists in the summer, but you can go 10% over the cap. The new cap comes into affect July 1st. If our new cap is at set $81m because of overages then that also reduces the amount we can go over in the summer.
Weber himself almost makes up that 10%, which means if we use it, it means we can't be cap compliant by opening day. We'd go into LTIR early leaving us with no cap flexibility.
Hughes talked about getting more cap flexibility and getting out of LTIR. There are good reasons why Weber's contract is for sale.
MarkovsKnee
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The other issue with Drouin is roster construction. Where does he fit in the lineup? Hughes talked about veteran players blocking rookies. I have to imagine Ylonen will be given a strong opportunity to make the team next season.
Caufield-Suzuki-Armia (place holder, guys)
Hoffman-Dvorak-Gallagher
Anderson-Pitlick-Ylonen
Pezzetta-Evans-Byron
Poehling
Dauphin? / RHP? As 14th/15th forwards.
Zero room for Drouin.
Caufield-Suzuki-Armia (place holder, guys)
Hoffman-Dvorak-Gallagher
Anderson-Pitlick-Ylonen
Pezzetta-Evans-Byron
Poehling
Dauphin? / RHP? As 14th/15th forwards.
Zero room for Drouin.
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That's a fair point. If he doesn't fit the top nine then there's no place for him.
That said I would love to move Armia. Maybe the Jets want their trash back.
MarkovsKnee
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The three priorities this summer are: move Weber's contract, trade Petry and resolve the Drouin situation. Those 3 count for $19.6m against our cap.
I'm ok with keeping Armia and Hoffman for another year, as Army will be easier to trade with 2 years left and Hoffman with one year left. If we move the above 3, Armia & Hoffman's cap hits are inconsequential.
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Monsieur Miz
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I this point, I'm pretty sure he does not care about his career anymore. With 5.5m i can live a luxury life for the next 50 years.
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Wak Prescott the 60M/yr scam artist, here we gooo!
One more year and his stint in Montreal will be nothing more than a nightmare I'll try to wipe from my memory. One of, if not the biggest, let downs of the past 30 years. What a useless, unreliable plug this guy turned out to be.
Put him on LTIR.
Trade for Dadoniv with a sweetener.
Buy out Drouin in offseason
Trade for Dadoniv with a sweetener.
Buy out Drouin in offseason
DougHarvey
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He just needs to retire. He has no heart for the game. He should take care of whatever mental problems he has as I think a lot of it has to do with the pressure to perform as a hockey player.
MakeTheGoalsLarger
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His wrist has been a major hindrance for quite some time. He had a very good shot when he joined the Habs. Now he's like the Habs version of Scott Gomez.
DougHarvey
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Not saying he will , but he might. I think he looks for any excuse not to play. Earlier this year he was medically cleared to play and chose not to. I think the pressure of playing in Montreal is too much for him.
26Mats
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Lavois reporting he's out for the rest of the year, needs another operation on his wrist.
Saison terminée pour Drouin - TVA Sports
Le malheur continue de s’acharner sur le pauvre Jonathan Drouin.
MarkovsKnee
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Well this complicates things. You can't buy out injured players. However, buyout period doesn't start til 2 weeks after Stanley Cup Finals end, which is end of June/early July. So 3 months.
Maybe enough time to heal? Don't see Montreal putting him on LTIR at all. He'll stay on IR.
You have to think Drouin would be open to a buy-out. He gets two-thirds of his pay & becomes a UFA and can sign in Arizona or Anaheim, or wherever there's no media.
Anyways, this wrist issue has been longstanding for the last 3 years. Maybe he's done.
Maybe enough time to heal? Don't see Montreal putting him on LTIR at all. He'll stay on IR.
You have to think Drouin would be open to a buy-out. He gets two-thirds of his pay & becomes a UFA and can sign in Arizona or Anaheim, or wherever there's no media.
Anyways, this wrist issue has been longstanding for the last 3 years. Maybe he's done.
MoneyManny
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No surprise a jagoff like Drouin suffers from lingering wrist issues...
I've litterally never seen a pro athlete with less heart than him. Complained about the Montreal hockey market when i'd be surprised if it was in the top 50 highest pressure sports markets in the world.
They have to get that guy away from this team at any cost. He's been a massive stain on the habs for years.
I've litterally never seen a pro athlete with less heart than him. Complained about the Montreal hockey market when i'd be surprised if it was in the top 50 highest pressure sports markets in the world.
They have to get that guy away from this team at any cost. He's been a massive stain on the habs for years.
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