John Tortorella Named (Part Time) Head Coach Discussion

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I really don’t pay attention to forward usage in OT. He doesn’t trust 4 or 5 forwards in OT. Yeah, I agree with Magua that is a line of bullshit.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It’s a lie is what it is. Frost-Tippett / Farabee-Cates / Laughton-Hayes. Wow, that was difficult. Or just ice 2 defensemen on every unit with a below average defensive group.

It’s a refusal to admit wrongness. Nothing more, nothing less. Which is a great trait in a coach, especially such a forward thinking offensive minded one.

A coach too stubborn and arrogant to learn about changes to the game is too stubborn and arrogant to admit to being wrong? I'm shocked.

 

[Rebels57]

It’s a lie is what it is. Frost-Tippett / Farabee-Cates / Laughton-Hayes. Wow, that was difficult. Or just ice 2 defensemen on every unit with a below average defensive group.

It’s a refusal to admit wrongness. Nothing more, nothing less. Which is a great trait in a coach, especially such a forward thinking offensive minded one.

Either way, its for the best right now. They'd probably have a few more OT wins and points if not for his stupidity.

 

[Curufinwe]

It’s a lie is what it is. Frost-Tippett / Farabee-Cates / Laughton-Hayes. Wow, that was difficult. Or just ice 2 defensemen on every unit with a below average defensive group.

It’s a refusal to admit wrongness. Nothing more, nothing less. Which is a great trait in a coach, especially such a forward thinking offensive minded one.

You could even put Allison with Laughts if Hayes is too slow.

 

[Beef Invictus]

JVR exists too

 

[prototypical4thliner]

JVR exists too

It’s the perfect opportunity to showcase him.

 

[deadhead]

He had the Rangers grinding so hard that f***ing Alain Vigneault took them to a cup finals after taking over just by virtue of not being Torts. Probably shortened Girardi's career by a few years having him eat a puck buffet every game.

Even his cup win with Tampa where he played 3 forwards 30 minutes a game and rode a hot goalie and Fedotenko's insane hot streak was a perfect example of what not to do for 99% of teams and situations.

TB 2003-02
Regular season ATOI:
Boyle 22:46
Kubina 21:09

Playoffs
Kubina 22:54
Boyle 21:27

Forwards
St Louis (28) 20:35
Richards (23) 20:26
Stillman (30) 19:32
Modin (29) 18:12
Vinnie (23) 18:04

Playoffs
Richards 23:28
St Louis 22:52
Modin 20:47
Vinnie 19:39

Lindqvist
S% GAA - xG/60 (playoffs)
2010-11: .917 -0.52
2011-12: .931 -0.64
2012-13: .934 -0.86 [lost CF]
2013-14: .927 -0.59 Lavi takes over
2014-15: .928 -0.60 [lost SC]
2015-16: .867 +1.33
2016-17: .927 -0.30

 

[Beef Invictus]

TB 2003-02
Regular season ATOI:
Boyle 22:46
Kubina 21:09

Playoffs
Kubina 22:54
Boyle 21:27

Forwards
St Louis (28) 20:35
Richards (23) 20:26
Stillman (30) 19:32
Modin (29) 18:12
Vinnie (23) 18:04

Playoffs
Richards 23:28
St Louis 22:52
Modin 20:47
Vinnie 19:39

Lindqvist
S% GAA - xG/60 (playoffs)
2010-11: .917 -0.52
2011-12: .931 -0.64
2012-13: .934 -0.86 [lost CF]
2013-14: .927 -0.59 Lavi takes over
2014-15: .928 -0.60 [lost SC]
2015-16: .867 +1.33
2016-17: .927 -0.30

When you have to reach back to 2003 whatever you're saying is irrelevant to hockey today.

 

[Magua]

Wait, this quote makes it seem like he’s not coaching another game the rest of the season.



Got to have Rocky Thompson coaching; he’s a real up and comer, just look at his dazzling PP work. And Darryl Williams! A 55 year old Vigneault holdover who was in the ECHL prior.

Spare me this “coaching development” angle. They gleefully trot out Lappy in the AHL where the real development happens. And none of these assistants (2 of them nearly 60 years old) project as head coaches. This is a lazy head coach suffering ennui.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

how do i get a job were i can sit in a coffee break room and watch someone else do my job i get paid for ??

#oldboisclub perks

 

[Beef Invictus]

Guy has already quit. Lazy bum.

 

[flyershockey]

Prepare yourselves for Torts to GM and Briere to President of Hockey Ops. That would be the next chapter in this epic run of sticking it to the fanbase.

 

[renberg]

Torts as GM; Briere as President of Operations; Shaw as HC; no, I wouldn’t like that a little bit.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

JFC I cannot wait for this season to end. What a clown show

 

[Curufinwe]

Four mil to watch games from the press box. Nice “work” if you can get it.

 

[Striiker]

Wow great point Charlie. Torts is an amazing coach.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Wait.

Briere wasn’t even there to “pass notes to” AND he’s sitting somewhere random?!?!

 

[Young Sandwich]

He was probably playing the original Angry Birds on the shitter for 3 hours.

 

[deadhead]

He's probably trying to avoid choking Hayes to death on the bench.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

He's probably trying to avoid choking Hayes to death on the bench.

I’d sign up for two more season tickets to see that.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Wait.

Briere wasn’t even there to “pass notes to” AND he’s sitting somewhere random?!?!

Fire everyone.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Torts as gm would be make Chuck look like a star.

 

[Rich Nixon]

would be totally sick if Briere had a couple conversations with Torts and went "yeah, nah, you're not the guy for this" and just shuffled him out. if that happened, I'd have the confidence to believe he was his own man and willing to take the franchise in a new direction.

won't happen though.

 

[Beef Invictus]

would be totally sick if Briere had a couple conversations with Torts and went "yeah, nah, you're not the guy for this" and just shuffled him out. if that happened, I'd have the confidence to believe he was his own man and willing to take the franchise in a new direction.

won't happen though.

Flahr is still being fed. Nothing is different.

 

[Rich Nixon]

Flahr is still being fed. Nothing is different.

String me up for this but...I really like what I've seen from a handful of recent forward picks. I think Brink and Foerster are real-deal top 6 NHL players in the making. Gauthier, I still take Jiricek instead...but he's got a whole lotta sauce in those meaty loins, I think that's Jeff Carter 2.0.

So if that's Flahr's handywork, I can stomach that and see what he does when he has more picks in the first couple rounds and some better direction. They need to do better drafting defenders, badly. Ultimately, it's on Briere to set those priorities and acquire/keep the draft picks they need to stock the cupboard.