John Tortorella Named (Part Time) Head Coach Discussion

[Curufinwe]

Holy f***, who cares what happened in a playoff series 6 years ago or whatever it was.

It's crazy, right.

 

[Larry44]

Solid chance he's already Vancouvered himself here. He's been an aggressive and public asshole to players.

Torts knew when he took the deal he was going to get AV'd. 4 years x $4M/yr, IIRC, so he only needs to finish this year and make to next Thanksgiving = $16M for 16 month's work!

 

[JojoTheWhale]

What universe do you live in? CBJ's GM is worse than Fletcher.
This is the guy who starts a rebuild by trading Seth Jones, then trades for Voracek and signs JG and Gudbranson.
Doesn't know if he's coming or going.

Gudbranson was horrible. The rest of those include a solid bet, an actual star for nothing other than cap space, and an absolutely fantastic Jones trade.

You didn’t even include his worst recent move here. Sometimes I think we pay attention to different sports.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Jones sucks, so that was a win
Voracek for Atkinson saved a year of bad contracts, win. And now a huge win because they are totally out of the contract altogether while we are stuck with it for years still

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Jones sucks, so that was a win
Voracek for Atkinson saved a year of bad contracts, win. And now a huge win because they are totally out of the contract altogether while we are stuck with it for years still

#Flyerstypical

 

[deadhead]

Jones sucks, so that was a win
Voracek for Atkinson saved a year of bad contracts, win. And now a huge win because they are totally out of the contract altogether while we are stuck with it for years still

Voracek was luck, he was worse than Atkinson last season, injured this season and would have been an $8.25M albatross if he was less susceptible to concussions.

Can't credit or blame GMs for post-deal good or bad luck.

My point was his moves were an obvious sign he has no long-term strategy, just a bunch of knee jerk moves.

 

[Striiker]

slurp slurp slurp

 

[Beef Invictus]

What universe do you live in? CBJ's GM is worse than Fletcher.
This is the guy who starts a rebuild by trading Seth Jones, then trades for Voracek and signs JG and Gudbranson.
Doesn't know if he's coming or going.

Holy shit wait until you hear about Chuck Fletcher.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Voracek was luck, he was worse than Atkinson last season, injured this season and would have been an $8.25M albatross if he was less susceptible to concussions.

Can't credit or blame GMs for post-deal good or bad luck.

My point was his moves were an obvious sign he has no long-term strategy, just a bunch of knee jerk moves.

Fletcher has no long-term strategy and runs on knee jerking, and he's a worse talent evaluator.

 

[Curufinwe]

Voracek was luck, he was worse than Atkinson last season

He outscored Atkinson 62 points to 50, and is already off the CBJ cap for the measly cost of a 6th round pick.

Meanwhile the Flyers PP has been the very worst in the league since Fletcher traded him without adding anyone who could perform his role.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

John Tortorella, the man who controls the roster, failed to trade JVR today.

 

[deadhead]

I'm sure Torts has distanced himself as far as possible from Fletcher.
Note he called Briere "brilliant," Fletcher, radio silence.

He's become aware how dysfunctional the organization has become.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

I'm sure Torts has distanced himself as far as possible from Fletcher.
Note he called Briere "brilliant," Fletcher, radio silence.

He's become aware how dysfunctional the organization has become.

He said yesterday that he, Fletcher, and Scott are on the same page…

I’m sure that will be discounted as coach speak though.

 

[Striiker]

F*** this guy

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

F*** this guy

Torts just keeps distancing himself from Chuck.

 

[Striiker]

Torts just keeps distancing himself from Chuck.

You can tell they hate each other and don’t see eye to eye on anything.

The air is thick with tension due to the power struggle.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

You can tell they hate each other and don’t see eye to eye on anything.

The air is thick with tension due to the power struggle.

And due to the sexual tension.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It's always fun watching the fantasies deflate like a drying flan.

 

[deadhead]

Yes, because you always throw a dying man under the bus.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yes, because you always throw a dying man under the bus.

That's all you're going to offer after all your fantasies of a Tortorella/Briere coup divined out of thin air evaporated?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I’ve got no problem with deadhead, but his storylines about Holmgren being in charge after he was forced out, about a rift between Torts & Fletcher… a lot of gap filling with folklore.

 

[kudymen]

I am not going to judge John Tortorella until the date that is Dec 7th + 289 games

 

[deadhead]

He said yesterday that he, Fletcher, and Scott are on the same page…

I’m sure that will be discounted as coach speak though.

The only way I'll believe they're on the same page is when Scott comes out and says we screwed up and learned our lesson, we're going to listen to John and commit to rebuilding this team the right way.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The only way I'll believe they're on the same page is when Scott comes out and says we screwed up and learned our lesson, we're going to listen to John and commit to rebuilding this team the right way.

You don't have a good understanding of Tortorella. He knows his role in the power structure. He does as he's told. That's why we got Braun on the wing.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

The only way I'll believe they're on the same page is when Scott comes out and says we screwed up and learned our lesson, we're going to listen to John and commit to rebuilding this team the right way.

Dave Scott doesn’t talk. He’s been put in front of cameras like twice in the last five years.