Again, why is it about “winning” a discussion with you? How does someone “win” anything that has to do with opinions? I’m happy to hear details about why Tavares would be the 2C, though I’m not satisfied with the only reason so far being his previous 12 years. Do those years matter? Absolutely, are they the only thing that matters? Of course not. But rather than bring anything to the conversation you’re content on just telling people their wrong and that they’re not “winning” when they’re not trying to win. But I guess that’s not what someone that is upset would do.