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Is it really Steven's though. It's starting to feel more and more like a lot of the players either just suck or don't give a f***.
 
Speaking of launching into the sun...

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WhatTheFox said:
Is it really Steven's though. It's starting to feel more and more like a lot of the players either just suck or don't give a ****.
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You can't fire all the players that are just going through the motions and enjoying the Manhattan Beach Project. You can however bring in a coach who doesn't take orders from the players despite the locker room thinking they are still former champions and can just show up and play. It's time for bag skates, it's time for scratches of top 6 players, it's time for when asked how the team played after the game names are dropped and the coach flat out says the team sucked. It's too easy to play in LA, no press, no pressure, a players coach, what is motivating these players?
 
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The Tikkanen said:
You can't fire all the players that are just going through the motions and enjoying the Manhattan Beach Project. You can however bring in a coach who doesn't take orders from the players despite the locker room thinking they are still former champions and can just show up and play. It's time for bag skates, it's time for scratches of top 6 players, it's time for when asked how the team played after the game names are dropped and the coach flat out says the team sucked. It's too easy to play in LA, no press, no pressure, a players coach, what is motivating these players?
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They're just going to lock the next guy out of the room with trash cans again.
 
I think it will be interesting to see what happens either way,

If Stevens is fired, Blake is admitting that he screwed up by hiring him last year (I think he had to regardless with what LA had done to Stevens years previously, but that's another story)

If Stevens isn't fired and say Pearson/Toffoli is traded or anyone from the roster is traded, does that signify that Blake was wrong in thinking the roster was "fine" or "contending"

Either way it seems like Blake is in a no-win situation.
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
I think it will be interesting to see what happens either way,

If Stevens is fired, Blake is admitting that he screwed up by hiring him last year (I think he had to regardless with what LA had done to Stevens years previously, but that's another story)

If Stevens isn't fired and say Pearson/Toffoli is traded or anyone from the roster is traded, does that signify that Blake was wrong in thinking the roster was "fine" or "contending"

Either way it seems like Blake is in a no-win situation.
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Considering Luc wrote a letter about how they have the core to make this happen, my guess is Blake will be forced to have Stevens fall on the sword, but I think it's only part of the problem.
 
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Any insubordination shown to Stevens, or the next coach by these players should not be tolerated.
 
GoldenBearHockey said:
I think it will be interesting to see what happens either way,

If Stevens is fired, Blake is admitting that he screwed up by hiring him last year (I think he had to regardless with what LA had done to Stevens years previously, but that's another story)

If Stevens isn't fired and say Pearson/Toffoli is traded or anyone from the roster is traded, does that signify that Blake was wrong in thinking the roster was "fine" or "contending"

Either way it seems like Blake is in a no-win situation.
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That's just the GM position. The buck stops there. In the end, the team is going to be due for a course correction soon so it is up to Blake to make a move. We'll see.
 
Telos said:
That's just the GM position. The buck stops there. In the end, the team is going to be due for a course correction soon so it is up to Blake to make a move. We'll see.
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Oh I agree, it's just gonna be interesting to see what he does, self-preserve, or the right thing if they are mutually exclusive
 
I dunno. I am all for a nuderection but I would keep Luc and Blakey. Loyalty is an important thing to display. Sure there are lines to be drawn but we have lived in the GM revolving door franchise status forever and I for one think that so far RB has done a very good job at the draft table anyways (and crew) so I would give him more time. Luc should just be given the honorary lifetime president award and given time to work himself out of a job.

I know we are off to a rough start but I still believe that this very crew has all it needs to win another cup or at least the players that we need to win another cup. I am concerned but not panicked.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I mean, that's what, three press conferences in a row where Stevens said "I don't know what the problem is?"

Jesus ****ing christ if I EVER said that ONCE as an employee in my past careers
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That's what bothers me when people are saying that this is a 50/50 problem with players and staff.

If your coach is saying that then that shit trickles down easily.
 
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Sol said:
That's what bothers me when people are saying that this is a 50/50 problem with players and staff.

If your coach is saying that then that **** trickles down easily.
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There's also that and apparently now the previous rift between him and Doughty appears to have opened back up with him subtly calling out the team's effort and Doughty's essential f*** you we're trying, your system is broken right back.

Stevens continually saying I don't know, it's the players' effort and execution may even be true (I disagree) but that's still something you don't continually go to in public. Everything would be fine if everyone just listened to me while the other side is saying about the opposite tells me everything I need to know about this team's confidence, fragility, cohesiveness right now and it starts at the top with a lack of vision and identity.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
There's also that and apparently now the previous rift between him and Doughty appears to have opened back up with him subtly calling out the team's effort and Doughty's essential **** you we're trying, your system is broken right back.

Stevens continually saying I don't know, it's the players' effort and execution may even be true (I disagree) but that's still something you don't continually go to in public.
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Wait where have you seen that reported rift between him and Doughty?

For sure, I get that, but if he's saying that in public you can only wonder how he is in the locker room.
 
Does anyone really believe Doughty has lost his confidence? I think it's just a quote to add further heat to the coaching position hot seat Stevens is experiencing.
 
KINGS17 said:
Does anyone really believe Doughty has lost his confidence? I think it's just a quote to add further heat to the coaching position hot seat Stevens is experiencing.
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All the confidence in the world to take advantage of Robitaille and Blake.
 
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