Archijerej
Registered User
Provided he can be a RD partner for Romanov (reportedly he can) he fills a need.
That's assuming Chiarot is coming back to pair up with Weber. He shouldn't, but he will.
Player Discussion John Merrill: a.k.a. Joe Dirt, a.k.a. Letterkenny Extra Edition
- Thread starter Adam Michaels
- Start date
-
Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates
- Status
That's assuming Chiarot is coming back to pair up with Weber. He shouldn't, but he will.
- Jun 24, 2012
- 86,530
- 161,421
« The Canadiens feel » — is that Arpon’s conclusion or does he have someone from the Habs affirming it? Obviously, we can all tell that the Habs’ D-corps favors shutdown types, but what really intrigues me is the rationale behind it. I had never seen it explained quite as clearly until now.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
Registered User
That was 1 of the worst pair of dman in the league before his injury.
This is gonna be good.
MarkovsKnee
Global Moderator
Basically, anything below the line is bad. Anything above it is good.
The first 3 bars are related to offensive contribution (it's bad - he doesn't do much offensively).
The last 2 bars show his defensive contribution for goals against (it's good - he doesn't get scored on much).
It also shows that he's better than Savard defensively, but a bit worse offensively. Savard went for a 1st, 3rd & 4th.
We got Merrill for a 5th.
MarkovsKnee
Global Moderator
More like help the pk.
Our QBs are forwards: KK & Drouin with Weber/Petry setup as shooters.
HabsWhiteKnightLOL
Registered User
Mete was not playing on the PK , so pretty much Merrill won't do that much.
Archijerej
Registered User
Good question.
I think, ever since Chiarot-Weber became a fixture and after they went out and got Edmundson, the trend is quite clear. I would imagine Basu has got some confirmation from inside sources, he's quite close to the team. Also, Ducharmes' emphasis on puck support can also serve as an indication of their thought process.
I don't think it will work. Our forward group is better that it was two seasons ago, but it's different now. They seem to expect that every line is going to be able to play like Tatar-Danault-Gallagher.
Last edited:
dinodebino
Registered User
- Sep 27, 2017
- 16,528
- 30,121
Yesss, thanks for the dummying down.
Merrill would be one of the best PKer in the entire Habs D corps based on his stats while playing in the team with the worst PK of the entire league (Devils)...
But then Armia, and Anderson have better PK stats than the people who play the PK in the Habs and Julien didn't even have Armia on it at the start of the season (before his concussion) and Anderson played 3 minutes of it all season.
It's like if the PK was setup to be terrible and is purposely the main reasons why the Habs lose games...
I like the trade. Looks like he will be used on PK and in shutdown mode. If he is effective at shot suppression, then I don’t see the problem since the Habs draw a lot of penalties. Would I like a #1 PMD? Sure. But I also want good PKers who can give out current puck movers a rest.
Last edited:
dinodebino
Registered User
- Sep 27, 2017
- 16,528
- 30,121
Yeah, his franco counterpart, Guy Boucher, doesn't believe in this system. He has repeated that it's easy to contain.
If I'm not mistaken, that was the system that Martin used to employ, where quick passes go out of the zone faster than a skating body.
Archijerej
Registered User
Yeah. We were breaking out as a tight group under Martin.
I think you have to have the right forwards for this to work, especially centers. Danault has the motor and endurance to cover large spaces quickly, so he can be down there regularly to provide close support, but I don't think our other centers can execute this. I mean, Suzuki is puking his lungs out already.
Then there's opponents' adjusting, so you have to have the capability for your defencemen to beat a forechecker or make a longer pass accurately. Theoretically, the Edmundson-Petry and Romanov-Merrill pairings have some balance, but it's certainly lacking on Chiarot-Weber pairing.
Also, we don't seem to be aiming at preserving our fowards' energy by employing a more deliberate o-zone tactics. It's the same volume shooting/puck retrieval as previously. So, our forwards are expected to:
- apply a high amount of pressure on the forecheck.
- constantly reload to provide cover for this forecheck and allow the defencemen to step up into NZ
- provide close puck support on the breakouts and in the NZ.
- constantly battle for tips and rebounds off point shots and retrieve pucks aggressively after our defencemen got rid of it in a hurry in the o-zone.
I think we need a team of 12 Lehkonens.
Last edited:
What's the point of this part? What does it have to do with anything related to coaching strategy? Or maybe you're just looking for opportunities to show off your bigotry?
Archijerej
Registered User
I predict he will be equally ineffective as Weber, Edmundson and Chiarot. The PK will not improve without a coaching change. It’s the same issue as with Muller and the PP.
I didn’t read it that way. John Lu is an anglophone journalist, so his franco counterpart said x. The content of the OP’s post even implied he agreed with Guy Boucher‘s opinion: that Ducharm’s strategy is easy to beat.
LaP
Registered User
I hate this system with a passion. I call it the Jacques Martin's special. It simply is not effective against good teams. It requires you to make 4-5 perfect passes before reaching the opposing team's net or you lose momentum. It usually leads to a bunch of peripheral shots. It's super hard to implement if you have a good team cause skilled players don't like to make a bunch of useless passes. It usually work only if you have the best goalie in the league (Buffalo when Hasek was there) cause often the opposing team will feel like they have to push harder to score and will take chances offensively which will open the ice in the neutral zone but then another better system would work too in this situation.
Nice, Joe Dirt
So this means no more Mete & no more Kulak right?
All hail Joe Dirt
LaP
Registered User
The first requirement for Martin’s system is the ability to skate. Because although he liked a tightly packed group they all had to arrive at the right spots as a 5 man group in all three zones. Not a chance in hell this can work up and down the rink with our roster.
Martin used that system because the team didn't have many PMD on the backend. Markov was often injured and Subban was still green. The Wiz only came near the deadline.The first requirement for Martin’s system is the ability to skate. Because although he liked a tightly packed group they all had to arrive at the right spots as a 5 man group in all three zones. Not a chance in hell this can work up and down the rink with our roster.
dinodebino
Registered User
- Sep 27, 2017
- 16,528
- 30,121
LOL my bigotry. Tu cibles le mauvais bonhomme.
Ducharme's counterpart. I should have indeed taken out the franco. But it was early this morning. My bad. I wanted to give out the angle that even his 'local' counterparts dispute his methods. But I choose the wrong angle. I apologize to all.
Last edited:
dinodebino
Registered User
- Sep 27, 2017
- 16,528
- 30,121
He's not wrong. I do believe he's wrong about the 'strong core pieces', though. I think he should have phrased it 'aging core pieces'.
- Status
