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Value of: John Gibson
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AddyTheWrath
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I would swap Bourgault for Holloway since he matches both the ducks/oilers timeline a bit better. Both are great prospects.
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Name your price that isn't Hughes, Hischier, Bratt, Mercer.
Everything else is available for Gibson. You want a Hamilton? I'll give you a Hamilton.
Everything else is available for Gibson. You want a Hamilton? I'll give you a Hamilton.
A1LeafNation
Good, is simply not good enough!
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A1LeafNation
Good, is simply not good enough!
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If the centerpiece is another goalie then the Ducks have no reason to make the trade.
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I disagree. If the Ducks get a competent goaltender who is younger than Gibson then I think they could work with that.
Also, I don't think Samsonov would be the centerpiece, the ++ would.
KevinRedkey
12/18/23 and beyond!
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They have a competent NHL goalie in Stolarz and they have the heir apparent in Dostal. There is no need for a goalie to be the centerpiece. They are better off just keeping Gibson.
The Caps dont have anything that would really be the centerpiece for me. Lapierre + 1st + Samsonov? Maybe if the 1st if unprotected. Even then, I feel like Edmonton could offer a better centerpiece like Holloway.
Give in to temptation.
SDBondra
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Samsonov+Kempny+Hagelin+Alexeyev/Johansen/AJF/Leason/1st
It could be really tough one to pull off unless Anaheim is into our prospects not named Lapierre or McMichael and maybe Protas.
Maybe the Caps include those of Anaheim retains.
Personally I’d rather not trade Eller but other fans might disagree.
KevinRedkey
12/18/23 and beyond!
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Boucher (10th overall last year)
Brannstrom
Jarventie
~39th overall
Drawback: Matt Murray is included too
Brannstrom
Jarventie
~39th overall
Drawback: Matt Murray is included too
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How about your 1st instead of Boucher. Right now it’s 7th overall. It’s only a difference between 7 and 10 right
On a serious note though, if the Ducks are taking back Matt Murray then this isn’t even close for me.
That’s a 6mil + cap dump for 2 more years is something no one is going to touch.
KevinRedkey
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How about your 1st instead of Boucher. Right now it’s 7th overall. It’s only a difference between 7 and 10 right
On a serious note though, if the Ducks are taking back Matt Murray then this isn’t even close for me.
That’s a 6mil + cap dump for 2 more years is something no one is going to touch.
If the Ducks are trading Gibson and going full rebuild, why would taking back Murray even matter?
As for the 7th overall... Nah
From the leafs id go all in on Lindholm and Gibson if we knew we could resign Lindholm.
To
Toronto
Gibson
Lindholm
To
Anaheim
Sandin
Knies
2022 1st
2023 1st
2024 2nd
Kerfoot
Mrazek
To
Toronto
Gibson
Lindholm
To
Anaheim
Sandin
Knies
2022 1st
2023 1st
2024 2nd
Kerfoot
Mrazek
Terrible offer. So the Leafs add $11.6M to the salary cap and move out only $8.4M. Cap doesnt work. On top of it, you take the two best players for the Ducks in exchange you offer spare parts and Sandin. History has shown in years past in order for the Leafs to dump salary, they have had to include a 1st round pick (Marleau). So one first is the cost just get the Ducks to take Kerfoot, who they have no use for or want. Mrazek is still signed for another 2 years after this one and is not a replacement for Gibson. Seriously the offer you put forward is like Duck fans making up an offer of:
To Ducks
Matthews
Marner
To Leafs
2022 1st
2023 1st
2024 2nd
Zellwenger
Perrault
Steel
Stolarz
(Not a serious offer, but comparing a two best players for spare parts trade)
That would be a similar two best players for picks and spare parts. The only difference is the Ducks picks would probably be much higher then the Leafs picks. If you want Gibson and Lindholm both, you are looking at sending back Nylander at a starting point. Not only for value, but making the cap work.
By that logic why dont you just send us all of your cap dumps. We are here to help you after all....
It isn't that taking Murray would not be possible for the Ducks, it's that the value in your offer is not good and it is TERRIBLE when you take into account that the Ducks would be taking one of the biggest cap dumps in recent memory.
Actually has there ever been a cap dump that large? 6.25 mil cap hit for 2 more years, and 15 million due in salary in those 2 years.
If the Ducks are trading Gibson and taking back Murray then your offer is laughable.
Not to get too deep into this, but I don't actually think their offer was that bad.
If the Ducks trade Gibson and Lindholm it is basically forcing a rebuild and the ask would be futures, which that is. Your comparison is futures to a team trying to win.
