Value of: John Gibson

[KevinRedkey]

Gibson
Rakell
Lindholm

Oilers send the farm. Lol

 

[Just a Fan]

Kerfoot+Holl+Mrazek+3rd, before some leaf homer offers similarly.

How much do Leaf’s fans pay you for the rental space in your head?

 

[Just a Fan]

Posted this offer on the Oilers board:

1st + Holloway + Skinner

Would this be enough for Anaheim to deal him to a divisional rival?

Koskinen would have to go back for cap but his deal expires at the end of this year.

That seems like a lot to give up for a goalie.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

That seems like a lot to give up for a goalie.

A late 1st
A okay to solid goalie prospect
A good prospect
A cap dump ?

are you just expecting Anaheim to give up their best player for nothing ? Specially to a division rival

 

[Gliff]

Gibson
Rakell
Lindholm

Oilers send the farm. Lol

Is that even possible even if the Ducks retain 50% on Lindholm and Rakell?

 

[KevinRedkey]

Is that even possible even if the Ducks retain 50% on Lindholm and Rakell?

If they retained and took on Koskinen and/or Barrie, I think they could make it work.

No idea what the Ducks would want in return that would be a realistic ask, but man oh man the Oilers would be the favourites to win the cup I would think.

Edit: I'll do the math. Gimme a few mins
See below

Koskinen - 4.500
Barrie - 4.500
Turris - 1.650
Total: 10.650

Gibson - 6.400
Lindholm @50% - 2.603
Rakell @50% - 1.895
Total: 10.898

There are many other options once value is considered (like sending Yamamoto to the Ducks for example), but this is one way the cap would work.

Please note I am not "proposing" this as a trade. Obviously the Oilers add BIG time. This was just to see if they could make the cap work, that's all.

 

[Just a Fan]

A late 1st
A okay to solid goalie prospect
A good prospect
A cap dump ?

are you just expecting Anaheim to give up their best player for nothing ? Specially to a division rival

Halloway is not just “a good prospect”. And Koskinen for 3 months is hardly an issue.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Halloway is not just “a good prospect”. And Koskinen for 3 months is hardly an issue.

We’re not taking koskinen for anything other than to facilitate the trade… he’s a - value to us.

and are we going to argue good prospect as talking down on Holloway? He’s in a similar range of perreault and Tracey

but if it makes you feel better we can add steel

 

[bsu]

Nvm lock this up I rather keep him and let him expire than trade for him this shit... Especially in the divison.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Easy no....Come back to earth when u do give us a call...All honesty why would u trade him ....

Yeah Holtz + the 1st would be too much. If we're moving Gibson I'd aim for the Schneider deal as a comparable + a little extra. Would Wood + the 1st (top 3 protected) be too much?

 

[Perratrooper]

What are the Ducks biggest needs? I could see Colorado being interested even with Keumper playing well of late.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Bouchard
Holloway
Unprotected 1st
Skinner

For

Gibson

 

[ManByng]

Posted this offer on the Oilers board:

1st + Holloway + Skinner

Would this be enough for Anaheim to deal him to a divisional rival?

Koskinen would have to go back for cap but his deal expires at the end of this year.

too much !!

 

[ManByng]

Bouchard
Holloway
Unprotected 1st
Skinner

For

Gibson

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

too much !!

What do you expect to pay?
Anything less than that offer would be offensive

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

What are the Ducks biggest needs? I could see Colorado being interested even with Keumper playing well of late.

Rhd prob biggest need, then top 6 forwards

 

[Just a Fan]

Bouchard
Holloway
Unprotected 1st
Skinner

For

Gibson

Well, this seems totally based in reality....lol

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Bouchard
Holloway
Unprotected 1st
Skinner

For

Gibson

Take off 1 of Holloway or Bouchard and it makes sense

 

[ManByng]

What do you expect to pay?
Anything less than that offer would be offensive

With the Oilers needing to get to the playoffs and hopefully get past the 1st round, they won’t be giving up core players to get Gibson if he were to become available. Guys like Skinner, Broberg and the Oilers 1st rounder would realistically be the starting point.

 

[Eggtimer]

I’d say start with Holtz & unprotected 2022 1st?

Ya that puts us out

 

[TGWL]

I’d say start with Holtz & unprotected 2022 1st?

You know Gibson hasn't had good numbers in like 5-6 years, right?

I know, "but look at the team." Still, asking for an unprotected first on a bottom team seems about 2x the overpayment.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

You know Gibson hasn't had good numbers in like 5-6 years, right?

I know, "but look at the team." Still, asking for an unprotected first on a bottom team seems about 2x the overpayment.

It's bad enough when people just base their opinions only from stats, but couldn't you at least look at the stats before doing so? It definitely has not been "5-6 years" of bad numbers. Three down seasons behind an awful team.

The talent is undeniable to those who actually watch the games. There isn't a goalie in the league who could prop up the rosters that the Ducks have been icing the past three or four years. It's clear that he both mentally and physically wears down, and just doesn't always have the motivation to try and make a 5-1 loss into a 2-1 loss.

Up until the point that the Ducks cratered, Gibson had some of the best career numbers of all time. His talent hasn't gone anywhere, there shouldn't be much doubt about his ability to perform in front of a good team.

 

[TGWL]

It's bad enough when people just base their opinions only from stats, but couldn't you at least look at the stats before doing so? It definitely has not been "5-6 years" of bad numbers. Three down seasons behind an awful team.

The talent is undeniable to those who actually watch the games. There isn't a goalie in the league who could prop up the rosters that the Ducks have been icing the past three or four years. It's clear that he both mentally and physically wears down, and just doesn't always have the motivation to try and make a 5-1 loss into a 2-1 loss.

Up until the point that the Ducks cratered, Gibson had some of the best career numbers of all time. His talent hasn't gone anywhere, there shouldn't be much doubt about his ability to perform in front of a good team.

Ok, I just looked it up and it's been 4 as I'm including this season. So, no, not 3, and not 5-6. The 5th season his goals against weren't what you expect from him but his save percentage was really strong, so you're right that the 5th season shouldn't count against him being a down season. And I get that the team in front of him wasn't strong, but the unprotected 1st ask from a bottom team is a really big overpayment. He's at 0 goals saved above expected this season. How's that even possible from Gibson?

 

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