WTFMAN99
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He’s a selke level machine who has a 40 goal season in him. At his cap hit his value is ridiculous.
I like the player a lot but let's see him hit 30 first.
He’s a selke level machine who has a 40 goal season in him. At his cap hit his value is ridiculous.
He hasn't been pacing for 30+ in any season until the current season (which is only 28 games so far). we all love him but at least get ur facts straight.Go look at his career progression, it is incredibly steady and he’s been pacing for 30+ for several years now while adding more and more to his game each season. But the goals don’t really matter compared to everything else he brings.
He won’t be made available so there’s not much to talk about related to him on this forum.
Besides him not being available and Minnesota not trading him. The guy you mentioned was probably exaggerating to say he’s not available. LolHe hasn't been pacing for 30+ in any season until the current season (which is only 28 games so far). we all love him but at least get ur facts straight.
And to the guy saying it would be makar+ for jee+ you've gotten too excited by everyone pumping ek. Take a breath.
I'd absolutely love him and would pay a ton to have him on vancouver but people are winding themselves up haha
He hasn't been pacing for 30+ in any season until the current season (which is only 28 games so far). we all love him but at least get ur facts straight.
It depends what splits you use, I specifically didn't say seasons, but his play level on the whole when healthy has been absolutely rock solid for 3+ years now. Guy has played through some pretty significant injuries over the past three years along with some other injured and less than skilled players, and he still wins every single match-up he plays.He hasn't been pacing for 30+ in any season until the current season (which is only 28 games so far). we all love him but at least get ur facts straight.
And to the guy saying it would be makar+ for jee+ you've gotten too excited by everyone pumping ek. Take a breath.
I'd absolutely love him and would pay a ton to have him on vancouver but people are winding themselves up haha
That's fine but he specifically said 30+ for several seasons, which is untrue, and more than 25.He’s paced for 25 + every season of the last 4. Wild fans who watch him every night know that’s he’s done that with Foligno and Greenway as his most common linemates and with Kaprizov getting all the offensive zone starts etc. He’s much better than you think
I mean, he's a great player, i agree with that. But what you said is untrue.It depends what splits you use, I specifically didn't say seasons, but his play level on the whole when healthy has been absolutely rock solid for 3+ years now. Guy has played through some pretty significant injuries over the past three years along with some other injured and less than skilled players, and he still wins every single match-up he plays.
I don't generally make claims to his points, anyone who knows me as a poster knows I care very little for points as an indicator of ability in general. He scores all his goals net front, so his goals are just a reflection of how the team uses him for that, but he is an unrelenting force over every other foot of the ice too. He is in his prime and flourishing, unless a bonafide superstar is coming back the other way, there is zero reason for the Wild to move him.
No, my statement is still true, you are correct that your interpretation of it is untrue, just a misunderstanding of my meaning. To clarify, for significant stretches over the past 3 years JEE has paced for over 30 goals. It is in no way surprising to me to see him have a scoring bump, if you look through the “who is this seasons Kreider” thread you will see me saying JEE.That's fine but he specifically said 30+ for several seasons, which is untrue, and more than 25.
I mean, he's a great player, i agree with that. But what you said is untrue.
He’s paced for 25 + every season of the last 4. Wild fans who watch him every night know that’s he’s done that with Foligno and Greenway as his most common linemates and with Kaprizov getting all the offensive zone starts etc. He’s much better than you think
Woah.My starting offer would be-
Fantilli and Jiricek for Joel EK but I’m assuming the wild would ask for another couple 1sts on top of that and I’d hang up the phone.
Crazy how tough it is to trade for a very good player when you have no cap space or assetsYa the Avs don't have a lot of available assets
If Girard was playing i'd include Byram, but with the uncertainty around him the Avs won't include him. I'm sure the Avs would be outbid (ignoring the divisional rivalry) but not much other quality pieces we could offer.
He hasn't been pacing for 30+ in any season until the current season (which is only 28 games so far). we all love him but at least get ur facts straight.
And to the guy saying it would be makar+ for jee+ you've gotten too excited by everyone pumping ek. Take a breath.
I'd absolutely love him and would pay a ton to have him on vancouver but people are winding themselves up haha
lol dude eriksson ek isn’t available, so no. Cap dump o & for the millionth time, Minnesota doesn’t need a winger or prospect who would be way below in their prospects pool. That 1st is nothing. Besides eriksson ek not being available, we aren’t accepting any wingersKuzmenko, Lekkerimaki, 2024 1st, and another prospect for Ek is probably what I’d be willing to give up for him.
My starting offer would be-
Fantilli and Jiricek for Joel EK but I’m assuming the wild would ask for another couple 1sts on top of that and I’d hang up the phone.
Is this for real?He's not available! Wild aren't rebuilding or reloading! They have a mandate to make playoff from their owner. Besides Minnesota isn't trading the only good C , and only good young stud two way C they have, You don't have a C like Eriksson Ek on great contract to offer a Minnesota team loaded on Winger prospect, D prospects, and at least two or three good C prospect. So no
Eriksson Ek won't be available when he wasn't for eichel.
The wild havent had a player in the history of their franchise who could bring Makar backI mean injuries withstanding, Ek has been hovering around the upper 20 goals for a while. He had 19 in 56, 26 in 77 and 23 in 78. It wouldn't be a surprise if he was pacing for around 30 goals a season before his injuries. The fact that he's done that and anchoring the 2nd/3rd line is outstanding. Hell his 19 in 56 he didn't see much PP time.
Makar is making 9 million a season. Not a lot of teams can fit him in. More so, I'm saying it as hyperbole partly because a) Colorado is asking and b) outside of Makar, Colorado really doesn't have anyone that Minnesota wants, can fit under their cap without a huge issue or is in their age frame. More so, Minnesota doesn't really want to trade to one of their biggest rivals.
Crazy as it sounds.. Eriksson-Ek plus for Makar plus.
Eriksson-Ek and Lambos for Makar and Ritchie?
Is this for real?
Him not being available for Eichel explains the state of Minnesota Wild pretty well
Had a chance to add a top 10C in his prime on a great deal and passed to keep Mikko Koivu 2.0
Eichel + Kaprizov would have been the best 1-2 duo the Wild ever had
The wild havent had a player in the history of their franchise who could bring Makar back
You can add the North Stars and they still don't
Makar is a top 15 asset maybe ever. He's the only D who can challange Bourque/Harvey/Lidstrom for #2 behind Orr and he's on a great deal
Sean Couterier from 2018 - 2021 was basically was Ek is now.
70-75 pt, great 2-way C (won a selke) was on a great deal back then too.
He wasn't worth anywhere near a generational D-man though
Is Minnesota even trying to be competitive? The roster they have right now is bottom 10 level.Everyone and their mother knows Ek isn't worth Makar, but he's arguably the most important skater the Wild have, and they have less than zero interest in moving him. So when the question is "what would it take?". The answer isn't going to be "fair value".
It's essentially the same roster that had 113 and 103 points the past two years, plus Faber and Rossi.Is Minnesota even trying to be competitive? The roster they have right now is bottom 10 level.
Would a team be better off with one Mathews, or two JEE's? Mathew's cap hit is about the same.Can I give you Matthews for Fantilli and Jiricek?
I feel like most fans hold Joel EK value far higher then Mathews due to contract. Could be wrong.Can I give you Matthews for Fantilli and Jiricek?
Is Minnesota even trying to be competitive? The roster they have right now is bottom 10 level.