Player Discussion Jimmy Hayes II

[Glove Malfunction]

Keeping a player as bad as Hayes on the team because of what Vegas might do would be pretty ineffective management.

Bingo! or...Blackjack!

 

[mikelvl]

At this point, Jimmy is still on the team because his teammates really like him and he's a good dude. He will last this year, then get waived and spend next season in Providence, playing out his contract.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

No No No he didn't...he looked extremely slow and ineffective breaking multiple promising plays. It's painful watching. Vatrano can't arrive soon enough. What a difference Vatrano will make throughout the lineup.

I don't expect Vatrano to score at the prodigious rate he did in the A last year, but I at least expect him to bring more to the table than Hayes. (Damn, am I setting the bar low!)

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Agree 100%, Jimmy was an anchor on that line that succeeded despite Jimmy's slow uninspired play and and lack of winning puck battles. He needs to be waived and sent to the AHL. This will allow others a better probability of success (talking Spooner here at the 3rd line center position) by playing with better players.

While I agree that sending Hayes to Providence is the best thing for the team, moving him will have literally zero effect on how or where Spooner plays.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

While I agree that sending Hayes to Providence is the best thing for the team, moving him will have literally zero effect on how or where Spooner plays.

Saddling any center with Hayes brings them down, he simply does not contribute. If Claude keeps using Hayes then his line mates are essential handcuffed by his lack thereof (lack of scoring touch, lack of passing creativity, lack of hitting, lack of winning puck battles, lack of confidence). Set his line mates free by waiving him.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Although I agree the kid has stunk it up, he played a good game last night.

...

Relative to Jimmy Hayes, he played average.

Relative to expectations for a normal NHL player, he was as terrible as always.

 

[Dr Hook]

...

Relative to Jimmy Hayes, he played average.

Relative to expectations for a normal NHL player, he was as terrible as always.

That is where we are with Hayes, measuring his awfulness by his own standard of awfulness

 

[Glove Malfunction]

Saddling any center with Hayes brings them down, he simply does not contribute. If Claude keeps using Hayes then his line mates are essential handcuffed by his lack thereof (lack of scoring touch, lack of passing creativity, lack of hitting, lack of winning puck battles, lack of confidence). Set his line mates free by waiving him.

Except Spooner has played very, very little of this season with Hayes. Specious argument.

 

[toasterjam]

right before the first goal, in the habs zone, Jimmy got out worked/muscled by the 5'9 Paul Byron. Jimmy total non factor in goal...as usual.

Jimmy just played HIS game, getting out worked, plays dying when he touched it, losing puck battles. Slow.

ineffective in anything he tried to do.

I did see him complete a few passes and technically was a +1

so he did earn 1 gold star on his gold star chart he has hanging in his locker.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I truly believe that if Jimmy Hayes really cared, he would be better. The fact is he has a contract, and will get paid for the majority of if not all of that contract (will only lose money if he's bought out...which I doubt would happen given next year is his last year).

If Jimmy truly meant what he said over the summer, in that he wanted to contribute more and knew he needed to be better, he would be better. The fact is that he didn't work hard over the summer and came to camp betting (correctly) that he'd have a roster spot no matter how he performed.

Even with another player who has been ineffective more games than not this year in Beleskey, I can still point to numerous games where he was working his ass off even if it didn't spell success. Within Hayes' suckage and lack of talent is also a real aura of passiveness, complacency, and utter laziness. It pisses me off almost as much as management/the coaching staff choosing to let him play almost every night.

 

[EverettMike]

Alert the authorities, It appears as though Jimmy's mom hacked EverettMike's account.

Some people root for the heroes, some root for the villains, I root for the scenery.

 

[NDiesel]

I truly believe that if Jimmy Hayes really cared, he would be better. The fact is he has a contract, and will get paid for the majority of if not all of that contract (will only lose money if he's bought out...which I doubt would happen given next year is his last year).

If Jimmy truly meant what he said over the summer, in that he wanted to contribute more and knew he needed to be better, he would be better. The fact is that he didn't work hard over the summer and came to camp betting (correctly) that he'd have a roster spot no matter how he performed.

Even with another player who has been ineffective more games than not this year in Beleskey, I can still point to numerous games where he was working his ass off even if it didn't spell success. Within Hayes' suckage and lack of talent is also a real aura of passiveness, complacency, and utter laziness. It pisses me off almost as much as management/the coaching staff choosing to let him play almost every night.

Other people have commented on this - Hayes looks lanky and his stride looks weak. If he wanted to get better he easily could have hit the gym with his brother over the summer but seemingly did the bare minimum instead.

 

[DKH]

I truly believe that if Jimmy Hayes really cared, he would be better. The fact is he has a contract, and will get paid for the majority of if not all of that contract (will only lose money if he's bought out...which I doubt would happen given next year is his last year).

If Jimmy truly meant what he said over the summer, in that he wanted to contribute more and knew he needed to be better, he would be better. The fact is that he didn't work hard over the summer and came to camp betting (correctly) that he'd have a roster spot no matter how he performed.

Even with another player who has been ineffective more games than not this year in Beleskey, I can still point to numerous games where he was working his ass off even if it didn't spell success. Within Hayes' suckage and lack of talent is also a real aura of passiveness, complacency, and utter laziness. It pisses me off almost as much as management/the coaching staff choosing to let him play almost every night.

My take is he's marginally skilled and he's just so freaked out how it's gone he's a mess

On his best day going by his skating he's a bottom 6

It won't really matter soon - by April unless injuries players pile up he's gone

They took a shot it failed.

 

[toasterjam]

My take is he's marginally skilled and he's just so freaked out how it's gone he's a mess

On his best day going by his skating he's a bottom 6

It won't really matter soon - by April unless injuries players pile up he's gone

They took a shot it failed.

just sad we have to wait till April I guess to find someone...ANYONE that could replace what Jimmy has brought so far this season when we already know now that we took a shot and it failed.

I try and be patient...but don't think Hayes has earned any more patience with his play. He isnt playing good and things arent just not going his way, bad luck, snake bitten etc....he is just playing very bad, effort, strength, not even making good plays or getting good chances or providing any energy. I'm sure the mental stuff, this stretch of bad play doesnt help him break out of it either...so he shouldnt be on the roster...TODAY. Chalk it up as a mistake, send him to Providence and see if he finds his game there.

 

[World of Wardlow]

The problem I have with Jimmy is not his skill set, which he has very little of if any, it's more his lack of finishing his checks and showing his presence on the ice whether it's a hit, guarding the puck like Moore, or going into the dirty areas on a consistent basis.

 

[Fenian24]

The problem I have with Jimmy is not his skill set, which he has very little of if any, it's more his lack of finishing his checks and showing his presence on the ice whether it's a hit, guarding the puck like Moore, or going into the dirty areas on a consistent basis.

Anybody who qualified as an enforcer/goon would bring more offensive talent to the table than the big stiff. At least most guys who are in the NHL to fight or play physical know to go to the net and try for tips, rebounds, scrambles anything to score. If big, soft Jimmy did this he should be able to score through attrition considering the amount of ice time Claude gives him.

This failure needs to end now, they cannot continue to have a black hole that provides nothing among this group of forwards. Bury him in Providence, before Belesky and Vatrano return. It needed to be done weeks ago, with the offense a borderline disaster and every point valuable good guy Jimmy cannot be in the lineup any longer.

 

[ksp1957]

Anybody who qualified as an enforcer/goon would bring more offensive talent to the table than the big stiff. At least most guys who are in the NHL to fight or play physical know to go to the net and try for tips, rebounds, scrambles anything to score. If big, soft Jimmy did this he should be able to score through attrition considering the amount of ice time Claude gives him.

This failure needs to end now, they cannot continue to have a black hole that provides nothing among this group of forwards. Bury him in Providence, before Belesky and Vatrano return. It needed to be done weeks ago, with the offense a borderline disaster and every point valuable good guy Jimmy cannot be in the lineup any longer.

It's a good idea. I wonder if he would clear waivers.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

The problem I have with Jimmy is not his skill set, which he has very little of if any, it's more his lack of finishing his checks and showing his presence on the ice whether it's a hit, guarding the puck like Moore, or going into the dirty areas on a consistent basis.

Jimmy looks like a guy who is legitimately playing a game at a level above his reach. He'd be AT VERY BEST an average AHL player.

Just watch him on the ice. Sometimes, it looks like a little kid (other than his height) who can't keep up with the older kids. Things will be happening around him and he'll just start spinning his wheels, waving his stick wildly in the general vicinity of the puck, looking confused and overwhelmed. Part of me would feel bad for him if he wasn't getting paid 2.3 million to do it each year.

 

[Sheppy]

Jimmy Hayes to St Louis for Ryan Reaves.

add pieces as you would.

 

[Southiechickie]

I think Jimmy could use some of my ADD medicine!!
He will most certainly clear waivers, best thing for him is to spend some time in PVD and get his confidence back up. Compared to his brother, everyone knows whose better-just wish he's work out this summer mirrored his brothers.

 

[DitClapper]

 

[DominicT]

Bobby Mac mentioned this, not about Hayes specifically, but players on one way contracts. So I did some digging.

Jimmy Hayes would earn an extra $368,000 playing in the AHL over the NHL. I'm not sure how the Bruins would feel about paying that extra money to him.

#TheEffectsOfEscrow

#NoEscrowInTheAHL

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Jimmy Hayes to St Louis for Ryan Reaves.

add pieces as you would.

Throw in a first rounder and St. Louis takes it.

As far as I know, there's no market for useless players getting paid north of $2 million/year for another year after this one.

 

[missingchicklet]

Jimmy looks like a guy who is legitimately playing a game at a level above his reach. He'd be AT VERY BEST an average AHL player.

Just watch him on the ice. Sometimes, it looks like a little kid (other than his height) who can't keep up with the older kids. Things will be happening around him and he'll just start spinning his wheels, waving his stick wildly in the general vicinity of the puck, looking confused and overwhelmed. Part of me would feel bad for him if he wasn't getting paid 2.3 million to do it each year.

This is a really good description of Hayes. Every time I see him play I always think of the fat kid in elementary school gym class who is way behind the other kids in relay races and sprints. The fat kid tries, but is fat and slow and simply cannot keep up.

Last night Hayes, just as he has done all season, lost puck battle after puck battle. When is the last time anyone has seen Hayes consistently and cleanly win puck battles as a Bruin? The answer is never. He has crap for lower body strength as shown when he's battling along the boards. He has crap for hand-eye coordination and sense of positioning as show when he's involved in battling for the puck. He obviously has trouble scoring. He's a stride or two behind the play a lot of the time. When he tries to show toughness he is so worried about getting hit that he refuses to throw a punch and instead holds on to the other player for dear life. The NHL has a lot of parity, so every little edge you can get in the lineup can matter over the course of the season. Keeping Hayes in the lineup most nights, knowing full well of his ineffectiveness, is extremely stupid and incompetent.

 

[PB37]

He has lost all confidence with himself and does not belong on the team...and this is coming from someone who's been pulling for him since his BC days.