Aggie204
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Makes you think if Lambert had developed in the CHL we wouldn’t have had a chance at drafting him.
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Also makes you wonder what the quality of his guidance was for the last few years of his development. Jets are a team that understands player development.
Interesting point and underrated thought IMO. Puts into perspective how overrated CHL "stars" and how underrated players playing against grown men in Europe can be. Not saying that one development path is better than the other one or promises more chance of succeeding. On the other hand, it can also lead to a player being overrated because he has a very good but rather small sample size playing against grown men in Europe.
Seider should have been drafted higher in 2019. Stützle should probably have went 1st overall in his year. But since Laffy dominated the CHL .... no sniff.
1 year before the draft, during his first year on the Adler Mannheim DEL roster, I talked to Timmy at an event. I took a picture with him which I posted here but photoshopped Barney the dinosaur in instead of myself - some people might remember the picture. I told him, I'd only want to take a picture with him, not any other Adler Mannheim player. He was visibly surprised and asked me why that is and I answered, I only care about NHL talent players and he said thanks and yeah he hopes to be a 1st round pick. I asked him "what do you think you're gonna be drafted at?" and he was like he'd have "good chances to make the top 20, maybe he can even crack the top 10". I said "I expect you to be at least a top 10 big and if you ask me, you're going top 5 for sure" and he actually was like "oh wow really you think?"
It was honestly really cute to see, that he appreciated me predicting him to be a top 5 pick.
so yeah I think there is a slight bias towards "CHL stars" over "also amazing talents that also already successfully played against grown men" in the NHL draft. It's not a big thing but it probably leads to what the quoted post said - if Lambert would have rocked the CHL, no way he falls to us. Could a similar thing be said about Kyle Connor? Maybe.
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Doesn't look like the Badgers got smoked but since the Jets recently signed Evan Cormier and it looks like North Bay's Dom DiVincentiis is having an outstanding season amongst the Jets' draft picks it doesn't seem likely.
Moe has the option to take a fifth year of college hockey while taking graduate classes a la Dylan St. Cyr and that seems more likely to happen.
Europe and minor pro might also be options.
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Correct, didn’t get smoked but I thought for sure they were going to be.
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Dom is special. Been watching the past two season the Jets got themselves a good one
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Have to admit, my interest in this prospect has been dampened quite a bit since he re-signed in the KHL.
Aggie204
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IIRC he said he was playing out his last contract, and would immediately come over to North America. Maybe Rashevsky spoke to the Jets and didn’t agree with his development path. Just spitballing here.
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Mine hasn’t, he has the potential to round into a star forward in the KHL the next 2 years. That’s amazing value from a 5th round pick! When he comes over a finished product he’ll provide an immediate boost.
Yeah we hope he can translate like some of those other forwards that have come over in their mid 20's.
I remembered that one video to follow up on that just as random info haha. I get to know Adler Mannheim players because we do their Charity events. In this video, you can see Timmy Stützle and Elliott Friedman ride around our building, they strart basically next to the window of my office and at 0:26 they pass our front side. Most beautiful building in Mannheim. Thought it was funny that Stützle and Friedmann(!!!) rode past my office and I didn't even knew that at that point. How could I miss that
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Zhilkin with a shorthanded goal and two assists against his former team in a 4-1 win.
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The Hockey News Future Watch edition had the Jets’ prospects ranked as follows:
1 - Chaz Lucius (37 overall)
2 - Rutger McGroarty (57 overall)
3 - Brad Lambert (62 overall)
4 - Ville Heinola (71 overall)
5 - Nikita Chibrikov (82 overall)
6 - Elias Salomonsson
7 - Dmitri Rashevsky
8 - Declan Chisholm
9 - Fabian Wagner
10 - Danil Zhilkin
Overall rank was 17th.
1 - Chaz Lucius (37 overall)
2 - Rutger McGroarty (57 overall)
3 - Brad Lambert (62 overall)
4 - Ville Heinola (71 overall)
5 - Nikita Chibrikov (82 overall)
6 - Elias Salomonsson
7 - Dmitri Rashevsky
8 - Declan Chisholm
9 - Fabian Wagner
10 - Danil Zhilkin
Overall rank was 17th.
To add to this, here’s a brief synopsis of what they said about each.
1. Chaz Lucius: The Jets hope he can parlay a dazzling junior performance into being a standout scorer in the NHL. He’s always thinking one or two steps ahead of everyone at the junior level, the goal for him will be to translate this to pro.
2. Rutger McGroarty: The thing that makes us gush about Rutger is his intelligence. Whether he’s a scoring first-line winger or a checking third-line centre, McGroarty has the smarts to succeed. His skating needs to improve to find success at the next level, but his mind and hockey IQ compared to his peers puts him well ahead of the curve.
3. Brad Lambert: Once considered a potential top five pick in his draft class, Lambert fell and fell … right into the lap of the Winnipeg Jets. He has the ability to takeover games with his speed and skating, and now he must physically mature and learn how to process the North American north-south style of the game. And the Jets are all-in on helping the young Finn get there.
4. Ville Heinola: While his development has been incremental and gradual, he’s almost there now. It’s about fine-tuning for him. He’s had some NHL looks this year, but with a little more strength and a little more experience, he’ll be an NHL regular.
5. Nikita Chibrikov: Bouncing around leagues hasn’t helped his development. He needs to be stronger, and improve his skating and his shot. However, his vision, IQ, and passing is elite and is ready to be tested in the KHL.
6. Elias Salomonsson: The defenceman has had an impressive year; his elite skating gets him out of trouble and has helped fast-track his development.
7. Dmitry Rashevsky: Physical goal-scorer with great 1-on-1 skills and a nose for the net.
8. Declan Chisholm: Continues to showcase his offensive ability but needs some work in his own zone.
9. Fabian Wagner: A smart player who is reliable in all three zones, Wagner is a bit of a project to develop.
10. Danil Zhilkin: His offence has disappointed but he’s rounded out his game nicely in other areas.
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I don't know what they might have been expecting from a 3rd rd pick. Personally, I am quite impressed so far. His scoring tapered off a bit when he was traded, but it seems to have rebounded more recently.
I see him as potentially being that scoring 3C we have wanted forever. Only potential at this point of course, but promising.
I agree. The Hockey News has been kinda cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs for a while. They provide pretty generalized analysis and don’t follow the players too carefully I think.
They’ve been ragging on Chisholm’s defence in every prospect issue since we drafted him. It’s not his calling card, but his defence is fine.
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I have to agree somewhat with the hockey news. This season his scoring hasn’t increased very much from last season. Often there’s a big jump in the draft+1 scoring for prospects. His hasn’t jumped a whole lot and he’s played with better scorers this year than last.
I’m not concerned and I like him as a prospect but I think it’s fair to say that his scoring has been a little bit disappointing this year compared to last.
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Who said Ville Heinola can’t play defense? He’s leading the Moose with a +20 and the next closest is Harkins at +15. Nobody else is even close. Good to see!
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I don't think 3rd rd picks necessarily increase their scoring that much in D+1. The thing is that it HAS increased and the trade probably slowed him down for a while. Even Scheifele went from 1.13 ppg in D to 1.34 ppg in D+1. Zhilkin has gone from .83 ppg to .98 ppg. Look for a bigger step up next year.
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Yeah that and painting Chibrikov's skating as a weakness were both kind of confusing. Apart from that though the list and comments were decent enough. Kuzmin probably deserves a bit of love. Big fan of the most recent draft minus McGroarty. And that's not to say I don't like him I just feel like there were better options.
