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The difference between Bedard and Lambert is that the whole reason he was down there was because he wasn't having success vs grown men. Then all of a sudden he has success vs lesser competition... I just see it as a potential red flag

I'm one of Lambert's biggest fans on here (I was advocating for him on the opening roster ffs). But I'm just trying to be objective

Hopefully at the very least he's got some swagger back and he can take the steps needed to become a true impact player. We all agree the tools are there
You are right there is reason to be cynical especially in Wpg but also reason for optimism.
 
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Just trying to have a balanced, nuanced view on the kid. We all know how that goes over on the internet lol

you're making good arguments and we shouldn't start hyping Lambert after half a season with the Thunderbirds. It's always good to have a balancing voice of reason in those moments.

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Right after posting this, I stumbled upon the "Why did Michael Dal Colle bust?" thread on the mainboard and was like "yep, you never know what a hyped draft pick is going to be like". Dal Colle had every tool in the box to become a NHL regular, even the size was there and the looked like a sure thing at least 2nd line center to be. Was a fifth overall pick in his draft year.

 
you're making good arguments and we shouldn't start hyping Lambert after half a season with the Thunderbirds. It's always good to have a balancing voice of reason in those moments.

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Right after posting this, I stumbled upon the "Why did Michael Dal Colle bust?" thread on the mainboard and was like "yep, you never know what a hyped draft pick is going to be like". Dal Colle had every tool in the box to become a NHL regular, even the size was there and the looked like a sure thing at least 2nd line center to be. Was a fifth overall pick in his draft year.


The big problem with Dal Colle was he couldn't skate and wasn't physical. If he wasn't scoring what was he actually going to be good at?

But what I can't understand is why do we pick the outliers in a draft and not the consensus? Why look in the Dal Colle draft and compare him to Lambert when you can look in that same draft and find a bunch of guys who play a very similar game drafted in that first round

Here are some scout reports of other players in that draft

"A highly skilled player offensively. XXXXXXX skates very well, has impressive hands and is excellent at handling the puck at high speeds. Hockey sense is very impressive and he likes to shoot the puck a lot, but is also capable of delivering perfect passes. A very agile player that protects the puck well and skates hard in the offensive zone.
On the other hand, his defensive game needs some work. Not a selfish player, but at times he tends to hang onto the puck for too long, instead of making the easier play. Has the tools and skills to lead his team in all offensive aspects."

"XXXXXXX is an explosive player who can beat even the quickest defensemen wide with his speed. He plays on his off wing and creates chances with sharp cuts to the middle comple- mented by an explosive wrister. He’s equally good with the puck and can handle it both at top speed and in traffic.”

Couple of quick blurbs that sound a lot like our boy.

Here is one of Dal Colle

Oshawa’s prized sophomore forward will never be mistaken for a dynamic speedster, but Michael Dal Colle just continues to get things done. The 6-foot-2 forward is capable of playing both centre and the wing and possesses impressive puck protection skills and offensive zone creativity that project well on his ability to be a big-time producer at the next level. Dal Colle’s top-end speed is an area of continued improvement, but his elusiveness, stickhandling ability, and long reach create matchup problems for any OHL defenseman. Dal Colle has always been a dangerous goal scorer but has really become a great playmaker as he does a great job of finding open teammates and making some impressive feeds.

Reminds me more of Lowry then Lambert when Lowry was in the WHL except Lowry always had a physical element to his game which actually allowed him to stay in the NHL.
 
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Just trying to have a balanced, nuanced view on the kid. We all know how that goes over on the internet lol

It's definitely good to have some balanced views. Now that Cole is graduated I'd peg Lambert as having the highest ceiling of our forward prospects but it is also true that he's had a very uneven development track to date. He's had some great moments and some less then good moments.

I still maintain that if he's going to make it as a top 6 player then he needs a very careful and detailed development plan. We have seen what his game looks like when he's played up a level too quickly and what it looks like when his confidence is low.

I think the org is going to have to wait for him to excel at each step before moving him to the n3xt step.
 
Anyone that calls himself Superdeluxe can surely find the energy to keep his dedicated followers informed of their favorite son’s marvelous achievements. We are all counting on you SD!

I got the energy! I’m just going to be too wired to do anything other than that. It’s like when people start chants or other things, I’m too focused on the ice lol
 
The difference between Bedard and Lambert is that the whole reason he was down there was because he wasn't having success vs grown men. Then all of a sudden he has success vs lesser competition... I just see it as a potential red flag

I'm one of Lambert's biggest fans on here (I was advocating for him on the opening roster ffs). But I'm just trying to be objective

Hopefully at the very least he's got some swagger back and he can take the steps needed to become a true impact player. We all agree the tools are there

Well I will play a bit of devils advocate to your devils advocate. Lambert had not produced offense over the past few seasons including the WJC where he was playing kids his age. I think many were wondering if he actually could dominate in the CHL which is a very good league. He really hadn‘t shown any indication in the past two seasons. I really believe he badly needed to dominate and score goals in bundles even if he (along with every other junior star) needs to refine more at the next level. What would have been terrible would have been if he went to Seattle and was Muh.

There is zero downside in him dominating for this stretch, he so badly needed to rack up points. I look at it as a very positive sign that he has finally grown out of a level he is playing at.

It’s not a sure thing he produces at the next level but what we do know is he can hang with other top picks from last years draft.

It's definitely good to have some balanced views. Now that Cole is graduated I'd peg Lambert as having the highest ceiling of our forward prospects but it is also true that he's had a very uneven development track to date. He's had some great moments and some less then good moments.

I still maintain that if he's going to make it as a top 6 player then he needs a very careful and detailed development plan. We have seen what his game looks like when he's played up a level too quickly and what it looks like when his confidence is low.

I think the org is going to have to wait for him to excel at each step before moving him to the n3xt step.

Yes the next stage is he has to grow into a really good AHL player IMO.
 
The big problem with Dal Colle was he couldn't skate and wasn't physical. If he wasn't scoring what was he actually going to be good at?

But what I can't understand is why do we pick the outliers in a draft and not the consensus? Why look in the Dal Colle draft and compare him to Lambert when you can look in that same draft and find a bunch of guys who play a very similar game drafted in that first round

Here are some scout reports of other players in that draft

"A highly skilled player offensively. XXXXXXX skates very well, has impressive hands and is excellent at handling the puck at high speeds. Hockey sense is very impressive and he likes to shoot the puck a lot, but is also capable of delivering perfect passes. A very agile player that protects the puck well and skates hard in the offensive zone.
On the other hand, his defensive game needs some work. Not a selfish player, but at times he tends to hang onto the puck for too long, instead of making the easier play. Has the tools and skills to lead his team in all offensive aspects."

"XXXXXXX is an explosive player who can beat even the quickest defensemen wide with his speed. He plays on his off wing and creates chances with sharp cuts to the middle comple- mented by an explosive wrister. He’s equally good with the puck and can handle it both at top speed and in traffic.”

Couple of quick blurbs that sound a lot like our boy.

Here is one of Dal Colle

Oshawa’s prized sophomore forward will never be mistaken for a dynamic speedster, but Michael Dal Colle just continues to get things done. The 6-foot-2 forward is capable of playing both centre and the wing and possesses impressive puck protection skills and offensive zone creativity that project well on his ability to be a big-time producer at the next level. Dal Colle’s top-end speed is an area of continued improvement, but his elusiveness, stickhandling ability, and long reach create matchup problems for any OHL defenseman. Dal Colle has always been a dangerous goal scorer but has really become a great playmaker as he does a great job of finding open teammates and making some impressive feeds.

Reminds me more of Lowry then Lambert when Lowry was in the WHL except Lowry always had a physical element to his game which actually allowed him to stay in the NHL.

Because I literally said why :laugh:

Right after posting this, I stumbled upon the "Why did Michael Dal Colle bust?" thread on the mainboard and was like "yep, you never know what a hyped draft pick is going to be like"
 
@ICdave (or anybody else who knows) I'm pretty sure the answer is no, but is Perfetti eligible to be sent down?

Ineligible, he needed to be on the AHL roster on March 3rd I think and because he was on IR he was ineligible for the paper transaction that would've made him eligible. The timing on being sent down is related to when the roster maximum is increased for the parent club I think?

They did send AJF down to the Moose on paper that day though, so he's eligible.
 
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Ineligible, he needed to be on the AHL roster on March 3rd I think and because he was on IR he was ineligible for the paper transaction that would've made him eligible. The timing on being sent down is related to when the roster maximum is increased for the parent club I think?

They did send AJF down to the Moose on paper that day though, so he's eligible.
That is what I thought, strange that the NHL players need the paper transaction but players like Chibrikov, Zhilkin, and Kuzmin can step right in.
 
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Just trying to have a balanced, nuanced view on the kid. We all know how that goes over on the internet lol

Hey just to be clear you are probably a bigger fan of him than I am its just I am very happy they sent him to the CHL I was screaming from the rooftops for them to make the move. I like what I see but he has a long ways to go.
 
That is what I thought, strange that the NHL players need the paper transaction but players like Chibrikov, Zhilkin, and Kuzmin can step right in.

Might be in an effort to protect AHL roster spots. Those players coming from junior or overseas are probably less likely to just be a plug and play upgrade over a player established in the AHL so they're less likely to steal a roster spot. A player getting sent down from the NHL is very obviously coming from a superior level of competition and would probably be an upgrade over most AHL players.

That's really the only explanation I can think of that makes sense in my mind.
 
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Possible signing his ELC that should start for the 23 -24 season

ATO for Moose season…… although I do not see him as an upgrade at this time to the playoff moose lineup. With Russian being banned from international competition …… he has zero NA completion expierience.
 
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Might be in an effort to protect AHL roster spots. Those players coming from junior or overseas are probably less likely to just be a plug and play upgrade over a player established in the AHL so they're less likely to steal a roster spot. A player getting sent down from the NHL is very obviously coming from a superior level of competition and would probably be an upgrade over most AHL players.

That's really the only explanation I can think of that makes sense in my mind.
That seems rather logical, must be the same problem-solving skills that you applied to Red Dead Redemption. Even though Rockstar kind of holds your hand throughout the game, which isn’t the thing I’m most fond of.

As for my update, I haven’t done any missions for the past couple days, I’m just focusing on the side stuff like the Challenges. I just finished killing two different types of wildlife (snake and bird) in one Dead Eye meter. But I’ve run into a hiccup beating the computer at poker. I haven’t played much in real life and am struggling a bit, so if you or anyone else on here has some Texas Hold ‘Em tips, I’d love to hear them. I need to win in poker to unlock an outfit.

And so a big, mean moderator doesn’t remove my post for being off-topic, I will say I’m super excited Chibrikov is in North America. I remember there was excitement when he was drafted as a possible first-round talent, but he’s been hard to follow overseas. I was worried the Russian factor would prevent him from signing here but I’m excited to see him suit up in antlers next season for the Moose.
 
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That seems rather logical, must be the same problem-solving skills that you applied to Red Dead Redemption. Even though Rockstar kind of holds your hand throughout the game, which isn’t the thing I’m most fond of.

As for my update, I haven’t done any missions for the past couple days, I’m just focusing on the side stuff like the Challenges. I just finished killing two different types of wildlife (snake and bird) in one Dead Eye meter. But I’ve run into a hiccup beating the computer at poker. I haven’t played much in real life and am struggling a bit, so if you or anyone else on here has some Texas Hold ‘Em tips, I’d love to hear them. I need to win in poker to unlock an outfit.

I meant to re-play RDR before RDR2 came out but never did, so my memory of the game has clouded with time. I don't remember playing any of the challenges with the intent to 100% the game, the story held my attention the entire time I think. As for poker tips I'm far from an expert but I do remember that you can't bluff, the AI will call every time in the PS3/X360 RDR. Folding is also perfectly acceptable if you haven't posted the big blind as well.

RDR2 holds your hand a little less but the story is still mostly linear. The world building is honestly just about the best part of it, it's really easy to get sidetracked in the world.

And if you're interested in another Rockstar game written by the same lead writer you should look at Bully. There's a sequel that's been rumored for probably the last 5 years and the original is another great story driven game that also has engaging gameplay. It also has one of the best video game instrumental soundtracks in my opinion, I still listen to it occasionally.

And so a big, mean moderator doesn’t remove my post for being off-topic, I will say I’m super excited Chibrikov is in North America. I remember there was excitement when he was drafted as a possible first-round talent, but he’s been hard to follow overseas. I was worried the Russian factor would prevent him from signing here but I’m excited to see him suit up in antlers next season for the Moose.

Yeah, hopefully he can get more ice time and find more consistency in NA. His game always screamed Nikolaj Ehlers with a little more tenaciousness in going to the net. I think he could have thrived if he had come to NA sooner and taken a similar path as Lambert.
 
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