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GaryPoppins said:
I honestly think Vancouver is dumb enough to give us a first for Stanley, I shit you not.
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Van is under new management. FWIW

I doubt even the old management would give us a 1st for Stanley. They only have their own 1sts right now. Those will be early. No way they give us a top 10 pick for Stanley.
 
Teppo Numenor said:
Stanley will be an beast when he turns thirty in the nhl. We are developing him for another team
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I disagree. I think we've seen enough of Logan Stanley by now to know that they are only two scenarios he ends up playing even closely to "being a beast" (I mean I guess you can argue about that definition anyway, what do you mean by a beast? He's already a beast physically... playing like a beast probably?) and both of those scenarios are highly unlikely to happen.

1. He does it with his mobility
- 100% not gonna happen. We saw for years how a guy of his frame needs to skate and how his agility and balance needs to look like in order to play "like a beast" and not have players run circles around him in watching Dustin Byfuglien. Logan Stanly is very far away from Byfugliens skating. Very far.


2. He does it with exceptional hockey IQ
- Not 100% impossible compared to the skaing scenario but also highly likely. I think his hockey iq is below average to begin with or at least right now. IMO this is the main reason why he won't break into a top 4 player long term, no matter where he goes. You might be able to cover his lack of mobility with a sick two-way defenseman that is absolutely elite at skating (someone like Morrissey for example this season) but you won't be able to cover for his lack of hockey iq - let alone both aspects. That is most likely why we haven't seen Logan Stanly been utilized on a pairing with Morrissey for any time, because coaching staff knows, that Stanley's deficites are too big to overcome by just putting him with a player like Josh Morrissey
 
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GJF said:
I disagree. I think we've seen enough of Logan Stanley by now to know that they are only two scenarios he ends up playing even closely to "being a beast" (I mean I guess you can argue about that definition anyway, what do you mean by a beast? He's already a beast physically... playing like a beast probably?) and both of those scenarios are highly unlikely to happen.

1. He does it with his mobility
- 100% not gonna happen. We saw for years how a guy of his frame needs to skate and how his agility and balance needs to look like in order to play "like a beast" and not have players run circles around him in watching Dustin Byfuglien. Logan Stanly is very far away from Byfugliens skating. Very far.


2. He does it with exceptional hockey IQ
- Not 100% impossible compared to the skaing scenario but also highly likely. I think his hockey iq is below average to begin with or at least right now. IMO this is the main reason why he won't break into a top 4 player long term, no matter where he goes. You might be able to cover his lack of mobility with a sick two-way defenseman that is absolutely elite at skating (someone like Morrissey for example this season) but you won't be able to cover for his lack of hockey iq - let alone both aspects. That is most likely why we haven't seen Logan Stanly been utilized on a pairing with Morrissey for any time, because coaching staff knows, that Stanley's deficites are too big to overcome by just putting him with a player like Josh Morrissey
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I think Logan’s best chance is to relocate to a team where he can play 70 plus games in a season. Samberg is better than Stanley so short of a sell off of D Vets Logan is more or less going to be a 7-8 press box type here. He won’t improve in that role.
 
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ps241 said:
I think Logan’s best chance is to relocate to a team where he can play 70 plus games in a season. Samberg is better than Stanley so short of a sell off of D Vets Logan is more or less going to be a 7-8 press box type here. He won’t improve in that role.
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that is going to be a requirement for him in order to make any kind of step forward in his progression to start with
 
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Atoyot said:
That surprises me, he's +12 in on ice goal differential, one behind Morrissey for best among defense on the team, so his goals for/60 must be very high.
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if his goals against / 60 is a league low, his goals for / 60 doesn't have to be very high to have a solid differential.
 
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Gil Fisher said:
if his goals against / 60 is a league low, his goals for / 60 doesn't have to be very high to have a solid differential.
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Oh geez, sorry I misread your original post. When you said he lead the league I thought you meant he had the highest/worst and I didn't really register the number itself.
 
Atoyot said:
Big fan of Salomonsson every time I see him play. Only really started looking at DiVincentiis later in the season but hard to not be excited with what he's doing. How about yourself?
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Thank you for asking and sorry for the delay, for I have been caught up in exam preparation and job hunting. Anyway, my favourite prospect overall is probably "Big Bad" Brad Lambert. I'm really rooting for the kid, especially after what's his name and that other jackass were shit-talking him all of last summer. I think there's a top-six player there.

I echo your thoughts on DiVincentiis. I am trying to temper my expectations on him, being a seventh-round pick, but he looks impressive. I am hoping he'll be on the Canadian junior team this December, and I hope we can get him signed. Lord knows we could use a good goalie prospect.

I haven't seen much of Salomonsson yet, unfortunately, but I'm liking the reviews on him, and I'm encouraged by the fact you think highly of him. Maybe he can be that solid RHD prospect we are clamouring for. What do you project him as, currently? I recognize we've got a ways to go with him, but I am curious of where he could potentially end up.

I do hope after the draft to publish my full top 25 Winnipeg Jets prospects to the boards here. I am hoping I will find the time to do some in-depth research.

Anyhow, thank you for taking the time to engage with me on this. I am also appreciative of your updates on our prospects throughout the season. Keep up the good work.
 
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Atoyot said:
Big fan of Salomonsson every time I see him play. Only really started looking at DiVincentiis later in the season but hard to not be excited with what he's doing. How about yourself?
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Salomonsson is one of the most interesting player reviews I have read in the Black Book 2022. So much to unpack. Maybe best summarized by Mark Edwards final quote:

“I remember driving to Gatineau and having a good talk with our scout in Stockholm about the huge
gap between my best and worst viewings of Salomonsson. His best games were very impressive. Johan is a big fan and would rank him higher, but he didn’t get enough support from the rest of us.” -
HP
Scout, Mark Edwards
 
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MardyBum said:
Saw this floating around twitter, Brown also had a snippet about Lambert from a week ago. Not sure if posted but hey he's back and producing again.




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The most interesting, or exciting part of that is to hear about his all around game. And he is playing at C. He might be the best bet we have right now as a top 6 C.

I was dubious of the pick at first, based on his last couple of seasons in Liiga and the rep that he had managed to acquire. He said the right things though, which looked promising. But would he live up to the words? He said he would play wherever Jets thought best. By going to the WHL and embracing it he has shown the attitude to match the words. I was wrong about the pick.

I'm really excited for this prospect now. I hope he is ready for the AHL next season.
 
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