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One thing I've noticed the last few games is that teams have been pressuring Scheifele hard on the half wall on the PP and he's been coughing it up a lot.

I guess a learning curve should be expected given he has pretty much spent the last three years as a net front triggeman on the pp and now he's one of the qb's. I'm expecting he will improve there as he gets some more experience.
 

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Gonna be honest... Both the pp and PK look brutal.PK is so passive and the pp? The movement is just so slow.. everyone standing still.. doing nothing. Is it the players or scheme?
 
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Not the worst loss, but heartbreaker either way.

Once PLD comes into the lineup I expect us to be the best Canadian team. Maybe even a better team for years.
 

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Funny. Lines 2 3 and 4 didn't look burnt out.
Only #55 and 26 for the most part. Scheifele couldn't even cross the blueline from the center ice line in 10 seconds tonight. 2 strides and glide for 30 seconds!
I sure liked the Stats-Ehlers-Copp line most of the night. Looks like a " keeper trio" going forward.
 

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Gonna be honest... Both the pp and PK look brutal.PK is so passive and the pp? The movement is just so slow.. everyone standing still.. doing nothing. Is it the players or scheme?
Wheeler was just gassed... I wouldn't worry about the PP

PK is the same passive collapsing box its always been and always will be... did you think Dave Lowry would change that?
 
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Not the worst loss, but heartbreaker either way.

Once PLD comes into the lineup I expect us to be the best Canadian team. Maybe even a better team for years.

I think on paper our depth is sick.. our d tho? Forbort Pionk Beaulieu aren't good.. Stanley? He's young still learning.. needs to be sheltered.. not so good D.. but the forwards should make up for it.. adding Stastny and PLD should make us a better d team by default.

Are we the best team in the north? Not currently. Are we a playoff lock? We should be with PLD.

My only concern is behind the bench.
 

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One thing for certain is that with the risk associated with trading Laine (with the objective of balancing lines) the goal has to be for the Jets to linger be .......... well ........ primarily a 1 line team in minutes played.

if I his doesn’t happen I think we can safely come back and say the Laine trade was not good.

it will be time for PoMo to deliver. Put up or shut up pack your bags and bring in trots. (Not torts)
 
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One thing for certain is that with the risk associated with trading Laine (with the objective of balancing lines) the goal has to be for the Jets to linger be .......... well ........ primarily a 1 line team in minutes played.

if I his doesn’t happen I think we can safely come back and say the Laine trade was not good.

it will be time for PoMo to deliver. Put up or shut up pack your bags and bring in trots. (Not torts)

Don't think trading Laine is really that big of a deal honestly. I do think Chevy tho made it clear that expectations for this team is to win so I think your last part is correct. It's time for Paul to put up or get out... There's really no excuses anymore. You got Scheif Stast pld Lowry Down the middle. Gus looked good tonight also.. u got options now.. hopefully Paul uses them and spreads out the minutes cuz if not.. I think he's done if we miss the playoffs.
 
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I'm not really sure how you can really blame Brossoit so much for that game. Both games the guy gets pretty much 40 shots against, both games on a back to back, and when your one Dman takes a couple horrible penalties and you leave guys wide open infront of the net, unless your a brick wall I don't know how your supposed to stop every shot. Not saying the first goal wasn't his fault but with that bad Copp no goal call, might have been a bit different. I really hope we destroy them Tuesday and when PLD plays them for his first time in our jersey, he scores a hatty.
Noticing a trend in both our goalies 3 of 5 games. Most goals scored on them beat high glove or blocker because they have gone down too low, early and shooter finds the open seam and ...zing, red light a flashing.
 

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Forbort and Pionk are not a very good 2nd pairing. Pionk has been brutal.

Helle gave him the desathstare after losing the shutout against Ottawa.

Seems they on the ice for most goals against.

Side note.. Copps non goal.. looked like Koskinen missed to me and I played goal and normally will be on their sides but to me... Refs f***ed that one up no?
 

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Why are people complaining about ice time tonight? It was pretty reasonable, Scheifele played only 20 mins and Wheeler 18. That's pretty reasonable top-6 deployment.

The best part of the game was Wheeler goal. Karmic justice for pathetic "defending" by Russell who would just lay on the ice as soon as the puck got to Wheeler. That was the hockey gods sending him a message.
Scheifele should have played under 10 minutes. He was dogging it and behind the play every shift. 2 weak strides andthen glide...or lift himself up from being knocked over easily.
 
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Just a feeling, but I think PLD is our 1C by this time next year.

It wouldn't surprise me, PLD is just entering his prime and Schiefele will be nearing the tail end of his. I think you see Scheifele morph into the 1B center role around age 28/29 just like what happened with Little for us.
 

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Topics:

1. How did the Stastny line handle challenge of shutting down Draisaitl?
2. What did he think of the overturned goal and did it change momentum?
3. His assessment of the Jets so far at 4-2-0 after playing five games in seven days?
4. What kind of impact can this kind of loss have on a team?
5. What did he see on the game winner?
6. On putting David Gustafsson into the lineup.
7. Whose coverage was it on the game tying goal?
 

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Beaulieu out for the entire last two minutes was a bad idea - great game for the Jets though considering it was back to back

Really liked Morrissey's game, 2nd and 3rd lines were dominant

Heinola would have helped - as expected Stanley is just a shade too slow for a team like this

This team can easily win the Cdn division if Mo doesn't gas his top line... sure hope Ehlers-PLD-Copp becomes a thing

Beaulieu was damn good on the PK, the whole time, in those last 2 minutes, so I don't what the issue with him is. It's Copp's man in coverage, or Lowry in a rotation, that scored. But no one would blame them for the loss.
In fact I would say that Beaulieu looked quite a bit better than De Melo, who looks like he hasn't slept well since adding to his family. He's probably the biggest culprit in this loss, but pointing fingers isn't what a team sport is about. Just failed to execute. Get a chance to redeem themselves next game.

I think that eventually Poolman draws back in for Stanley, because with De Melo in the box, you had 2 options, Beaulieu, and Pionk on the right side, and Pionk isn't an ideal PKer.
I'd say that Poolman brings more pace, and a better breakout pass than Stanley. Which will incense the fanbase demanding for rookie contributions, as we may not have any for a stretch.

I like Heinola's game, but I am not sure what the plan is with him. Does he have enough to warrant sacrificing a year of ELC? And if you consider special teams values as they have been a factor in every game that we have lost points in (including tonight though not on the stats sheet), where can Heinola contribute? PP2? I'd be interested in seeing another game of Morrissey-Heinola, and move down De Melo with Beaulieu, as De Melo has not looked like our 3rd best defenseman early in the season. But then we are going to need contributions from Morrissey or Pionk or both on the PK conceivably, so that's something to manage in risk/reward.

I liked Harkins-Gustafsson-Lewis as a 4th line. Hopefully they stay together.

Tough loss, but as Ray would say, that's how she goes boys.
 

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Forbort and Pionk are not a very good 2nd pairing. Pionk has been brutal.

Helle gave him the desathstare after losing the shutout against Ottawa.

Seems they on the ice for most goals against.

Side note.. Copps non goal.. looked like Koskinen missed to me and I played goal and normally will be on their sides but to me... Refs f***ed that one up no?
Yah, the one angle from the left corner icing/ goal libe showed that Koskinen swiped up and forward at the puck above face and missed it. Copp was raising his stick toward the puck but it already went passed Koskinen's glove. The motion of both parties (K's glove and Copp's stick raising) led to them meeting, hitting each other. Koskinen had a clear play on the puck but missed it. The fact Copp's stick hit Koskinen's glove had nothing to do him missing the puck or being obstructed from playing the puck. The refs only ruled interference on the vague premise that when Copp's stick hit Koskinen's glove, the puck hadn't crossed the line behind the goalie yet. Bogus call on McDavid's team gets the benefit of the doubt, IMO.
View over the refs shoulder at his I-pad showed theg were only viewing distant camera replay from right side neaf ghe blue line! Still not clearly interference enough to change the call of a "good goal" originally made.
 
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