Post-Game Talk: Jets lose 7-2. My teams suck.

[Gil Fisher]

My first choice would be Niku for PP1.

 

[Atoyot]

Hurts to say but the PP at its current state could use Ristolainen..... if he could be acquired without giving up anyone from the top 6. Morrissey is a great player but he's not working out on PP.

I don't understand how people are coming to this conclusion when the PP can't even get set up in the opposing zone. I don't know how Ristolainen would watch his forwards get stood up at the blue line and go back to fetch the puck over and over again any differently.

 

[Robinson2187]

Hellesuck awful. Should of start Brossoit.

Really, not a terrible team game. The first powerplay unit was a continuing travesty and the whole team got burnt puckwatching and leaving the back-door open all night, but otherwise the Jets controlled play thoroughly.

 

[backwards motion]

So this I missed while I was sleeping. Today I'm a the box office guy, but without being a critic since I know my place... and this is probably one of those places I don't want to be.

Can't say I liked the score.

Is this gonna be one of Dr. Heckyl and Mr. Hide seasons? No one know who's coming in to the ice as a team form?

Were there any positives? (sorry, didn't want to look at all posts) Something to give hope... after reading a couple of pages.

 

[stonec]

Ristolainen seems to average 5-6 goals per season with a 3% shooting accuracy, which is even worse than Morrissey, so he won't provide any improvement on the PP blue line.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

I don't understand how people are coming to this conclusion when the PP can't even get set up in the opposing zone. I don't know how Ristolainen would watch his forwards get stood up at the blue line and go back to fetch the puck over and over again any differently.

The set up thing could be fixed by swapping Ehlers and Connor. Ehlers is our best puck carrier. Could be.

Ristolainen seems to average 5-6 goals per season with a 3% shooting accuracy, which is even worse than Morrissey, so he won't provide any improvement on the PP blue line.

Ristolainen is a very good passer on the PP and RHD which is what the PP needs. He does have mean shot, meaner than Morrissey, but yeah he does not use it as often as he probably should.

Look, Risto's one of the only RHD PP specialists available, all I'm saying is that he could help the team if he was available without giving up too much. I'm not trying to sell him as some great player, because he's not and I know its very fashionable to take a dump on him.


Another thing that could be tried is Pionk on #1 PP. Sorry, I just don't like LHD on that PP.

 

[Jets 31]

You have the perfect avatar for what might be going on with their post .

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

The team has given up 26 goals against in 7 games... and somehow has a winning record.

With the D getting decimated this summer I thought that Maurice would commit to tight defensive structure instead of no structure. I think Maurice is fired midseason if they keep playing defense this sloppy.

Yeah, there is Morrissey. But other than that, I believe the buttery soft area in front of our goal, and the lack of defensive structure is directly attributable to the quality of our D core and their simple inability to play NHL hockey at a high enough level.

 

[Keystone]

I’d even think about putting in Ehlers and going 5 fwds on 1PP. Morrissey has not looked good at all. Bleeding shortys already so what can it hurt.

 

[Jets 31]

I'm not that worried , it's just one game in a very condensed schedule to start the season . Now if they play exactly like this on Tuesday ...........

 

[Neuf]

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

Its early so there is lots of time to improve this. But our HDCF% of 43.21% is the lowest in Jets 2.0 history. If we go through the year this way, it will be a long year and a lot of lopsided losses.

 

[GaryPoppins]

My first choice would be Niku for PP1.

"That's what I wanted. He's young. He has time" when Maurice decides to continue to dick over Niku.

 

[kylbaz]

Who would you put in his place currently? It honestly says more about Chevy and his lack of roster adjustment. We've needed a proper 2C for three+ years and he's spent major assets for short term results.

Thats a fair point but at the very least roslo. He atleast has some offensive ability. Copp is a fourth liner and thats it . It is too bad we couldnt have used Trouba, lemieux or our last two firsts to get a long term 2C.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Yeah, there is Morrissey. But other than that, I believe the buttery soft area in front of our goal, and the lack of defensive structure is directly attributable to the quality of our D core and their simple inability to play NHL hockey at a high enough level.

What even makes you think having a strong defensive structure is possible under Maurice? We had 10x the talent last year and couldn't play a tight defensive game.

 

[GaryPoppins]

Thats a fair point but at the very least roslo. He atleast has some offensive ability. Copp is a fourth liner and thats it . It is too bad we couldnt have used Trouba, lemieux or our last two firsts to get a long term 2C.

Or Ryan O'Reilly? The price St.L paid was dirt cheap for what they're getting out of him.

Hindsight is 20/20 but the 2C has been an issue for years. Now we have that AND no back end. This is why I feel Chevy should be on the hot seat, IMO.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Its early so there is lots of time to improve this. But our HDCF% of 43.21% is the lowest in Jets 2.0 history. If we go through the year this way, it will be a long year and a lot of lopsided losses.

Should probably just look at 5v5, which is still bad (46.1%), but not aligned with xGF% (47.2%) and xSCF% (50.2%). These should regress towards a smaller range over time, at which point we'll have a better idea of what we have.

 

[Tommigun]

Get Morrissey off the PP, I get the seniority thing but he really isn’t that good on the PP.

Edit: oh that’s what’s being discussed already.

 

[Atoyot]

The set up thing could be fixed by swapping Ehlers and Connor. Ehlers is our best puck carrier. Could be.



Ristolainen is a very good passer on the PP and RHD which is what the PP needs. He does have mean shot, meaner than Morrissey, but yeah he does not use it as often as he probably should.

Look, Risto's one of the only RHD PP specialists available, all I'm saying is that he could help the team if he was available without giving up too much. I'm not trying to sell him as some great player, because he's not and I know its very fashionable to take a dump on him.


Another thing that could be tried is Pionk on #1 PP. Sorry, I just don't like LHD on that PP.

So what does that have to do with Morrissey? Again, I just don't understand how he's being judged when he doesn't get a chance to do anything and I don't understand how Ristolainen would fix that. He'd be told to do the same thing; skate up to center, drop to Scheifele, everybody else stand stationary at the blue line waiting to dump and chase despite that being a terrible idea, at which point Scheif will either dump it, try to go in himself and lose it, or try to pass to a stationary player who will immediately get pressured and likely lose it. The problem isn't any one individual player, it's the fact that they try to do the same thing over and over again.

As for not liking the LHD, why? I've heard the narrative a million times that a RHD is better set up to pass it to Laine for a one timer. The RHD passing to Laine resulting in a goal is something that happened exactly once all of last season. I checked.

Again, the issue isn't any individual player. Taking off a player just because he is left handed for a right handed player who doesn't think the game as quickly or pass as well is not a great plan.

 

[Gil Fisher]

I’d even think about putting in Ehlers and going 5 fwds on 1PP. Morrissey has not looked good at all. Bleeding shortys already so what can it hurt.

"let's throw gasoline on a tire fire"

 

[backwards motion]

Is Selänne good shaped 49 too old needed? What about Numminen at 51 to buff (pun inteded) the defence? Maybe cheap home town contracts for now and maybe the yearsters will learn a trick or two? Too far fethed? Gotcha.
At least if our team is in the quicksand. Things may have gotten too fast while in the quicksand.

 

[Tommigun]

Buff please come back, all is forgotten!

 

[Kaako Kappo]

As for not liking the LHD, why? I've heard the narrative a million times that a RHD is better set up to pass it to Laine for a one timer. The RHD passing to Laine resulting in a goal is something that happened exactly once all of last season. I checked.

Well jeez, i f***ing wonder what the reason might be.

That entire passing play happened like five times in a season and the reason rhymes with Lick Guff

That D to Laine pass should be the main play, not the impossible Wheeler pass through the entire opposing team.

 

[Conflicted Habs fan]

This team needs a "trust test"!

 

[Jack722]

I think a Connor - Roslovic - Wheeler line would get absolutely buried. Really bad defensively.