Speculation: Jets - General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation (Part XVIII)

[truck]

Doubt it. There's already bad blood between the Jets and Senators organisations. I don't think they're going to be trading partners for a while

What? Why?

 

[truck]

You might want to check out this franchise's entire 2nd round draft history...

Indeed. 2nd round is no guarantee.

That said, picks are useful for more than just drafting. Case in point, Michael Frolik.

 

[Flair Hay]

What? Why?

It was speculated that Ottawa thought they and the Jets had a deal for Oduya. Chevy might have overstepped some old boys code or whatever and bailed last minute and dealt him to Chicago instead. Rumour was though that Murray was real pissed about it.

 

[truck]

It was speculated that Ottawa thought they and the Jets had a deal for Oduya. Chevy might have overstepped some old boys code or whatever and bailed last minute and dealt him to Chicago instead. Rumour was though that Murray was real pissed about it.

I don't remember that. Where did this rumor come from?

 

[bazaaa*]

100%. Also people act as if 2nd/3rd round picks are nothing. These were the guys we acquire in 2nd round: Nic Petan and Eric Comrie. If Seto/Joki/Stuart were on another team would anyone here give up Petan and Comrie for them?

Let's a) wait until Comrie and Petan have an impact at the NHL level and b) not use rare instances where 2nd round picks turn into anything. As others have said, stats don't lie. I think it was Garrett or someone that said there's a 20% chance a second round pick turns into anything useful.

 

[Flair Hay]

I don't remember that. Where did this rumor come from?

Garrioch I think? Not anything concrete, but it was reported on in Ottawa. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[drumzan]

Garrioch I think? Not anything concrete, but it was reported on in Ottawa. I'll see if I can find it.

Travis Yost goes over it fairly well...

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=44898

 

[veganhunter]

@garylawless: Mark Stuart says he wants to stay with #nhljets beyond deadline and into the future

Meh Stuey isn't very good, but he plays like a warrior and is obviously a leader on this team. I wouldn't mind him back in a drastically reduced role at a cheap price i.e. 6/7/8/ and paid like one.

 

[BigZ65]

According to Dreger, Callahan is asking the Rangers for something between $6.5 and $7 million.

How on earth does he think he's worth that? He hasn't even put up 30 goals in a season ever and is a whopping 3 time 20 goal scorer as a guy who tends to be a goal scorer, produces at less than .5 ppg in the playoffs. I don't care how many intangibles a guy has, that's a crazy ask. The cap isn't going up that much.

Setoguchi should ask for $5 million.

 

[Boreal]

I really like Ryan Callahan, but he is being disturbingly overrated. He's encroaching on Clarkson territory.

He's good at what he's good at, but any team that pays him that floated figure of $6,500,000 to $7,000,000 has lost their marbles if it is for any modest or longer term.

 

[JC Numminen]

I'd love Callahan on the jets, but for that kind of cash? No way, NY would have to be crazy to do that.

For 4 million maybe? Could slot in somewhere in the top 6 and at the least on the 3rd. Would provide great leadership as well

 

[truck]

Better than Clarkson

http://www.extraskater.com/players/dashboard?players=138,498

I really like Ryan Callahan, but he is being disturbingly overrated. He's encroaching on Clarkson territory.

He's good at what he's good at, but any team that pays him that floated figure of $6,500,000 to $7,000,000 has lost their marbles if it is for any modest or longer term.

That is way too much money though.

 

[Romang67]

Better than Clarkson

http://www.extraskater.com/players/dashboard?players=138,498



That is way too much money though.

Everyone is better than Clarkson.

He's the Milhouse of the hockey world.

 

[BigZ65]

Better than Clarkson

http://www.extraskater.com/players/dashboard?players=138,498



That is way too much money though.

And if he's given anything near 6.5-7, what are Kreider, Stepan...heck even Brassard, going to want in their next contracts?

 

[truck]

It isn't out of the norm for coaches to have GM bring in former players.

The Canes have long been linked to trade talks - not sure if anything works, but there could be a connection there.

Also, what do you guys think of Joni Pitkanen. Injuries have been a battle, but he will be a UFA, he is left handed and may be available on a steep discount.

 

[Romang67]

It isn't out of the norm for coaches to have GM bring in former players.

The Canes have long been linked to trade talks - not sure if anything works, but there could be a connection there.

Also, what do you guys think of Joni Pitkanen. Injuries have been a battle, but he will be a UFA, he is left handed and may be available on a steep discount.

If he can return, I wouldn't mind him on the team. Of course, it depends on how much this injury has affected him.

 

[Atoyot]

Let's a) wait until Comrie and Petan have an impact at the NHL level and b) not use rare instances where 2nd round picks turn into anything. As others have said, stats don't lie. I think it was Garrett or someone that said there's a 20% chance a second round pick turns into anything useful.

20% is just the average though, it's not the same for every team. It's not luck that teams like San Jose and Detroit are constantly picking NHL caliber players from outside the 1st round, and it's not a lack of luck that Edmonton and Vancouver have barely gotten any. If you have a good scouting team and put the proper funds into it, you're going to hit more than 20% in the second round.

 

[Boreal]

It isn't out of the norm for coaches to have GM bring in former players.

The Canes have long been linked to trade talks - not sure if anything works, but there could be a connection there.

Also, what do you guys think of Joni Pitkanen. Injuries have been a battle, but he will be a UFA, he is left handed and may be available on a steep discount.

Depending on the injuries it could be well worth a kick of the tires on a very short term deal.

 

[truck]

Depending on the injuries it could be well worth a kick of the tires on a very short term deal.

That's the thing. We may not know about the recovery, but at the right price he could be nothing or a massive steal.

 

[Jet]

It isn't out of the norm for coaches to have GM bring in former players.

The Canes have long been linked to trade talks - not sure if anything works, but there could be a connection there.

Also, what do you guys think of Joni Pitkanen. Injuries have been a battle, but he will be a UFA, he is left handed and may be available on a steep discount.

Joni Pitkanen - do not want. He will instantly be the whipping boy on this team. Gigantic but soft as a marshmallow. No way he's a TN type player.

Keep in mind this is from a guy who OWNS a Pitkanen jersey

 

[Sweech]

It isn't out of the norm for coaches to have GM bring in former players.

The Canes have long been linked to trade talks - not sure if anything works, but there could be a connection there.

Also, what do you guys think of Joni Pitkanen. Injuries have been a battle, but he will be a UFA, he is left handed and may be available on a steep discount.

I've always liked him, but it feels like the guy can never finish a season.

 

[Guerzy]

When Pitkanen got injured again earlier this year it was said he may have to retire. Not sure what the most recent is on him, but ya, big time injury prone.

 

[Huffer]

Who are some of those players that are maybe in an organization where they play in a position of depth and need an opportunity / "may" be available?

Something like Despres, Connolly, possibly Gormley, etc.

 

[Gil Fisher]

Who are some of those players that are maybe in an organization where they play in a position of depth and need an opportunity / "may" be available?

Something like Despres, Connolly, possibly Gormley, etc.

Pittsburg has four top LHD prospects in Despres, Dumoulin, Harrington and Pouliot. That's behind Maatta on the left side too. Despres is 6'4", moves nicely, but seems to be out of favour. Think I'd like Harrington out of the group, but Despres may come cheapest. We need someone who can slot in long term behind Toby, if they won't put Buff back there.

 

[veganhunter]

I'd be all over Gormely if we could get him for the right price.