Speculation: Jets - General Rumour, Trade, Free Agent and Waiver Speculation (Part XIV)

[jamiebez]

Would probably come at a decent price given Boston wants/has to shed salary.

Yeah, I'm kind of becoming obsessed with this idea in the last week or so....

Seems like this is too perfect NOT to happen, right?

 

[Gil Fisher]

I'd rate Postma as a mid-second and Cormier as a 4th or 5th and I expect both to be gone in the next week.

 

[allan5oh]

Hey guys, I want to know where should Jacob Trouba be playing next season? Is he a lock for the AHL or NHL?

The issue will be asset management. On the left side we have Enstrom and Stuart under contract, and kulda is an rfa. On the right side we have buff, Bogo, and trouba under contract, Redmond and postma are RFAs. Trouba is also the only one that is waiver exempt.

Not entirely sure what is going to happen with our d-core. A trade of postma or Redmond would be the most obvious, to make some room for Trouba.

 

[buggs]

The issue will be asset management. On the left side we have Enstrom and Stuart under contract, and kulda is an rfa. On the right side we have buff, Bogo, and trouba under contract, Redmond and postma are RFAs. Trouba is also the only one that is waiver exempt.

Not entirely sure what is going to happen with our d-core. A trade of postma or Redmond would be the most obvious, to make some room for Trouba.

Only one of them though. Over two years our D-corps has had a propensity to get hurt, so let's not get thin either. Gotta be a team out there with a comparable LHD to either Postma or Redmond where a straight swap would work.

 

[Flair Hay]

Yeah, I'm kind of becoming obsessed with this idea in the last week or so....

Seems like this is too perfect NOT to happen, right?

He was a pretty big part of Atlanta's team that was overachieving the Thrashers last season.

Either him or Bolland if acquired for cheap would help us quite a bit.

Boyd Gordon is a pretty comparable 3rd line defensive veteran as well who is UFA. Garret's chart had him with the most d zone starts of all UFA forwards if I remember correctly? We'd probably use him a bit differently than Phoenix but it would help us a TON just to get Olli's line sheltered more and win more face offs, improve the PK, etc.

Not to mention...Burmistrov would probably be in a better position to take strides improving offensively if he wasn't having to check against other teams' best players.

Maybe some kind of Postma + for Bolland? Chicago could probably do better though lol

 

[allan5oh]

Peverley is a prime target. It's not that he is the best available, he'd be rather easy to get. Contract isn't te best so it should be an easy scoop. Add in rights to khudobin and Ference. That would set us up fantastic for the summer.

 

[HannuJ]

i'd rather somehow get Marchand from Boston. Dude has the skills to be a 2nd liner but is utilized as a pest.

 

[allan5oh]

I have to disagree with you, marchand is a good 2nd liner but gets caught up in the game. How many tines did we see julien calming him down?

 

[Flair Hay]

i'd rather somehow get Marchand from Boston. Dude has the skills to be a 2nd liner but is utilized as a pest.

Somehow makes it seem like its a legitimate option. It's in all likelihood not. Marchand/Bergeron/Seguin might have been the best line in the NHL during the regular season. There's no real reason for Boston to trade him at all really. Good player, still young, good contract.

 

[Aela*]

Somehow makes it seem like its a legitimate option. It's in all likelihood not. Marchand/Bergeron/Seguin might have been the best line in the NHL during the regular season. There's no real reason for Boston to trade him at all really. Good player, still young, good contract.

seguin played with paille and kelly mostly.

I was actually thinking another year spent on the 3rd line for Seguin without putting up a PPG and we could get him, maybe straight up for Buff?

 

[Flair Hay]

seguin played with paille and kelly mostly.

I was actually thinking another year spent on the 3rd line for Seguin without putting up a PPG and we could get him, maybe straight up for Buff?

In the playoffs after the Leafs series he did. Not enforce Jagr was acquired who isn't being retained going forward. It's all trivial though, I just see no reason for Boston to move Marchand.

Seguin for Buff would be a dream come true lol but Chiarelli is anything but a dumb GM.

Peverly could be a wicked add, so could Bolland, so could Gordon. These guys are at least realistic (I think anyway haha).

I think Chevy gets it a little rough on here sometimes for being super patient, let alone if we're expecting him to bring in top six players from Cup winning teams..oh well.

 

[viper0220]

Blackhawks are shopping Bolland, what are the chances, Chevy go's for it, with his old team?

 

[PaperRockChamp]

Please, don't ask me to use my damned head. I am sick and tired of people assuming that every player that is a free agent considers Winnipeg a wasteland. How in the hell do you know what is going through Vincent Lecavalier's mind? Maybe he wants to stay in Florida. Maybe he wants to go to a contender? Perhaps there are people in the Jets organization he knows? Maybe he wants to come to a prairie city for his family's sake.

For you to blindly assume that some player just doesn't want to come here OR to assume I am just defending Winnipeg's honor is hardly using YOUR head. I'd like to know, instead of these feelings you have, any IOTA of fact you've used to come up with your 100% certainty. SURELY you would have FACTS to be that certain, no?

Your rage clouded your ability to read, apparently. It's even in the press today that Lecavalier has no interest in playing on the Prairies.. For now, we need to draft and develop. We are not yet an ideal destination for big-name free agents. The sooner you come to terms with this, the better. There is, obviously, always a chance that Parise/Lecav/Letang/etc could sign here but we need to establish the franchise a little bit more. I love this city, and defend it as hard as you do but it's okay to admit we're just not there yet as a franchise. You keep calling Winnipeg a wasteland/sh*thole/etc.. that's not the angle that my comments were coming from.

 

[Jet]

Your rage clouded your ability to read, apparently. It's even in the press today that Lecavalier has no interest in playing on the Prairies.. For now, we need to draft and develop. We are not yet an ideal destination for big-name free agents. The sooner you come to terms with this, the better. There is, obviously, always a chance that Parise/Lecav/Letang/etc could sign here but we need to establish the franchise a little bit more. I love this city, and defend it as hard as you do but it's okay to admit we're just not there yet as a franchise. You keep calling Winnipeg a wasteland/sh*thole/etc.. that's not the angle that my comments were coming from.

Who cares what is in the press today? I never said Lecavalier was a lock to come here, or that he even wanted to come here. We were debating this before that info came to public light.

It really annoys me to no end when people reinforce old memes and stereotypes, and seem to somehow know that marquee free agents won't come here. That is the premise that I am railing against. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Things change and have changed. We've seen that already with the signing of Jokinen, and the resigning of Enstrom and Kane. When I see people make comments like I know for a 100% fact that so and so won't sign here without anything to back it up, I find it both arrogant and ignorant.

Yeah, I was pissed. I will continue to be pissed when I see people present arguments that are biased on pure opinion and past history without accepting that the landscape of the NHL has changed. The leagues opinion of Winnipeg has changed and the opinion of the Jets and TNSE is a heck of a lot more positive than many give credit around here. The cap has changed things more than people yet realize too. Once players realize there are only so many $$$, you are going to see some surprising signings.

Sure, at the end of the day plenty of free agents are not going to sign here. Plenty of players won't want to play here. However it's no different in most of the other markets in the NHL. Hell there are players that want nothing to do with LA, NY, the Floridas. They have their reasons for wanting to play where they play.

 

[allan5oh]

I've also never understood this "we build through the draft" as though tiy excludes us from acquiring assets in free agency. In fact its the opposite, the more free agents we acquire for short term, the more we can sell at the deadline for picks.

 

[PaperRockChamp]

Who cares what is in the press today? I never said Lecavalier was a lock to come here, or that he even wanted to come here. We were debating this before that info came to public light.

It really annoys me to no end when people reinforce old memes and stereotypes, and seem to somehow know that marquee free agents won't come here. That is the premise that I am railing against. Nothing happens in a vacuum. Things change and have changed. We've seen that already with the signing of Jokinen, and the resigning of Enstrom and Kane. When I see people make comments like I know for a 100% fact that so and so won't sign here without anything to back it up, I find it both arrogant and ignorant.

Yeah, I was pissed. I will continue to be pissed when I see people present arguments that are biased on pure opinion and past history without accepting that the landscape of the NHL has changed. The leagues opinion of Winnipeg has changed and the opinion of the Jets and TNSE is a heck of a lot more positive than many give credit around here. The cap has changed things more than people yet realize too. Once players realize there are only so many $$$, you are going to see some surprising signings.

Sure, at the end of the day plenty of free agents are not going to sign here. Plenty of players won't want to play here. However it's no different in most of the other markets in the NHL. Hell there are players that want nothing to do with LA, NY, the Floridas. They have their reasons for wanting to play where they play.

That is the main point. I never said 100% fact. In your anger, you have misread. I clearly said that I "Feel 100% that Lecav won't sign here", as in, that's my opinion. You are using my comments to rally against something that I did not say.

I just want to move on. Sorry! /brohug

 

[Jet]

There are probably 27 teams that Lecav would sign for less with before considering Winnipeg.

For the record, this is the post that raised my dander. When you make a bold statement like that without qualifying it, you open it out for outside interpretation.

That is the main point. I never said 100% fact. In your anger, you have misread. I clearly said that I "Feel 100% that Lecav won't sign here", as in, that's my opinion. You are using my comments to rally against something that I did not say.

I just want to move on. Sorry! /brohug

Yeah, I admit I overreacted, but I dealt with this mindset for years when I was an Oilers fan and it was true. I honestly believe that players are far more open to coming to play in Winnipeg. I feel like people just jump back to the old 'no one wants to play here mantra' of the old days without considering what has changed.

 

[Duke749]

Getting bigger, doesn't mean you're not getting better. Ideally you do both.

My point was Oil would target our bigger and better players, as that's a need for them. We would not want to lose those players. If anything, we would want to add to that. That's why guys like Barkov and Monahan are highly sought. Teams like big, skilled guys. Crazy, I know.

We're big enough. Can we just get tougher? 6'5 Wheeler who plays about 6'0. Joker who doesn't use his 6'2 frame. 6'5 Buff who is worst in front of the net then 5'9 Enstrom. 6'3 Hains who doesn't play a physical game. We need a little more grind in the lineup, albeit, not much though.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Blackhawks are shopping Bolland, what are the chances, Chevy go's for it, with his old team?

$3.375M is a big chunk of money for a checking line C (albeit a very good one), and they probably won't deal him to a divisional opponent. I will LOL if a team gives up more than a 2nd rounder to acquire him.

Why not try and sign Boyd Gordon? Similar player who could probably be had for at most half of Bolland's salary.

 

[truck]

$3.375M is a big chunk of money for a checking line C (albeit a very good one), and they probably won't deal him to a divisional opponent. I will LOL if a team gives up more than a 2nd rounder to acquire him.

Why not try and sign Boyd Gordon? Similar player who could probably be had for at most half of Bolland's salary.

Be prepared to LOL. Many GMs are awful... except ours. Chevy is infallible.

 

[Mathmew Purrrr Oh]

We're big enough. Can we just get tougher? 6'5 Wheeler who plays about 6'0. Joker who doesn't use his 6'2 frame. 6'5 Buff who is worst in front of the net then 5'9 Enstrom. 6'3 Hains who doesn't play a physical game. We need a little more grind in the lineup, albeit, not much though.

Wheels played plenty big enough, especially on the forecheck causing turnovers and gaining possession (pretty sure he doubled his hits from 2011-2012)

I have zero desire to see him try and become an open-ice hitter or somesuch

 

[allan5oh]

Any interest in Zherdev? Apparently is a free agent, I know we had interest in 2011.

edit:

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...may-land-former-flyers-forward-126652238.html

 

[truck]

Any interest in Zherdev? Apparently is a free agent, I know we had interest in 2011.

I'm interested.

#moneypuck

No idea if Chevy is.

 

[ps241]

Lebrun is saying Jonas Hiller is in play for the right price which makes sense since the Ducks have so much goalie depth. Looks like a flood of goalie talent might hit the market this year and we are stuck in a long term contact with Pavs rant:)

 

[sully1410]

Apparently Schneider in play as well. Will be SUPER pissed if we aren't in on that action.