Friedman: Jets and Rutger McGroarty are not talking - his name is coming up in trade talks

[gojetsgo]

Does it mean teams can get him for a relative cheap price?

no

 

[bleedgreen]

Maybe the American kid wants to play in the states closer to his family. Why should he have to play in Canada? He didn't ask the Jets to draft him.

Teams have the rights early, players have the rights later.

 

[biturbo19]

Except it does.

OP used a twitter that isn't even correct.

No idea what the comment about the American public education system has to do with anything when I'm not American.


This may not be a baseball forum, but my man you've struck out and should just sit this one out.

"Except it does" what? Making your text bigger makes it more correct?


If OP used a twitter that isn't even correct, that should probably be rectified. But it seems to pretty clearly convey the heart of the issue here. It's not a novel scenario. We've seen this a hundred times over now.

You're just throwing out and focusing on ad hominem attacks rather than addressing any specific points of contention about what exactly is so "off base" about what i'm saying. Or deflecting to baseball analogy for no apparent reason.

 

[jamienwalker]

Buffalo's 1st rounder (#11), and what else?

 

[Vancouver_2010]

Buffalo's 1st rounder (#11), and what else?

if you need to pay that much of a price for him, why not just draft the best player available in this draft?

 

[lanky]

Buffalo's 1st rounder (#11), and what else?

I think that's a fine offer all on it's own.
If there is a strained relationship between Rutger and the Jets then this is a straight forward way to clean the slate.

 

[jamienwalker]

if you need to pay that much of a price for him, why not just draft the best player available in this draft?

he's 2 years developed/closer to playing in the NHL, (hopefully)

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Does it mean teams can get him for a relative cheap price?

Like the cheap price we got for Dubois?

 

[jgimp]

if you need to pay that much of a price for him, why not just draft the best player available in this draft?

Cause this draft isn’t as good or NHL ready as the McG draft. She drops off fast real quick.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Come to Anaheim - we have Zegras and Gauthier

 

[Vancouver_2010]

he's 2 years developed/closer to playing in the NHL, (hopefully)

With the attitude that he deserved ice time (according to what i understand) before he has proven himself? I don't know its worth the price.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

With the attitude that he deserved ice time (according to what i understand) before he has proven himself? I don't know its worth the price.

Teams don't send every prospect through the AHL. It's not out of line to think his last NCAA season earned him an NHL shot.

 

[kylbaz]

if you need to pay that much of a price for him, why not just draft the best player available in this draft?

Go look at the last 15 years and the success rate of players in that range. Mcgroaty has already taken steps forward and increased his value.

 

[HabsAddict]

I had the same thought. The Lebron James effect.

These USNTDP kids go join super teams in Michigan, BC, etc and then feel entitled to jump right into an nhl lineup.

I mean Winnipeg was one of the top teams in the league, you really think you can demand a lineup spot immediately?

His hero is Austin Matthews, the epitome of a team player who carried the Leafs on his back and into the Promise Land.

Pass on any trade for a kid with a really big mirror telling him he's an NHLer before he needs his first basket of pain killers after a corner dance with X (Xhejak).

 

[FMichael]

Available eh?

 

[HaNotsri]

I think that's a fine offer all on it's own.
If there is a strained relationship between Rutger and the Jets then this is a straight forward way to clean the slate.

I'm a bit greedy here but Jokiharju+2025 1st (unprotected)?
Jokiharju would fill a need but his value isn't high enough, he could be really good for the jets though. The first pretty much guaranteed top 15 since it's the Sabres...

Feel free to add Krebs as well...

 

[TommyDangles]

Buffalo's 1st rounder (#11), and what else?

Jets don't get rewarded for their top prospect not wanting to sign with them.

 

[HaNotsri]

Cause this draft isn’t as good or NHL ready as the McG draft. She drops off fast real quick.

I think the top 15 looks kind of similar to 2014 beforehand.

 

[SiZ]

Buffalo's 1st rounder (#11), and what else?

Buffalo makes a whole lot of sense for the team and the player now that you mention it.

 

[Tuna99]

Ridley Greig in Ottawa would be tempting for both teams.

 

[jgimp]

I think the top 15 looks kind of similar to 2014 beforehand.

No stellar talent (barring Celebrini). No clear cut elite top defender or forward. Lots of skill but appears to be a lot of low ceilings.

 

[Forge]

I'd give up 10 from the devils if Winnipeg has to take something.

New Jersey is not a good fit if they are wanting something more immediate

 

[seafoam]

He's got to have a destination in mind, no?

 

[Dr Amazing]

The Jets will find a team that will make a good trade if Rutger doesn't sign.

 

[Forge]

Does it mean teams can get him for a relative cheap price?

Cheap? I don't think so.

But that's also relative. I mean, I think Philadelphia got a very meh return on Gauthier given how Drysdale's career had been up to that point. But Philadelphia may have really liked him and thought that was a good deal. I was mostly underwhelmed though given that Cutter was a top 5 pick 18 months prior who had shown no indication that the selection was misguided.

So I could see how a potential return would get dinged here is other GMs try and bully Chevy, but this is a supply and demand business, and there's no reason for me, as a devils fan, not be willing to offer #10 to the Jets for him, so there's really no reason for Winnipeg to take a haircut on his trade value.