Player Discussion Jesse Ylonen #56

[Tyson]

Ylonen, imo, has a lot more to offer and would probably strive and perform better than some who have been given much better opportunities, whether younger or older.

He has earned a shot to move up

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

He has earned a shot to move up

Definitely

 

[Jaynki]

Well he's shown a nice scoring touch on the goals he's scored, in his limited ice time.

I'd like to see him play with a center who can get him the puck.

Sure. He has the flashes sometimes.

One poster made a fun metaphor and i think it sums Ylonen well.

He is like punching in a punching bag with the hand wide open.

 

[Jaynki]

Lol who then? Slaf and his 1 goal?

I can think of others

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I can think of others

Huh-uh.

Maybe this will change your mind:

 

[Jaynki]

Huh-uh.

Maybe this will change your mind:

Yes, Armia, Ylonen and Lindstrom being 3 constituent of the top 5 tells me everything i need to know.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Yes, Armia, Ylonen and Lindstrom being 3 constituent of the top 5 tells me everything i need to know.

I'm sorry, but you're just being childish now.

For one there's a SIGNIFICANT difference between 2.00 G/60 and 1.38 or lower.

But most egregious of all, I just simply forgot to filter for at least 50 mins of TOI, but you use that to pretend the stats mean nothing. What a joke. Armia has very little icetime. Lindstrom too.

It shows Ylonen can score.

 

[Jaynki]

I'm sorry, but you're just being childish now.

For one there's a SIGNIFICANT difference between 2.00 G/60 and 1.38 or lower.

But most egregious of all, I just simply forgot to filter for at least 50 mins of TOI, but you use that to pretend the stats mean nothing. What a joke. Armia has very little icetime. Lindstrom too.

It shows Ylonen can score.

Yes it shows he capitalised on his icetime this year.

Listen, i am not counter arguing your point.

I simply say that its reasonable to think that Monahan, Suzuki, Caufield, Gallagher, Anderson despite the slump, Newhook, Matheson, Guhle. are in a better spot to give us a late goal. Its not the coach hating Ylonen.

Im not in a hot take here.

 

[BLONG7]

I think we have easily at least 5-6 forward who are better scorer overall than Ylonen, despite having a rougher game than him yesterday.



Yes i dare criticises management? But who cares about Ylonen when we need a goal. That is grasping at straw.



Yes, ainec. Even with their current slump. They both are better player than dime-a-dozen Ylonen.

We have not seen enough of Ylonen yet................we have seen more than enough of Gally, and we are getting there on Anderson.

Imagine Ylonen actually gets moved up and plays with better players?

 

[Jaynki]

We have not seen enough of Ylonen yet................we have seen more than enough of Gally, and we are getting there on Anderson.

Imagine Ylonen actually gets moved up and plays with better players?

We have seen a lot of Ylonen. He is 24 years old and in the organisation since a while. I appreciate the flash but i would not get my hopes too high about discovering more there.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

We have seen a lot of Ylonen. He is 24 years old and in the organisation since a while. I appreciate the flash but i would not get my hopes too high about discovering more there.

More? I think most of us will take what he currently has and offers: speed, shot and the reasonable hope of some finish.

 

[Jaynki]

More? I think most of us will take what he currently has and offers: speed, shot and the reasonable hope of a some finish.

Indeed.

In what role tho?

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Indeed.

In what role tho?

A scoring forward, who can play in all game situations and increase the median speed of the team. One has to be realistic and see this year as a rebuilding season. It’s time to see what our young players can do. Some will succeed; some will fail; some will surprise and others will disappoint. The best we can reasonably expect is to have an entertaining team. Ylonen’s speed and dash helps to support that entertainment factor.

 

[HuGort]

A scoring forward, who can play in all game situations and increase the median speed of the team. One has to be realistic and see this year as a rebuilding season. It’s time to see what our young players can do. Some will succeed; some will fail; some will surprise and others will disappoint. The best we can reasonably expect is to have an entertaining team. Ylonen’s speed and dash helps to support that entertainment factor.

Pearson blocking his ice time. It was stupid trade for rebuilding team

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Ylonen won't ever be a line driver, he plays the passenger pretty well and he's scared of his own shadow, but as long as someone does the dirty work, he at least does have pretty good hands and a good enough shot to be dangerous, and for one, I'd prefer to see him take Anderson's place, maybe it'll push him further. Anderson needs to remember he's not a skill guy and to start playing a crash-and-bang game again, maybe playing on the 4th line will wake him up.

 

[26Mats]

Ylonen won't ever be a line driver, he plays the passenger pretty well and he's scared of his own shadow, but as long as someone does the dirty work, he at least does have pretty good hands and a good enough shot to be dangerous, and for one, I'd prefer to see him take Anderson's place, maybe it'll push him further. Anderson needs to remember he's not a skill guy and to start playing a crash-and-bang game again, maybe playing on the 4th line will wake him up.

I think Ylonen will get more physical over the years. Andrei Kostitsyn came into the NHL timid.
But with time he learned NHL physicality. He was a beast on the forecheck in his late 20s. I actually would be more surprised if Ylonen didn't follow this path. He really bulked up this summer, and he has the speed to get in on the forecheck.

 

[BLONG7]

We have seen a lot of Ylonen. He is 24 years old and in the organisation since a while. I appreciate the flash but i would not get my hopes too high about discovering more there.

Could be............given a real chance, and not with Pezz and Evans, who knows.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Pearson blocking his ice time. It was stupid trade for rebuilding team

I think we have bigger blockages than Pearson currently on the team and, if he stays healthy, I am hopeful he will garner us a fair return as we approach the trading deadline. Pearson has been much more effective than I had expected. I’m sure other teams have taken similar note.

 

[SlafySZN]

I'm sorry, but you're just being childish now.

For one there's a SIGNIFICANT difference between 2.00 G/60 and 1.38 or lower.

But most egregious of all, I just simply forgot to filter for at least 50 mins of TOI, but you use that to pretend the stats mean nothing. What a joke. Armia has very little icetime. Lindstrom too.

It shows Ylonen can score.

I like Ylonen and should by tried higher in the lineup but he played 10 games with a shooting percentage of 25% of course he is high right now in those kinds of stats.

 

[Miller Time]

I get why they haven't bumped Anderson, but it's about time to get Ylonen at least a few games to show what he can do in a bigger role & on the PP....

 

[26Mats]

We have seen a lot of Ylonen. He is 24 years old and in the organisation since a while. I appreciate the flash but i would not get my hopes too high about discovering more there.

He's still a young player, especially in terms of NHL experience. By definition there almost certainly is more there. It's just a matter of how much more.

I don't know how much more. But he always struck me as the type to be timid while getting his feet wet. But I hope to see who is when he comes out of his shell. The Vegas game is a nice confidence booster.

 

[BLONG7]

He's still a young player, especially in terms of NHL experience. By definition there almost certainly is more there. It's just a matter of how much more.

I don't know how much more. But he always struck me as the type to be timid while getting his feet wet. But I hope to see who is when he comes out of his shell. The Vegas game is a nice confidence booster.

He has speed...........he can score goals.

Interesting......................and oh, his best linemates are 4th line guys.

Guys like Gally and Anderson are no longer being developed......they are what they are.
MSL is suppose to develop this team, and it's younger players. Giving the kid 7.22 in ice time seems way off to me...............as the game goes on you would think, you would increase the icetime of the kid, and get the idiot who gets penalties in the dying minutes of a tie game OFF the ice.
Seriously, wtf is Gally doing on the ice, in the dying minutes?? I once loved the guy but now, it's time to move on, he is toast............and a liability, the refs hate him, and he can't skate anymore!!

 

[Apfel Struble]

I would like to see him play with Anderson actually. Add Evans as center and this is a 4th line that could burn slow defences on rushs. Probably would get hemmed in the dzone all the time though…

 

[26Mats]

I think we have bigger blockages than Pearson currently on the team and, if he stays healthy, I am hopeful he will garner us a fair return as we approach the trading deadline. Pearson has been much more effective than I had expected. I’m sure other teams have taken similar note.

Pearson is the bigger blockage for me, because Gally is here for the long haul since he's unmovable. Dvo and Anderson could be part of the medium turn or they could be traded for a medium return - if tey ever get back on track offensively. Monahan when healthy could be part of the future ot could get a huge return. So he's not blocking anyone. In if MSL would play him with the youth, that would be great for their development.

And, that leaves Pearson. I doubt he'll get us a decent return, Maybe a 3rd to 5th. And he's not part of the future We're blocking Ylonen and RHP for maybe a 3rd, 4th, or 5th. At any rate if we're going to play Pearson with Monahan to get such a pick, I hope we trade him ASAP, so we can get the pick and get back to developing Ylonen and RHP.

 

[Habssince89]

I think we have easily at least 5-6 forward who are better scorer overall than Ylonen, despite having a rougher game than him yesterday.

We need finishers. If he's in the lineup and he's hot why would you use a vet whose cold? The argument you're making is more appropriate for vets starting on the top of the lineup next game despite their poor play last game. But in the moment, when you're trying to win, you have to go with the hot hand.