Tribute Jesperi Kotkaniemi - Goodbye and Good Luck part II

[badi]

Love this Kid
Still think he has huge upside
We ll see ….

 

[Habs Icing]

Don't forget that Bouchard said that KK needs to listen to the coaches instead of saying "yes, but" and MB's press conference was kinda saying similar thing about KK needing to follow instructions better.

Wasn't that Ramage and not Bouchard?

 

[Habs Icing]

Yeah it doesn't make any sense at all.

Dreger's info are clearly agent side.

"I don't care, I don't believe it" reminds me of flat earthers. Evidences doesn't matter.

Funny you should mention flat earthers. I was going to post exactly that.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Yeah it doesn't make any sense at all.

Dreger's info are clearly agent side.

"I don't care, I don't believe it" reminds me of flat earthers. Evidences doesn't matter.

Must be nice to live life and warp reality to whatever fits your narrative and everything else is fake news. Sounds familiar

 

[superstar436]

Another thing that proves that drafting KK was a debacle from day one

 

[Ozmodiar]

Dregs helping out the Habs’ PR dept?? That’ll be the day. lol

 

[tazsub3]

Dregs helping out the Habs’ PR dept?? That’ll be the day. lol

I know, anyone thinking dreger is linked to the habs Pr, has not been following the Toronto centric hockey media the last 10 years lol

 

[waitin425]

I have loved KK for the past three years and have been pumping his tires. But.....if what Dreger says is true, he can crash and burn and prove me wrong all day.

Actually, he can crash and burn anyways now that he is in Carolina.

 

[angusyoung]

Stockholm syndrome is a thing....

You suggesting that KK was held hostage?

 

[Colezuki]

Well, listening to Macramalla 0n 690, he said that he spoke to someone inside the org this past weekend, said they saw warnings signs around his attitude all season around his maturity level, basically acting like he was better then he was.

I think KK will be fine long term but you cant have that attitude in a team environment without a willingness to learn, hope he matures over the long term if that's the case

 

[salbutera]

Another thing that proves that drafting KK was a debacle from day one

Not sure, as Marc Denis said this morning, drafting KK was based on what he had accomplished at a much younger age vs his peers. Habs took an educated guess KKs development curve would continue vs Zadina, Tkachuk et al.

Only time will tell whether Habs picked the wrong player, couldn’t develop the asset properly or a combo of both

 

[Ozmodiar]

Well, listening to Macramalla 0n 690, he said that he spoke to someone inside the org this past weekend, said they saw warnings signs around his attitude all season around his maturity level, basically acting like he was better then he was.

I think KK will be fine long term but you cant have that attitude in a team environment without a willingness to learn, hope he matures over the long term if that's the case

You could see this in his play.
He had a long stretch where he kept losing the puck after entering the offensive zone. I recall thinking “get it deep” or “you’re not skilled enough to do that” … but he kept trying losing the puck.

Not surprised to hear about issues with self-assessment or buy-in.

 

[DAChampion]

Losing a player like Tavares actually means something.

Yeah the Islanders improved.

 

[The Great Weal]

Wasn't that Ramage and not Bouchard?

Bouchard also said that during KKs AHL stint

 

[le_sean]

Yeah the Islanders improved.

They definitely did. But it wasn’t seen that way before. Losing your franchise player and captain isn’t the same as losing a 3rd liner.

 

[Habs Icing]

Bouchard also said that during KKs AHL stint

Interesting. This is the first time I heard of Bouchard's comment.

P.S. I'm not saying you're making it up. It just surprises me that I never heard it or read about it on this board before.

 

[RealityHurts]

I wished we'd stop talking about KK already.

He was never able to realize his potential in Montreal and was a bit of a baby when benched.

I rather take my shot with what we got in return from Carolina. Hopefully fortune instills upon us a top 5 pick. What's the worst that can happen? KK becomes a star elsewhere? Nothing points towards him doing the same here. Thus, I'd rather we're consequently worst off and draft earlier eventually because of this.

 

[MakeTheGoalsLarger]

I wished we'd stop talking about KK already.

He was never able to realize his potential in Montreal and was a bit of a baby when benched.

I rather take my shot with what we got in return from Carolina. Hopefully fortune instills upon us a top 5 pick. What's the worst that can happen? KK becomes a star elsewhere? Nothing points towards him doing the same here. Thus, I'd rather we're consequently worst off and draft earlier eventually because of this.

Players with shitty attitudes have found success before.KK just did not have that much potential to begin with.that's the thing.

 

[Max2]

Kotkaniemi always had that tinge of arrogance and immaturity about him.He's not as half as good as he thinks he is.I guess making big money and playing in the NHL at 18 will do that to some kids who aren't mentally prepared for it. Anyway,pyjama boy is the enemy now.

 

[CauZuki]

I know, anyone thinking dreger is linked to the habs Pr, has not been following the Toronto centric hockey media the last 10 years lol

So which is it , does he have inside information or is he not close to the organization? It's hard to imagine that both these things aren't mutually exclusive.

It wouldn't be a hard guess either that a 3rd overall who's scratched in the finals might be a sign of something brewing...

Let's just say that the report could have been anything(misbehaviour,mafia,drugs...) and some here would have still eaten it up with zero doubt...

The real question for me is how many 1st round fumbles are the Habs allowed before we stop automatically pointing the finger at the player?

 

[BarracudaMtl]

Good luck to you KK...

Now. GO HABS GO!

 

[Colezuki]

So which is it , does he have inside information or is he not close to the organization? It's hard to imagine that both these things aren't mutually exclusive.

It wouldn't be a hard guess either that a 3rd overall who's scratched in the finals might be a sign of something brewing...

Let's just say that the report could have been anything(misbehaviour,mafia,drugs...) and some here would have still eaten it up with zero doubt...

The real question for me is how many 1st round fumbles are the Habs allowed before we stop automatically pointing the finger at the player?

He could have agent information but not organization information, fwiw

 

[TannedBum]

Kotkaniemi always had that tinge of arrogance and immaturity about him.

100% true. He tries to behave humbly in front of the media, but has never fooled me. He's considered an arrogant prick in his hometown.

 

[sheed36]

100% true. He tries to behave humbly in front of the media, but has never fooled me. He's considered an arrogant prick in his hometown.

I wonder if anyone there referred to him as Cockyniemi if that's true.

 

[OldCraig71]

I wonder if anyone there referred to him as Cockyniemi if that's true.

Don Cherry came close to that lol. He called him Packayammy.