Player Discussion Jeremy Swayman -VI President Cam Speaks: Monty, Donny, & Charlie too!

[Gee Wally]

Mod edit: @smithformeragent

As this situation continues to drag on:

Please keep the conversation pertinent to the topic and avoid making it personal.

Debate about the management of the salary cap and the performance of the general manager fits into the context of the conversation, but we’ll avoid dividing fans into camps like “pro-player” and “team apologist”.

Thanks!

Continue if you must. No flaming!

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[UncleRico]

Again, what interjecting?
Did you watch the presser?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840781380629787053

Not the quote I’m talking about.

 

[HustleB]

I feel that the Bruins made it clear they didn't want this to be negotiated in the media. While the 8x8 offer looks fairly reasonable, this whole gambit is going to fall pretty flat, if Swayman's camp has been sitting at 8.5 and they thought they were still negotiating NTCs. I wouldn't be surprised if going nuclear leads to a departure, when an 8 year contract was within reach. I will never know all the details, but I feel like fans on this board are celebrating these comments, and I am more concerned.

I hope we still get that 8 year deal, but I'm no longer counting on it being just a matter of time.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

If it was good enough Swayman would have signed, no? The $9.5 million isn't my number, its based on the rumor that he wants the McAvoy deal. With the cap expected to have strong yearly raises now that escrow has been paid back, what's $400k to $800k more from where you want to be to get this over the finish line?

Those slight overpayment add up fast.

 

[Bruins4Lifer]

Bad day to be in the "Swayman doesn't want to reset the goalie market" camp

 

[Gee Wally]

Not the quote I’m talking about.

But it is the quote Im talking about. A question directed to and responded to by Cam.

 

[smithformeragent]

I think it's clear that management is still smarting from the comments from Bissonette with regards to not returning phone calls for three weeks.

A message was sent today with the "64 million reasons".

Cam could have easily said "We made what we feel is a fair, significant offer to invest in Jeremy and our team. The details will remain between Jeremy, his representatives, and the club. We respect the process."

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

One thing seems pretty clear to me at this point: when Swayman said he loves playing for Boston and wants to stay here, it was just lip service. Must have learned it in business school.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

I mean swayman definitely sounded bad complaining in that interview, but bruins management opening talking about it and having Neely say “oh there’s $64 million reasons why swayman should be playing”

Then when talking about the figure Neely chiming in saying he was surprised.

I don’t think this is a good look for anyone involved. Everyone acting like a bunch of children.

Everyone was fawning over Marchand saying he keep contract negotiations private.

But now those same people love bruins management speaking about swaymans contract demands in a degrogatory manner.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840796447760896509

 

[Hookslide]

Guys we don't need to trade him. He has NO leverage.

He sits and sits and burns his career. He HAS to sign.

Do you want a malcontent ?

 

[smithformeragent]

One thing seems pretty clear to me at this point: when Swayman said he loves playing for Boston and wants to stay here, it was just lip service. Must have learned it in business school.

They teach you how to underline in college.

 

[Carl Hungus]

The difference is both sides have been using the media and then Neely decided to go unprofessional and nuked it. “We really want Jeremy regardless of the fact he’s a greedy person. Be sure to cheer him on regardless after we sign it”

I want sway signed too. But grasping at straws here imo. If sways camp leaked the “low ball” and “unresponsive” stuff, I don’t see how this isn’t an equal caliber response?

 

[SwayHeyKid]

Bad day to be in the "Swayman doesn't want to reset the goalie market" camp

Even if he wants a shorter term deal and not interested in 8 years?

 

[smithformeragent]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840796447760896509

And now both sides play the spin game.

If a deal does get done, it's kumbaya, forgive and forget.

But in the meantime, this is a rock fight.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

I want sway signed too. But grasping at straws here imo. If sways camp leaked the “low ball” and “unresponsive” stuff, I don’t see how this isn’t an equal caliber response?

Leaking is one thing both sides did it. For the president of the team to say that? lol. Talk about thin skin

 

[UncleRico]

But it is the quote Im talking about. A question directed to and responded to by Cam.

Ok well I’m talking about the interjection on the one I quoted.

I understand that’s the one you’re taking about. Which would be fair if that was the only thing cam Neely said.

However it wasn’t. But if you want to play that game then go for it.

 

[SwayHeyKid]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840778897413034489

 

[smithformeragent]

This is different than a player at any other position sitting out because there's such a singular focus on goaltending.

It's a very individual position.

If this thing doesn't get resolved, the microscope over Korpisalo and Bussi will be intense.

I'm dreading the GDT posts of "Swayman would have saved that" and "If Swayman's in net, that's two points in the standings."

 

[ON3M4N]

Those slight overpayment add up fast.

Of course they do, but if you're going to slightly overpay wouldn't you rather it be on your young foundational pieces that are difference makers?

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840796447760896509

Cam has a hard time not being honest.

In this day and age, I guess that's a major flaw.

 

[Absurdity]

Swayman and his agent made contract negotiations public when news came out that the Bruins haven't returned Gross' calls for three weeks, and that the Bruins are low-balling Swayman.

Sweeney and Neely deserve the criticism they get, heck I have shit on Neely a few times, but this management team has never made any trade discussions or contract negotiations public to anyone.

 

[Carl Hungus]

Leaking is one thing both sides did it. For the president of the team to say that? lol. Talk about thin skin

Fair enough

Either way, I think turning down 8x8 is a wild move, but I do want Sway in net so this whole situation is very unfortunate

 

[ON3M4N]

Bad day to be in the "Swayman doesn't want to reset the goalie market" camp

Not really because to this day those words have never come out of his mouth.

 

[Hookslide]

Firing his agent and claiming ignorance seems to be Swayman's only way out here

Well, he has the ignorant part down.

 

[smithformeragent]

Swayman and his agent made contract negotiations public when news came out that the Bruins haven't returned Gross' calls for three weeks, and that the Bruins are low-balling Swayman.

Sweeney and Neely deserve the criticism they get, heck I have shit on Neely a few times, but this management team has never made any trade discussions or contract negotiations public to anyone.

Yep.

That was an initial shot across the bow.

Today was the retaliatory return fire.

Make no mistake about it. Everything both sides says and does is calculated.

 

[dangermike]

Bad look by management here crying to the media about this. Can tell it’s getting under managements skin.

Certainly doesn’t look good around the league to have Cam Neely making comments saying “swayman has $64 million reasons to be playing right now”

Players and agents are definitely taking note.

are they crying or are they offering an unproven full time goal tender top 5 money and hes telling podcasters that hes being insulted by offers? bc it doesnt really feel like crying to me, it feels like a direct message