Confirmed with Link: Jeff Skinner -- Bought Out 6/29/24

[Baccus]

You compared Skinner's scenario to O'Reilly, and the two situations are much different. Yes, players/teams can want to drop each other...you never know. I don't see indicators of that, not to the point that a NMC should matter as much as some posters here worry about. Let's both agree to drop it.

I compared a recently acquired player being resigned to a long term deal with another. I never brought in or even suggested anything to do with personality types real or imagined.

NMC matters if things change. Things change all the time. The bolded is not what you said/suggested in your original post.

 

[Hellinator]

Generally if things go bad enough that a team wants to part with a player then a player doesn't want to stay in that environment anyways. It only matters what we get in return for said player and considering we didn't give up anything serious to get him here, I don't expect much in return if he sucks. The cap hit is more of an issue than his NMC.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

HockeyBuzz.com - Peter Tessier - Should the Skinner deal make Jets fans nervous?

Interesting article by the Jets hockeybuzz writer.

So Skinner receives 9 million a year for the next 8 years. Skinner's deal is a bit weird in that the salaries and signing bonuses are a bit odd but only to deal with the impending labour battle between the NHL and NHLPA. Next season Skinner receives a 7.5m bonus and 2.5m in salary and the same concluding after the 21-22 season when the collective bargaining agreement expires.

Within 3 years Skinner will have earned 37.5m total of the 72m. Not bad.


This is the list of players who have scored 120 more goals from 2015-16 to the end of 2018-19 by the age of 27.

Here is the list for players scoring 200 or more goals since 2010-11 by age 27. Notice an old Jets friend?

Skinner is an elite scorer and there's not question about it. When you update that benchmark to 240 the list is four players. Stamkos, Seguin, Skinner and Tavares. Now look at their salaries.

So where do guys like Laine and Connor fit into all of this?.....
......It's safe to say that they are not Jeff Skinner yet and Skinner has played on teams far worse than what the Winnipeg Jets have been the past 3 seasons.

Edit - here’s another article with positive takes on the skinner deal.

HockeyBuzz.com - HockeyBuzz Hotstove - Thoughts on Jeff Skinner's lucrative extension with the Buffalo Sabres?

 

[Tatre]

HockeyBuzz.com - Peter Tessier - Should the Skinner deal make Jets fans nervous?

Interesting article by the Jets hockeybuzz writer.



Edit - here’s another article with positive takes on the skinner deal.

HockeyBuzz.com - HockeyBuzz Hotstove - Thoughts on Jeff Skinner's lucrative extension with the Buffalo Sabres?

"95% chance to win a cup before [the contract hurts]"
What is this Tanner character smoking?

 

[CatsforReinhart]

I am probably in the majority that we need Skinner and it might be 1m too much but glad he is back.

 

[Reddawg]

I am probably in the majority that we need Skinner and it might be 1m too much but glad he is back.

Right there with you.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

If this was true then why is Crosby the "head and shoulders" best player in the league (or was at least) over Ovechkin? I agree with you btw though.

Do they have the same number of points? One goal is better than one assist. I’m not sure one goal is better than 2 assists.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

"95% chance to win a cup before [the contract hurts]"
What is this Tanner character smoking?

Yeah I got a laugh out of that line too.

 

[Buffaloed]

Congrats to Skinner! I was hoping for an 8.5 x 8 deal but figured it might get this high. My letter to Skinner:

Dear Jeff,

Congrats on becoming a Buffalonian and future long time Sabre. I wish you much success and health here, hopefully until the end of your long career.

Best Regards,
Hellinator

P.S. If you go out to celebrate your huge contract, please stay away from Tim Hortons or take an Uber. Thanks!

Oh and don't punch a cab driver or fight in Buffalo bars. Did I cover everything?

Make sure the Uber driver isn't recording.

 

[sabremike]

 

[Chrisinroch]

I just hope there arent some brutal clauses attached that would prevent us from moving him in the last 2 years when things almost surely will be ugly as hell.

You don’t want to move him in the last 2 years. That’s when you start to burn off your recapture. You need him on the roster then.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

This guy had 24 goals and 49 points last season playing 82 games. Aren't you afraid that the 40 goals were a fluke?

Are you afraid that you’re on the wrong team’s board?

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

I know hes possibly playing it up a bit in this letter, but damn I love this guy

 

[Aladyyn]

This guy had 24 goals and 49 points last season playing 82 games. Aren't you afraid that the 40 goals were a fluke?

No, the 95 PDO season was the fluke.

 

[Buffaloed]

Meet the Skinners redux
Jeff Skinner using lessons from family, figure skating to succeed with Sabres

Older brother Ben had a monster year playing in Germany. At age 29 he put up 52G, 60A. Not bad for a 34 game schedule. They play an uptempo Andy Delmore defensive style. He's also a free agent.
Ben Skinner at eliteprospects.com

 

[tsujimoto74]

You don’t want to move him in the last 2 years. That’s when you start to burn off your recapture. You need him on the roster then.

That's not how that works. Recapture exclusively exists for front-loaded deals longer than 8 years, i.e., signed under the last CBA, like Shea Weber's.

 

[Bisons6]

Still like to know why Carolina did not recapture him.

 

[JThorne]

Someone start giving Skinner different materials in his gear. If he starts now, he can develop that "allergy" to his equipment before the end of the contract.

Or does that "allergy" come on immediately? I forget...

 

[jputt99]

I don't expect him to hit 40 every year but it would be damn cool to see him get 50 one year

I think he will get 50 , at least once or twice before he retires .

 

[MayDayMayDay]

I love this deal for both sides. 9 million is totally fair. Skinny's elite skating, his hockey IQ, his opportunistic willingness to go to the net and look for rebounds, his grit and leadership... He's going to age like a fine wine, especially playing on Eich's wing. This is a huge piece we just locked up boys. We shouldn't be anything less than thrilled.

 

[sufferer]

Think he'll get an A stitched on his jersey for this upcoming season? He's really proven to be a consummate pro and teammate.

 

[Buffaloed]

Think he'll get an A stitched on his jersey for this upcoming season? He's really proven to be a consummate pro and teammate.

Maybe he will get the S
Here's Casey Mittlestadt modeling the new jerseys.

 

[sufferer]

Maybe he will get the S
Here's Casey Mittlestadt modeling the new jerseys.

Oh, hell yeah. The cape will definitely help with drawing penalties.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Maybe he will get the S
Here's Casey Mittlestadt modeling the new jerseys.

FINALLY, royal blue.

 

[Chrisinroch]

That's not how that works. Recapture exclusively exists for front-loaded deals longer than 8 years, i.e., signed under the last CBA, like Shea Weber's.

So what happens to the built up extra cap value in the “out years”?