Confirmed with Link: Jay Woodcroft and Dave Manson fired - no more Woody during NNN - Kris Knoblauch hired, Coffey as assistant

[5 14 6 1]

Drip drip drip drip drip

 

[Cloned]

Rishaug asking if more accountability needed to be demonstrated to the team by coaching staff, holding guys to account. Holland on a rambler again, says 'that's a really good question'. Attaboy, way to earn that $5 million Holland.

Holland basically blamed the players. He's essentially saying they're uncoachable if you read between the lines.

 

[ZJuice]

Holland “it’s hard to hold guys accountable when you have a 21 man roster instead of 23”
Holland “the team is making mistakes.. boo boos.. new coach hopefully less boo boos”

Do not trust my quoting or paraphrasing, my mind is insane

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Nobody is accountable for anything in this organization

 

[TheNumber4]

we had a good coach and we are replacing him with a rookie with no practice days between games. We better hope for a big bounce from the coaching change because this team got another coach fired (5 since Todd) and there's no reason to think Knoblauch will do any better. Jay deserved more of a leash.

Agreed. Especially when you consider how much the players like him, the FACT that they have NOT checked out, the FACT that analytically they are still pushing the pace of games and controlling play, and the FACT that goaltending has been League worse during this stretch.

f***in Panic Move was made. And no reasonings as to why the move was made in the press conference sounds logical or rational.

 

[Shizuka]

Holland basically blamed the players. He's essentially saying they're uncoachable if you read between the lines.

Which leads to the very apropos question asked earlier, if there needs to be changes to the core. Which led to Holland saying he believes in the core. So which is it, Holland? SMH at the flip flopping.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Just verbal diarrhea from Holland, what else is new. Knoblauch was coaching yesterday and was flown here to take over tomorrow. Great timing and prep work by the organization.. really.

Gregor with a salient point about coaching paying the price, again, for a team that is underperforming. Holland says they're in 'win now' mode. Change needed immediately. Knoblauch asked how quickly he will put his imprint on the team. Says you can only do so much with systems change, lineups, etc. Wants to get feedback from vets and young guys, coaching staff, etc.

f***ing Holland mentions Jackson and makes special mention of Coffey.. maybe in deference?? Anyways, Rishaug with the pointed question with the 'unique' situation of a senior advisor stepping to coach, and to clarify. Coffey said he was surprised.. was content being in his 'advisory' role. Talks about 'respect' for Katz, 'Mr. Katz..' and Jeff, etc. Does he have NHL coaching exp, no, does he understand the game yes, players yes. Tychowski asks if the team tuned out Woodcroft, Holland says he doesn't think so, thinks some disappointed players in there. Said they couldn't wait another 10 games to see them work out the issues, change needed immediately.

Tychowski asks Jackson about x amount of coaches in x years, maybe some change needed in the core of the lineup? Jackson said he came out 3 months ago, can't control the past but here long term and also here to win. Holland now chipping in unsolicited, citing his belief in the core. The time is now, blah blah blah.

Knobluach speaks the truth. Hes right, the problem is he is coming into a terrible situation where players are under performing and our best player seems hurt. People want immediate results and it's going to take time for Knob to get his imprint on the team. this is 100% on the players and only the players can fix it.

 

[frag2]

Nobody is accountable for anything in this organization

Starts at the top. No one holds Holland accountable so theres no need to hold the players

 

[ZJuice]

Coffey waiting for this to end so he can have a nap

 

[Drivesaitl]

Well, the lip readers were right, Jay and Manson knew they were fired after the SJ game.

Everything I've heard is that this was Jackson's hire, even the description of how it went down sounds like "Jackson ordered me to fire woodcroft, so I made the hard decision to do it". Pretty clear Holland is a lame duck GM at this point

I'm pretty convinced even the game plan last night was revised. Radically different D positional usage and stressing front of net presence more than we've seen all season. Something as simple as that made differences last night. Players collapsing in coverage made a difference.

Coffey has been making suggestions for awhile, and this has been on the burner for awhile. I'd wonder how long.

The way I see it the org is acknowledging (like the plaeyrs do) that they were drastically outcoached last spring and in both series and that change was needed. However given Woody's record prior he was given a chance to implement some changes. His changes were a tirefire and seriously any coach deserves to get fired with a 2-9-1 record. Decision was already made as several pundits point out. Everybody on the team knew of coaching change before yesterdays game. Thus the team having more jump.

Holland is a figurehead. he was long before arriving here. But agreed he's not calling the shots. I felt with Campbell being sent down that was a message as well given that was Hollands find.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

I wonder if McLellan brings Woody back into the fold in LA.

What I find interesting is a HC gets to pick his staff. Knoblach inherits the forever incumbent Schwartz, Gulutzan and has Coffey gifted a position.

All I can do is laugh at this point.

 

[Tarus]

Well, at least Kris realizes that repeated and lazy mistakes needs to be addressed and the player held accountable for it.

He's got a leg up on Woodcroft already. Just need to see the follow-through

 

[frag2]

I wonder if McLellan brings Woody back into the fold in LA.

What I find interesting is a HC gets to pick his staff. Knoblach inherits the forever incumbent Schwartz, Gulutzan and has Coffey gifted a position.

All I can do is laugh at this point.

GG I can sorta understand. But the other 2 assistants...omfg

 

[5 14 6 1]

To me this sounds like a panic hire, and the new guy doesn't seem to have a plan

 

[Ritchie Valens]

GG I can sorta understand. But the other 2 assistants...omfg

Gulutzan for sure.

 

[Cloned]

Stauffer asked a good question for once.

Which leads to the very apropos question asked earlier, if there needs to be changes to the core. Which led to Holland saying he believes in the core. So which is it, Holland? SMH at the flip flopping.

He can't really say the opposite though.

 

[TheNumber4]

Coffey is up. He's like everything he's seen about this blue line except their consistency. So he's going to focus on fixing consistency.

OK. Teach consistency then. If you know how.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

All i hear is a bunch of cliche, Waiting for the "one shift at a time" and "pucks in deep".

 

[Duder54]

Zone defence is here to stay baby.

 

[RattsSSV]

And Schwartz survives another head coach firing.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

More Sirens lol

 

[Drivesaitl]

Pressers have nothing to do with anything. They don't tell you much of anything. Only on ice results clarify anything. I don't know if all orgs do this but with the Oilers there seems to be in inordinate amount of press conferences and even more Titanic press conferences.

But I hold hope Knoblauch and Coffey will have some answers. is Gulutzen retained?

 

[booyakasha]

as soon as you heard "Bob Stauffer here...."

Oilers fans :

 

[Cloned]

I think Knoblauch has some good ideas. Remains to be seen if they'll pan out.

More sirens.

 

[Shizuka]

Stauffer asked a good question for once.


He can't really say the opposite though.

He's not that type, I agree. But the subtext isn't great to see or read into as a fan.