Confirmed with Link: Jay Woodcroft and Dave Manson fired - no more Woody during NNN - Kris Knoblauch hired, Coffey as assistant

And has made the playoffs once.
So we replace Woody with objectively a worse coach. Why???
So it is all linear then? What one coach does somewhere with different human beings will 100% correlate to the Oilers?

Why do other coaches get fired for missing the playoffs then go to other teams and win?
 
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Do you want Connor and Drai not to re-sign? Because hiring Sutter will make them leave.
I want them to be held accountable, I want a coach to be hard on them and to preach that there's two ends of the ice, I don't want coaches constantly catering to them by playing them too much while alienating the rest of the team and putting them together when they can't co-exist with linemates.

Sutter won't put up with that shit. I actually want them to feel uncomfortable, that might be exactly what they need to round out their games and have their "Yzerman" moments. It's what Bowman did for Stevie Y. and Bowman was one of the more unlikeable coaches to play with.
If they can't handle hard coaching then they aren't willing to do what it takes to for.

I think it'll be more of the same with Knoblauch, just another puppet coach that won't hold players accountable. Hope I'm wrong.
 
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It takes team effort to win Corsi. You don’t out shoot and out chance by the margins we are seeing by not putting in effort. We aren’t losing cause we’re mailing it in and being lazy. We’re losing cause we are make glaring mistakes whilst getting League worst goaltending whilst the offensive execution and confidence has gone into a deep dry spell. Lots of things that may not be on the coaching.
It’s easy to outchance teams when you throw a bunch of muffins from the outside and half the shots you give up are in the slot and end up in the net.

There’s a reason why no one pays attention to Corsi anymore.
 
Do you think these guys would play hard for Sutter? I actually like the guy but I don’t think it would work with this team.
Yes. Cause they want to Win and Sutter has a way of convincing teams he can provide the path. Yes eventually the shelf life thing happens with Sutter, it’s a risk but with how Sutter’s system can change things drastically it may be worth that risk.

Knoblauch or anyone else is a risk too. Losing with anyone will kill the McDrai era.
 
It’s easy to outchance teams when you throw a bunch of muffins from the outside and half the shots you give up are in the slot and end up in the net.

There’s a reason why no one pays attention to Corsi anymore.
Also easy to out corsi when you are behind and the opposing team isn’t pushing anymore.
 

I also thought they might give a bit more time for your golden boy to turn it around. But I think the decision was made before the road trip, and the San Jose game was the straw that broke the camels back, regardless of last nights result. A bit unfortunate, as I think a lot of it rests on the players. They're becoming known as coach killers. But Jay had his issues as well, and I think lost respect and command of the room.
 
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Classic Oilers stupidity. Woodcroft isn’t blameless here but he damned sure didn’t teach his forwards to play like a bunch of lazy p***yes, he didn’t give lobotomies to his braindead D corp, and he didn’t give his goalies an epic case of the “yips.” So the players get a free pass again. McDavid gets his childhood coach and Katz gets a HOF buddy on the bench because, well, just because. I thought the Jackson hire would truly end the old boys club. But here we are. f*** this team.
 
I want them to be held accountable, I want a coach to be hard on them and to preach that there's two ends of the ice, I don't want coaches constantly catering to them by playing them too much while alienating the rest of the team and putting them together when they can't co-exist with linemates.

Sutter won't put up with that shit. I actually want them to feel uncomfortable, that might be exactly what they need to round out their games and have their "Yzerman" moments. It's what Bowman did for Stevie Y. and Bowman was one of the more unlikeable coaches to play with.
If they can't handle hard coaching then they aren't willing to do what it takes to win.
That’s likely what Coffey is for, he has Katz’s ear and his job is as safe as Schwartz’s…lol.
 
I do agree with you but the reality is when you’re as accomplished as Coffey is, you have a little bit more leeway. He doesn’t need to go through the ringers and work his way up from the minors to land an assistant coaching position.

I do wish he had some experience but I get it at the same time. I don’t agree with it but we’ll see how it goes now. Maybe for once it’ll work.
Maurice Richard was a terrible NHL Coach. Wayne Gretzky, a horrible NHL coach as well. Being an accomplished player means f*** all when it comes to transitioning to coaching. It’s why you look for someone who cut their teeth in various roles proving that they ARE effective. The Oilers aren’t in a position for Coffey to be apprenticing as a coach. I’m not saying he couldn’t develop into a quality coach, but he has done nothing to make it his vocation and the current situation demands high level, effective people in these roles NOW, not someone that is going to learn in his first NHL a assistant coach assignment. Heck even the rest of his coaching experience is very scant.

Oh well. I think I will sit out for a while. I cant get excited about this club at this time. They just cant help themselves from stumbling over themselves.
 
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Spending a lot of time talking about how McDavid is running the show, the organization doing whatever it takes to make sure him and Draisaitl and possibly Nurse, the core, are happy more than anything. That Ekholm was possibly a Woodcroft guy who represented a change in defensive play and the boys didn't like it, because they don't want to have to play harder in their own end but would just rather keep it about offense. Upset that Barrie is gone for that reason too.

Pandering to the players they say. How McDrai won't have another opportunity to go to another team and have the level of pull and say in decision making that they have in Edmonton, so they have a pretty cool deal on the Oilers right now.

Basically I interpret that as the players are selfish little pricks who don't care about the actual team and just want their own little country club. This is all just radio speculation, and I'm not sold one way or the other. But if there's any truth to any of it, the organization is in a lose-lose situation.
 
It’s easy to outchance teams when you throw a bunch of muffins from the outside and half the shots you give up are in the slot and end up in the net.

There’s a reason why no one pays attention to Corsi anymore.

When I say Corsi I sue it as a cat hall for analytics. We are killing it in XGF where shot quality is taken into account too aren’t we?
 
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Coffeys coaching experience on wikipedia lol

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When I say Corsi I sue it as a cat hall for analytics. We are killing it in XGF where shot quality is taken into account too aren’t we?
It is to an extend. A sure thing goal and a goal taken from a dangerous area but with no force and is a muffin are both taken as high danger.
 

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