Jason Botterill Discussion Part 5

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Jame

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I'm looking forward to the goalie acquisition he makes at the trade deadline... after we go 500 the next few weeks, and remain solidly outside the playoff picture. That acquisition will obviously be accompanied by paying someone a 5th rounder to take Bogo's contract, so we have the cap space to acquire said goaltender....
 

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It is incredible the few spots in the lineup he has filled with long term solutions since his tenure began. Dahlin at LD, Pilut at LD, Joker at RD, Skinner at LW, Olofsson at LW (maybe montour at RD, maybe)....and that is about it (and virtually none of those were him actively doing anything). Meanwhile, he has actually created holes that previously had long term solutions.

Dahlin was the lottery, Olofsson was a Murray draft pick. Skinner was a nice trade but was done to replace the loss of Kane. Notice how Boterrill always seems to be behind and his biggest needs he creates himself. Now the ROR trade and what does Buffalo need the most? A top 6 center.

Tired of watching this guy chase his tail and not improve the team instead of make it worse.
 

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I'm looking forward to the goalie acquisition he makes at the trade deadline... after we go 500 the next few weeks, and remain solidly outside the playoff picture. That acquisition will obviously be accompanied by paying someone a 5th rounder to take Bogo's contract, so we have the cap space to acquire said goaltender....

I doubt this happens only because I don’t see Botts having a sense of urgency to try to save the season. I’m expecting a revolving door of JJ, UPL and Hammond.
 

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This should put into perspective just how awful a job Botts has done:

The Islanders submitted a proposal to build a new arena, had the plan approved, went through all the red tape imposed by our disgusting and corrupt legal and political system, began construction and will open said arena (Fall 2021) before Botts puts together a team even capable of being able to kind of compete for a playoff spot (much less earn one).
 

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I'm starting to believe that JB is too much of a 'players GM' and isn't capable of being in charge of the ship and making tough decisions.

I'm sure after next year he'll be gone, and we'll restart the 4 year plan yet again.
 

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After watching last night's fail and any glimmers of playoffs hopes all but fade away... then watching Frolik do nothing... and reading about the ROR trade on the main boards and reliving old traumas.. the more and more I'm on the FIRE BOTTS bandwagon. A bit reactionary maybe but so sick of watching this roster miss the playoffs. I wish Foligno was on this team. Soft soft soft sickening.

Mathematically out of the playoffs next year and Botterill should be canned on the spot in a very unpolite manner.
 

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@BannersSabres on Twitter is just killing it right now:
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If Botts could pull off the following trade I would forgive him for all his past transgressions:

DJ Milk to Dallas for their in house DJ.

That would be a 10× bigger robbery than the ROR trade, only in our favor.
 
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I'm starting to believe that JB is too much of a 'players GM' and isn't capable of being in charge of the ship and making tough decisions.

I'm sure after next year he'll be gone, and we'll restart the 4 year plan yet again.

And I’m sure everyone who hated Murray’s trades of futures for middling players and use of cap will line up to hate on Jason’s tenure as well since he’s done the same f***ing thing.
 

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What's the difference between firing Botterill now or on locker clean out day? Fan appeasement? We would gain nothing from a new GM. No chance a new GM could turn this season around by the trade deadline.

I think we get a housley style firing of Botts as soon as the off season starts. I just hope whoever replaces him keeps krueger.
 

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What's the difference between firing Botterill now or on locker clean out day? Fan appeasement? We would gain nothing from a new GM. No chance a new GM could turn this season around by the trade deadline.

I think we get a housley style firing of Botts as soon as the off season starts. I just hope whoever replaces him keeps krueger.

Potentially limits the damage he could do between now and the trade deadline.
 

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"If you want the team mediocre and disorganized, then Botterill is the man for the job"

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I watched Mad Men sporadically ca. 2009-10. There's a scene after Don, Roger, & Bertram leave Sterling-Cooper to form the new agency where the three debate bringing in Lane, who had fired them at their request. Don looks at Roger and Bertram and bluntly states "I can't do his job."

Percentages that this team fires Botterill at the conclusion of the season?
On par with a species-killing meteor strike.

I think 50/50

Pegula has shown that he is willing to give a regime a fair shake and not act too quickly. And botts seems to have been given a fair shake at this point with no success
Pegula should zip up and realize his "fair shake" has dribbled his sneakers.

Didn't listen or read one second of whatever noises uncorked from him today.

I'm done bashing Botterill. He's an idiot who doesn't know he's an idiot.

This is on Terry, and always has been. Sadly, we can't wish for his firing.
Still wishing Botterill would change his name to Dunning, so the franchise can be led by Dunning-Kruger (sic).
Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia
I'm looking forward to the goalie acquisition he makes at the trade deadline... after we go 500 the next few weeks, and remain solidly outside the playoff picture. That acquisition will obviously be accompanied by paying someone a 5th rounder to take Bogo's contract, so we have the cap space to acquire said goaltender....
I'd take one of the Rangers Russian backups, regardless.

Dahlin was the lottery, Olofsson was a Murray draft pick. Skinner was a nice trade but was done to replace the loss of Kane. Notice how Boterrill always seems to be behind and his biggest needs he creates himself. Now the ROR trade and what does Buffalo need the most? A top 6 center.

Tired of watching this guy chase his tail and not improve the team instead of make it worse.
Skinner and Joker were dropped in his lap. I think @threeVo is correct, re: Legwand.

Alex, I'll take idiots for 30.

"He’s the only three-time Gold Medal, World Junior guy in the world. He’s a smart guy, and he does a good job.“
$30 ?? That's old-school mid-1970's Art Fleming era daytime Jeopardy round ($10, 20, 30, 40, 50). Double Jeopardy was $20, 40, 60, 80, 100. I remember watching with my mom and siblings in the basement where we had our B&W TV. We'd come home for lunch on occasion from our elementary school around the corner. Contestants had conical paper water cups in holders on their podiums. But to a child like me, they looked like upside down triangles, and I couldn't understand why they wouldn't fall over when resting on their apex.
 

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And I’m sure everyone who hated Murray’s trades of futures for middling players and use of cap will line up to hate on Jason’s tenure as well since he’s done the same ****ing thing.
Players our cap genius has wasted cap on this year alone:

Sheary
Sobotka
Vesey
Miller
Hunwick
Hutton

Total salary used on crapola this year? 17.5 million (ish). Couldve that been spent wisely elsewhere? Hm....

If you add Frolik and Montour that's another 8 million+
 

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I watched Mad Men sporadically ca. 2009-10. There's a scene after Don, Roger, & Bertram leave Sterling-Cooper to form the new agency where the three debate bringing in Lane, who had fired them at their request. Don looks at Roger and Bertram and bluntly states "I can't do his job."

Haha, its a great scene. If only Botts could have been up front and honest like that. :laugh:
 

Jame

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What's the difference between firing Botterill now or on locker clean out day? Fan appeasement? We would gain nothing from a new GM. No chance a new GM could turn this season around by the trade deadline.

I think we get a housley style firing of Botts as soon as the off season starts. I just hope whoever replaces him keeps krueger.

Preventing him from doing another Montour like trade at the deadline...
 

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Players our cap genius has wasted cap on this year alone:

Sheary
Sobotka
Vesey
Miller
Hunwick
Hutton

Total salary used on crapola this year? 17.5 million (ish). Couldve that been spent wisely elsewhere? Hm....

If you add Frolik and Montour that's another 8 million+

Berglund's gift to Botterill can't be ignored either. :biglaugh:
 

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Preventing him from doing another Montour like trade at the deadline...

I'm scared of him trading away Reinhart away for the same "reasons" why he traded ROR.

The scary part is that there is no signing bonus being a barrier for a trade.

Any playoff contending team would take Reinhart in a heartbeat and I can honestly see Botts trading him for a 1st round pick.
 
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