Jason Botterill Discussion Part 5
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Fatass
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Are you watching tonight? Hutton is way off his angles. It’s hard for a team to play with confidence when their goalie is letting in weak perimeter goals. Not going to get Hasek, but a Miller level guy would be helpful, don’t you think?
Good starter/backup tandem actually makes this team, with all its problems, close to a playoff spot. Even going .500 in the 12 game losing streak pushes them to within 2 points of a spot today. Really.
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The serious flaws of this team will still remain. We went through this with the 10 game streak last season. Once goaltending fell back to earth, this team and the flaws on this team came to the forefront and we watched this team implode.
This year’s team is no different than last year’s team. We just have different faces. I don’t want this team’s failures masked by goaltending Just for a chance at the playoffs.
Ha, ha, that is the quote that set me off too. Unbelievable! That and mentioning having to draft well in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Goaltending is outside of my top 10 issues with this team. It will need to be addressed. But there are a ton more glaring issues with this team than need to be handled first.
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IMO a team should build from the net out. Poor goaltending is hard on the team.
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OkimLom
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Not in today’s game. You can get stellar goaltending from anybody when you have a competent and highly effective/efficient team system.
The streak was the goaltending playing outside it's known levels. We're talking about getting bog standard NHL average tending out of the backup spot and it's potentially 5-6 more points in the standings. That's not nothing.
This team could use a good pee pee slappin'.
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Why don't you doubt he is smart? And what is your measuring stick for smart? I'll hang up and listen.
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goaltending is an issue, but it’s not one of the most important issues this team has IMO. It’s not a priority for me at the moment. Solid team play would put less pressure on the goaltender and give him an easier workload to handle. Fixing the goaltending isn’t going to make the defenseman making the right reads. Fixing the goaltending isn’t going to make our forwards come back to support the defense. It’s not going to make our forwards shoot and pass better.
I’m just of the opinion there are more pressing needs for the team that need fixing ahead of goaltending.
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His strengths are knowing the factual information that comes into the sport management side of things. Stuff that can be measured, that he compute. Having the knowledge of something like the CBA and knowing when and where to utilize that knowledge.
His weaknesses lie in the “out of the box” stuff. The areas of evaluating player personnel. The constructing of a team that have many variables to them. The ability to understand the value of the market on players. Things you don’t learn from a book, but from “instincts”, and from experience Of scouting and understanding what makes a player good or bad.
He’s most likely really efficient in organizing information together so that’s it’s accessible for the team.
No, it really is an important issue. They are a fragile team. They can't afford to have someone let in a stinker or more than one stinker in a close game. It doesn't matter if they are playing a solid structure when the goaltenders let in absolutely everything. Hutton crushed them tonight with 3 goals I'm sure he would like to have back. Yes, they had multiple defensive breakdowns and not a lot of sustained pressure, but you can see the team go flat when weak goals go in the net. They aren't mutually exclusive. But even if everyone comes back hard and has their man and is skating hard on the backcheck, Hutton is letting in shitty, shitty goals against. Great D isn't going to solve that and the team has to grow into how to handle those situations.
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Not that it's a stretch after the ROR trade, but I'm starting to think the Pegulas ended up hiring a second rookie GM in a row because they won't give anybody any real autonomy.
Can you imagine another GM's team failing about, out of the playoffs, heading to the trade deadline and them publicly saying they'd have to go ask Mom & Dad what they think he should do? This after setting up most of his forward group to be UFA after the season....
I'm going back into hibernation.
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Lowlights of Botterill interview
Botterill: 'Terry and Kim are frustrated'
Audio 2-4 Jason Botterill with Schopp and the Bulldog
Botterill: 'Terry and Kim are frustrated'
Audio 2-4 Jason Botterill with Schopp and the Bulldog
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OkimLom
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Again, I’m not saying it’s NOT an issue, it’s just further down the list that needs repairing IMO. I wish it was a top 3 issue with this team for me.
As much as having confidence in your goaltender is important to the team, it also weighs a ton on the goaltenders when your team gives up 2 on 1’s like a revolving door, or your guys can’t get the puck off the boards and out which usually is a time for a goaltender to clear their mind and get ready for the next few shots, or you have to face two guys on the doorstep while on of your guys is behind your net because of a bad read.
He keeps talking about players not producing up to expectation/norms.
I think he expected Vesey to score 20 goals this year.
Apparently the "plan" was just to have every player have a career year every year. Can't believe it's not working out.
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What evidence has been presented to you that makes anything in the first paragraph true. Based on his decision making, there has been zero indication that he has been savvy with the cap or CBA. He has shown little to no signs of knowing when and how to use those numbers abd measurables. Aka trading a 6th round pick for a future 6th round pick to a better team. That's not a talent misunderstanding or instinct thing. Any idiot can understand why that is an absurd thing to do from a basic value premise
Or specifically that his "strength" is in any way above average or an indication of being smart?
In paragraph two, I think it's concerning to use the word smart, and then qualify all the parts of being a gm that qualify as smart or intelligent are voodoo.
Any trained monkey can alphabetize.
I think MBA and hired by billionaire are doing a lot work for, "botts is smart".
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