Speculation: Jakob Chychrun being held out of the Coyotes lineup until a trade is completed

[93gilmour93]

The number of dance partners keeps dwindling for the Coyotes. How long has this guy been openly on the market for?

 

[spockBokk]

To Yotes:
Scott Morrow
Jack Drury
2023 1st
2024 1st

To Canes:
Schmaltz
Chychrun

Canes would need retention on one or both to to the tune of over $3M to fit in those guys.

 

[MadeUpName]

To Yotes:
Scott Morrow
Jack Drury
2023 1st
2024 1st

To Canes:
Schmaltz
Chychrun

Carolina can't add that much Cap and it has already been reported that they are probably not in on Schmaltz

 

[Ted Hoffman]

The number of dance partners keeps dwindling for the Coyotes. How long has this guy been openly on the market for?

The trade is going to happen tomorrow.

I can definitely see it being addressed in the future how to handle this but clearly it’s an issue now. If it’s sit for a week no problem but now the optics of how the coyotes are treating their star is doing no favours for the franchise going forward

As I said elsewhere, the Coyotes could instead decide to not dress him due to "coach's discretion." Good luck filing a grievance on that, much less winning it and forcing the team to play the guy.

 

[57special]

Ostlund is going nowhere. He will be a star in the NHL.

Of course he is

 

[Llewzaher]

I dont think BA needs to feel pressured to sell Chychrun for less than he wants at this point. He has great value for teams that may want to pay up for a run at the cup. After the draft he will likely accept less

 

[57special]

I dont think BA needs to feel pressured to sell Chychrun for less than he wants at this point. He has great value for teams that may want to pay up for a run at the cup. After the draft he will likely accept less

He should have less value after the TDL, for pretty obvious reasons. If I’m on a playoff team, I certainly want him on the team for this year’s run, not after it’s over.

There is always pressure in a high profile job. If BA that he is still not be offered enough after all this time, and that he will get what he wants after the TDL has passed…..well, I guess it’s possible, but improbable, to me. Maybe he turned down a better offer months ago that is no longer possible, and is gauging present offers by that one.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Also, he’s FINE with it. He wants to be traded. He’s not happy he got hurt last year just before the deadline and dragged this out another 12 months.

Yep he wants to get traded and an injury ruins it.

What if he doesn't get moved at the deadline?

A colossal failure on the Arizona Coyotes and I definitely could see the NHLPA get involved.

 

[93gilmour93]

The trade is going to happen tomorrow.


As I said elsewhere, the Coyotes could instead decide to not dress him due to "coach's discretion." Good luck filing a grievance on that, much less winning it and forcing the team to play the guy.

Only thing is it’s been made public that’s not the reason for it and nobody would believe that excuse at this point. I’m not sure if a grievance can happen or not but Ferraro brought it up and he doesn’t just throw stuff out there unless it’s got some merit

 

[hbk]

Only thing is it’s been made public that’s not the reason for it and nobody would believe thiat excuse at this point. I’m not sure if a grievance can happen or not but Ferraro brought it up and he doesn’t just throw stuff out there

Chychrun and his agent agreed to this strategy after last year where he got injured right before the deadline. Now does his views change if he doesn't get traded?

 

[Flan the incredible]

If they held him out for this long without a deal being close it shows that they do not have faith in him staying healthy. Plus they are probably asking for way too much.

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

Only thing is it’s been made public that’s not the reason for it and nobody would believe thiat excuse at this point. I’m not sure if a grievance can happen or not but Ferraro brought it up and he doesn’t just throw stuff out there unless it’s got some merit

Didn’t AZ literally tweet he was sitting for trade related reasons? I agree with you good luck to them try to spin that as a “ coaches decision “ retrospectively

 

[hbk]

Didn’t AZ literally tweet he was sitting for trade related reasons? I agree with you good luck to them try to spin that as a “ coaches decision “ retrospectively

they could just say "healthy scratched" and be done with it. Nobody has ever been healthy scratched before. AZ invented this.

 

[GrumpyKoala]

So out until his contract expire?

 

[93gilmour93]

they could just say "healthy scratched" and be done with it. Nobody has ever been healthy scratched before. AZ invented this.

They could’ve said that but they didn’t so here we are

 

[CycloneSweep]

they could just say "healthy scratched" and be done with it. Nobody has ever been healthy scratched before. AZ invented this.

They could have and no one would question it really. The fact they said trade related reasons, if they don't end up trading him, its going to look extremely suspect. Especially with reports that he has pretty much had trades done and then last second go "no we want more"

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

Buffalo is about to scoop him up for a hot dog and a handshake.

 

[SLAYER]

Only thing is it’s been made public that’s not the reason for it and nobody would believe that excuse at this point. I’m not sure if a grievance can happen or not but Ferraro brought it up and he doesn’t just throw stuff out there unless it’s got some merit

It doesn't matter what reason they choose to sit him, as long as it's not some form of (provable) discrimination. If it doesn't violate the terms of the CBA, they cannot file a (viable) grievance.

 

[Josey Wales]

Ektard hahahaPenguins Leading Landing Spot for CHychrun..(e4) maybe Talbot I’ve been talking about the Penguins and Chychrun for days now. Obviously, the GM knows a thing or two about jake’s dad….but the pressure is REALLY on…The Penguins are also talking about Cam Talbot…

 

[Nakawick]

Wrong thread

 

[MadeUpName]

It would be a fitting end to all of this if Carolina did trade for him and Chychrun's first game back in 3 weeks was at Arizona State arena against his former team

 

[93gilmour93]

It doesn't matter what reason they choose to sit him, as long as it's not some form of (provable) discrimination. If it doesn't violate the terms of the CBA, they cannot file a (viable) grievance.

I’m curious what is exactly written in the CBA as it pertains to a situation like this

 

[hbk]

They could have and no one would question it really. The fact they said trade related reasons, if they don't end up trading him, its going to look extremely suspect. Especially with reports that he has pretty much had trades done and then last second go "no we want more"

source on the asking for more?

As reported by Friedman the LA trade was "close" in the mind of AZ and it was LA who didn't think it was close. That's negotiations.

AZ is entitled to set a price and hold out for it. Maybe they get it. Maybe they don't. That's negotiations. Zero apologies for protecting the asset. Sorry. They got burnt last year and they took corrective actions after he saw the player logging 30 mins of ice time his last game against Chicago.

I’m curious what is exactly written in the CBA as it pertains to a situation like this

absolutely no violation to the cba whatsoever and I'm sure the league would love to get something from the NHLPA to put a clause preventing "healthy scratching a player for a prolonger period" in the cba. We will call it the Paul Bissonnette clause.

 

[CycloneSweep]

source on the asking for more?

As reported by Friedman the LA trade was "close" in the mind of AZ and it was LA who didn't think it was close. That's negotiations.

AZ is entitled to set a price and hold out for it. Maybe they get it. Maybe they don't. That's negotiations. Zero apologies for protecting the asset. Sorry. They got burnt last year and they took corrective actions after he saw the player logging 30 mins of ice time his last game against Chicago.

Ill try and find it, apparently there was almost a deal with Edmonton and AZ, Holland thought it was done then AZ came back and asked for more so Holland went and got Ekholm.

I feel like they are sitting Chychrun in an attempt to tank better and using the trade as an excuse.

 

[hbk]

Ill try and find it, apparently there was almost a deal with Edmonton and AZ, Holland thought it was done then AZ came back and asked for more so Holland went and got Ekholm.

I feel like they are sitting Chychrun in an attempt to tank better and using the trade as an excuse.

they lost 2 games in regulation in the month of February. They failed miserably if that was the goal.

Maybe the real goal was to protect the asset. Based on what happened last year at deadline that seems logical.