Speculation: Jakob Chychrun being held out of the Coyotes lineup until a trade is completed

[MadeUpName]

you can type it all you want, doesnt mean he gets that....

I bet Carolina would pay close to that soon. They are in Arizona on deadline day so it should make an easy swap.

Morrow or Drury or 2024 1st + 2023 1st + 2nd for Chychrun + Bjugstad

 

[Mr Positive]

Seems like it’s got to be an Eastern team. Anyone who hasn’t made a big move out there has got to be sweating a bit.

Plus look at all the cross conference trades. Teams prefer to trade to the other conference when it comes to major pieces

 

[thewookie1]

So who here feels like Arizona can actually keep Chychrun through the deadline without it negatively reflecting on their franchise? Them sitting him practically all of February only to keep him would certainly be a rather damming look.

 

[Flying Dego]

So who here feels like Arizona can actually keep Chychrun through the deadline without it negatively reflecting on their franchise? Them sitting him practically all of February only to keep him would certainly be a rather damming look.

The FO and fans may say "we'll just keep him if we don't get our price" but I think we see a last minute deal when they cave a bit on their price tag.

I don't think they keep Chychrun through this year.

 

[rt]

So who here feels like Arizona can actually keep Chychrun through the deadline without it negatively reflecting on their franchise? Them sitting him practically all of February only to keep him would certainly be a rather damming look.

It would be annoying to fans like you and me and media types. Not sure hockey ops gives a rats ass.

 

[mouser]

Market value is quite low for taking on salary. That is definitely NOT the deal breaker, unless Arizona wants market value+++ for taking on some salary, which I'm sure every GM will balk at and look elsewhere to improve their team.

Between the Boston-Washington deal and the St. Louis-Toronto deal, Minnesota retained $3 million in salary and got 4th and 5th round picks.

Minnesota retained about $160k of salary combined in the two trades.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

The nightmare scenario for Arizona:

* Chychrun doesn't get traded by the deadline, for whatever reason​

* He goes back into the lineup (unless they really are never going to play him again until he gets traded - which probably is not a good idea)​

* He gets hurt (again) between the deadline and the end of the season​

* It's (yet) another injury that will keep him out well past the start of the following season​

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The rest of the points that follow are pretty easy to figure out. I'm not saying Arizona has to trade him at this point - it doesn't, it can hold out until the 31st of never for the desired asking price - but if he's not dealt by 3pm ET Friday and he doesn't go into the lineup on Friday night at home vs. Carolina or even Sunday vs. New Jersey, it's going to raise lots of eyebrows and lots of questions around the league.

 

[rt]

Minnesota retained about $160k of salary combined in the two trades.

People forget that cash doesn’t equal cap and that it’s nearly March.

The nightmare scenario for Arizona:

* Chychrun doesn't get traded by the deadline, for whatever reason​

* He goes back into the lineup (unless they really are never going to play him again until he gets traded - which probably is not a good idea)​

* He gets hurt (again) between the deadline and the end of the season​

* It's (yet) another injury that will keep him out well past the start of the following season​

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The rest of the points that follow are pretty easy to figure out. I'm not saying Arizona has to trade him at this point - it doesn't, it can hold out until the 31st of never for the desired asking price - but if he's not dealt by 3pm ET Friday and he doesn't go into the lineup on Friday night at home vs. Carolina or even Sunday vs. New Jersey, it's going to raise lots of eyebrows and lots of questions around the league.

It makes a lot of sense to take the best offer they can get this week. I won’t argue with you there.

 

[HSF]

It would be annoying to fans like you and me and media types. Not sure hockey ops gives a rats ass.

they should do

is an extra pick or prospect really worth the huge distraction?

 

[rt]

they should do

is an extra pick or prospect really worth the huge distraction?

It’s not more of a distraction today than it was four months ago.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

If he isn't traded at the TDL I have a slight suspicion the Blues will push for him at the draft. But I 100% feel he's gone before then.

 

[Kingspiracy]

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But when it all comes out in the wash, I’m expecting 2x 25th overalls and 1x 55th overall in actual value coming back for Chychrun and minor value headed out.

I dont think that is unreasonable. It just comes down to the value associated with prospects instead of one of the firsts and in which draft for the picks.

If it was say bjornfot or similar, a 1st in 24 and a 2nd in 23, there would be plenty of suitors. Perhaps rival gms are trying to put some conditions on the draft picks.

 

[Schemp]

It would be annoying to fans like you and me and media types. Not sure hockey ops gives a rats ass.

It wouldn't annoy me! Actually that's the outcome I hope for.

 

[Schemp]

It’s not more of a distraction today than it was four months ago.

I like the distraction. It gets me from dwelling on how pathetic the world is right now.

 

[hbk]

So who here feels like Arizona can actually keep Chychrun through the deadline without it negatively reflecting on their franchise? Them sitting him practically all of February only to keep him would certainly be a rather damming look.

Like we can look worse? Lol. AZ has nothing to lose.

 

[wetcoast]

I don't see how the price goes up as we get closer to the deadline. Potential suitors are dropping off as they acquire other pieces. GMs are bound to get tired is this strong arm tactic and just abandon their bid all together, and Zona has some pressure to get a deal done after sitting him for like 10 games.

Not saying the price will for sure go down but I am not certain it will go up either.

It's supply and demand and demand has gone down.

 

[sxvnert]

If the Yotes dont trade him, Chychrun should take the rest of the year off and go on vacation.

 

[KingPuckChoo]

i'm hearing Arizona has a verbal agreement in place that would send Chychrun in return for Yashin & DiPietro

they're finalizing the details as we speak, stay tuned

 

[wetcoast]

As much as a few teams have loaded up, I See the Devils and Islanders as the only teams that have landed true difference makes. Chychrun, Kane and Karlsson are going to have a much bigger impact on the race than the Bruins, Bolts and Leafs moves over the weekend. Gonna be a real interesting week ahead.

Karlsson isn't getting traded it's a salary cap world and he has 3 years left at 11.5 million.

Kane might get traded I guess but his value might be overstated here.

I really wonder if Chychrun moves at this point and even if he does it might not be a playoff team.

The Leafs, Bruins, NJ and the NYI really added some important pieces to fit their needs not sure if any of those 3 guys really has a bigger impact in the playoffs.

 

[Djp]

It's supply and demand and demand has gone down.

Yes and no….

it depends on the position and team needs

Horvat, Oreilly, Tarasenko, Meier we’re well known players thst teams had 8nterest in.

the Dynamics can be difficulypt because you are also dealing with a time clock. If there is a delay with other deals tied to the value of the big fish coukd lead to delays in trades. You also can run into issues if there are peop,e who don’t have to sell them just holding out for return.

 

[Flying Dego]

If the Yotes dont trade him, Chychrun should take the rest of the year off and go on vacation.

"OK bud, we couldn't find a trade for ya. Let's have you lace back up those skates and win one for your Yotes!"

I'll be real shocked if he's not a late deadline trade once AZ relents on a pick or prospect.

 

[Empoleon8771]

 

[sxvnert]

Caps are an interesting team. Orlov out...50% 2.3m of chychrun for 2 years in. I like it.

 

[Unsustainable]

I see this as being a Canes move, and maybe one other player in the deal.

 

[Flying Dego]

I think it's cute there's 1 West team trying to pickup a high profile player.

They'll still go to the East but it's the thought that counts.