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Player Discussion Jake Sanderson (D) PART 3

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We just seem to always have key pieces out for long periods of time...We will never win anything if we can never ice our complete team for more than a handful of games
 
I love the amount of crow i'm eating on Sanderson. I had mentally checked out of the draft after Byfield was picked by LA and this is probably the best 1st round we've ever had!
 
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Whatever number it takes to get him here for 8 more years I'd do.

It will be a steal quickly.
 
Ouroboros said:
You can't get too upset at a guy like Byron Bader. The man is a human algorithm - he can only hold a thought in his mind if his model puts it there.
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Immnot sure if it’s his job. But his thing is he made a model that is correct *most* of the time.
 
Burrowsaurus said:
Immnot sure if it’s his job. But his thing is he made a model that is correct *most* of the time.
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How do you figure? His past draft rankings are ludicrous.

It's a model that actively ignores everything that happens in the neutral and defensive zones - it's exclusively production based. As a result it has a single, niche utility; it can identify the baseline dataset of all undersized Euro league scorers that may have some NHL potential. The rate of false positives here is going to be insane. It can't tell you anything about the qualitative differences between players, like what makes Kirill Kaprizov a star and Alexander Pashin a scrub.

Junk data through and through. This is a guy that knows so little about the sport he is supposedly 'analyzing' that he was double counting USHL/USDP data because he didn't realize one was a sub-set of the other.

Grift.
 
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Ouroboros said:
How do you figure? His past draft rankings are ludicrous.

It's a model that actively ignores everything that happens in the neutral and defensive zones - it's exclusively production based. As a result it has a single, niche utility; it can identify the baseline dataset of all undersized Euro league scorers that may have some NHL potential. The rate of false positives here is going to be insane. It can't tell you anything about the qualitative differences between players, like what makes Kirill Kaprizov a star and Alexander Pashin a scrub.

Junk data through and through. This is a guy that knows so little about the sport he is supposedly 'analyzing' that he was double counting USHL/USDP data because he didn't realize one was a sub-set of the other.

Grift.
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It’s a model that uses a piece of data. And I’m pretty sure he posts his stuff for free. It’s nhl equivalency numbers lol.

So I wouldn’t call him a grifter
 
Senscore said:
Whatever number it takes to get him here for 8 more years I'd do.

It will be a steal quickly.
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No question. We might do bridge for the mere fact that we need numbers to work somehow. Kinda like TB did with Sergachev. Only this time, we will have the leverage of being a hockey team players are eager to sign with longterm and it's not something that will bite us in the ass.
 
ZubMeUp said:
Anybody else think we might one day have a legit debate about tim vs jake as who was the better pick?
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Will probably be one the the best 'problems' or 'debates' to have. The 2020 draft is probably going to end up as our best draft of all time
 
ZubMeUp said:
Anybody else think we might one day have a legit debate about tim vs jake as who was the better pick?
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I said it awhile ago but I believe Stützle will be our most dynamic player and Sanderson will be our most important. Timmy is getting better exponentially though, never thought he'd start picking up the defensive side of center so quickly. Still think that Jake will be crucial to shutting down the top forwards in the league...if he can be blessed with a decent partner, look out.
 
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Burrowsaurus said:
It’s a model that uses a piece of data. And I’m pretty sure he posts his stuff for free. It’s nhl equivalency numbers lol.

So I wouldn’t call him a grifter
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It should be free, no one would pay for that crap. His model sucks.
 
Curious what people's opinions are after seeing Seider and Sanderson on the same ice on consecutive nights. Similar career prospects?
 
jake1 said:
Curious what people's opinions are after seeing Seider and Sanderson on the same ice on consecutive nights. Similar career prospects?
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Be easier to make a comparison after Sanderson gets some more heavy matchups consistently but I think each will be their teams best defenders for years to come
 
jake1 said:
Curious what people's opinions are after seeing Seider and Sanderson on the same ice on consecutive nights. Similar career prospects?
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Seider is having a bit of a down year but he'll bounce back in sure.
 
Seider has been pretty much invisible in every game we’ve played Detroit this season, while Jake has been doing Jake things as usual so it’s hard to tell.

People say Seider has been good against other teams, and he had a great year last year so…
 
Ice-Tray said:
Seider has been pretty much invisible in every game we’ve played Detroit this season, while Jake has been doing Jake things as usual so it’s hard to tell.

People say Seider has been good against other teams, and he had a great year last year so…
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I would trade Sanderson for Seider one for one if that trade was ever on the table
 
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