Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VIII

[shelbysdad]

DeBrusk’s Days in Boston Could Be Coming to an End.

“I’m hoping to stay [with the Boston Bruins]. It’s the only team that I know and the team I grew up with. Hopefully it goes in that direction, and we’ll see how it goes. That’s why I have an agent,…

dom.hockey

I know 3 of the teams involved but can't share as of this moment. I will when I can.

In case there are any questions, I shared the teams and source with @Gee Wally

Dom if you can....3 teams interested or a 3 way trade?
Thanks for all the info you share, you are appreciated

 

[Bradely]

Theres been a shitload of deleted posts.

Dom is a long time vetted insider. One of the very few that remain.
He passes evidence of his ‘hearings’ directly to me.
These are not nor ever been for sure will happen. Thats not how it works with any vetted insider. With very little exceptions. (Jimmy Hayes).

Having said that trolling/flaming him or the only couple of other insiders we have will not be tolerated.

And yes this is why most have left here . They dont need the bullshit.

With all the respect I do have, ...for you and the specialist here...

alot of what you are saying Is also present on different social media AND traditional media. Bullshit is part of what WE all need to fight against. I invite them to stay and bring the respect for higher expectation, upgrade to posting and exchange, and increase the information and the discussion here.

I am really sad to read that they are leaving and basically stop the fighting against the bullshit. We need those guy more than ever. Here and in all life area of our society.

Just saying Gee Wally. The fight is more important than ever.

DeBrusk’s Days in Boston Could Be Coming to an End.

“I’m hoping to stay [with the Boston Bruins]. It’s the only team that I know and the team I grew up with. Hopefully it goes in that direction, and we’ll see how it goes. That’s why I have an agent,…

dom.hockey

I know 3 of the teams involved but can't share as of this moment. I will when I can.

In case there are any questions, I shared the teams and source with @Gee Wally

Dom, thank for posting here. Very appreciate it.

 

[shelbysdad]

That is a seriously optimistic (scary) lineup. 2 Rookies in the top 6

It's time to let them fly.....they have percolated enough

 

[Bradely]

I go to Providence games - I buy a flex pack every year and catch a bunch of games. I went last week with Eric from here

I am a fan of his game - he gets back on D, has a world-class bomb for a shot, sees the ice really well - high hockey intelligence

He’s not a winger he’s a center so I’d like to see him play with Zacha & Pastrnak for 10-15 consistent games I believe he’d rack up points

He’s stronger than Poitras as well being 23

DKH.... do you sometimes sleep!
Between Providence games, Bruins games, the Red Sox and the Patriots.... and I do expect you to get some time to the Celtics.... do you also go the Boston College, etc...
you must have a wealthy health and bak account

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

Seems like appropriate value and cap lines up well.

::Twitches:: I would love Drai in a spoked B.

I don't see the oil giving him up for anyone not Pastrnak. I mean he is a top 5 center in the game. Their management has a hard enough time avoiding the tar and feather mobs of fans. They give up Drai and I think heads will roll.

Ullmark would be a key piece for them moving forward and getting them to be playoff contenders, but at the price of Drai?
I'd be shocked.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

::Twitches:: I would love Drai in a spoked B.

I don't see the oil giving him up for anyone not Pastrnak. I mean he is a top 5 center in the game. Their management has a hard enough time avoiding the tar and feather mobs of fans. They give up Drai and I think heads will roll.

Ullmark would be a key piece for them moving forward and getting them to be playoff contenders, but at the price of Drai?
I'd be shocked.

Yeah talking about Draisaitl is fantasy stuff. There's no universe in which he and the Oilers part ways at this point, for anything.

 

[DKH]

DKH.... do you sometimes sleep!
Between Providence games, Bruins games, the Red Sox and the Patriots.... and I do expect you to get some time to the Celtics.... do you also go the Boston College, etc...
you must have a wealthy health and bak account

I’m retired

My life should be a Netflix Documentary on how to have a good time

I go to 3-4 Bruins games a month is the plan I have season tickets

1 Providence game works out to & a college game as well

No Celtics - I will watch probably most but I’m all over usually watching hockey

Red Sox - usually a handful a season as I have multiple friends with season tickets

Patriots - we have season tickets but since covid and kids away I went to 1 home game each of last 4 seasons (I’d rather be on couch)

Easily manageable

I been watching all the Marvel movies in release order right now - just finished Spider Man Homecoming & 90 minutes into Thor: Ragnarok (I want to punch Jeff Gildblum)

When you are retired and young enough and have enough money and you like to do shit it’s pretty fun

I get asked all the time in person ‘do you work’ and I tell them I tried it didn’t like it

Also - no alarm clock just animals that want to be fed or walked- dogs will wait but cats will torture you till they get what they want

 

[neelynugs]

Who would you classify as a middle 6 center - I want to see if we agree

all of them

 

[Trizz617]

I’m retired

My life should be a Netflix Documentary on how to have a good time

I go to 3-4 Bruins games a month is the plan I have season tickets

1 Providence game works out to & a college game as well

No Celtics - I will watch probably most but I’m all over usually watching hockey

Red Sox - usually a handful a season as I have multiple friends with season tickets

Patriots - we have season tickets but since covid and kids away I went to 1 home game each of last 4 seasons (I’d rather be on couch)

Easily manageable

I been watching all the Marvel movies in release order right now - just finished Spider Man Homecoming & 90 minutes into Thor: Ragnarok (I want to punch Jeff Gildblum)

When you are retired and young enough and have enough money and you like to do shit it’s pretty fun

I get asked all the time in person ‘do you work’ and I tell them I tried it didn’t like it

Also - no alarm clock just animals that want to be fed or walked- dogs will wait but cats will torture you till they get what they want

Respect due! Live your life.

 

[Gee Wally]

With all the respect I do have, ...for you and the specialist here...

alot of what you are saying Is also present on different social media AND traditional media. Bullshit is part of what WE all need to fight against. I invite them to stay and bring the respect for higher expectation, upgrade to posting and exchange, and increase the information and the discussion here.

I am really sad to read that they are leaving and basically stop the fighting against the bullshit. We need those guy more than ever. Here and in all life area of our society.

Just saying Gee Wally. The fight is more important than ever.


Dom, thank for posting here. Very appreciate it.

Sure. It happens. The major difference is Dom supplied me with privately with screenshots from texts and who his source is .

Also many times I get secondary sources. One of which is a major players agent.
Like I said they have been vetted.

 

[JAD]

My Sweet Lord, what will Sweeney do?

 

[shelbysdad]

My Sweet Lord, what will Sweeney do?

My thought is that if a Jake trade happens, we could be active with a bunch of people.....if not, I think very little will happen. We are not in a position to add depth, so it's go big or go home for me

 

[Number8]

Theres been a shitload of deleted posts.

Dom is a long time vetted insider. One of the very few that remain.
He passes evidence of his ‘hearings’ directly to me.
These are not nor ever been for sure will happen. Thats not how it works with any vetted insider. With very little exceptions. (Jimmy Hayes).

Having said that trolling/flaming him or the only couple of other insiders we have will not be tolerated.

And yes this is why most have left here . They dont need the bullshit.

For the love of God can the internet warriors take heed of Wally here??

Some of us really value the privilege of having people with an inside track share with us what they can.

If you feel the need to slag them off, go somewhere else. I think I can speak for many when I say I personally don’t give a shit about what anyone thinks about what Dom and others share when they can - so spare us the bullshit and don’t f*** up a good thing up for the rest of us.

 

[EvilDead]

If you were a scout and watched that game especially the first period you saw a complete skillset intersecting with high hockey IQ

However, he is inconsistent and motivated turns the compete dial from idling to running fast (I’m visualizing my snow blower here)

He is what he is

if I’m the GM of Edmonton I tell/joke with Louie his dad to tell Jake he’s a UFA we are coming for him

Unfortunately I don’t like Edmonton roster past about 5 guys (don’t give me RNH, I’m not up for 4 years of a guaranteed HFB whipping boy) one thing I’m certain is RNH and Boston Bruins fans are a bad matchup

DeBrusk I’m still sitting on 6/40 he’s got chemistry with Pastrnak & Zacha but he needs to stop being George Harrison and bust out he’s certainly capable of

DeBrusk has the speed & brains to play with McDavid

He’s a maddening player - frustrating and to often is idling but I still sign him if he takes 6/40

I think he’s untradeable though if you want him long term when he’s got Edmonton out there

Ryan Nugent Hopkins is much better than people on here want to give him credit for. Especially since he's one of four people in that Edmonton locker room that produce a consistent amount of offense. Furthermore, need I remind people here that the Bruins still have a depth problem at center. While Charlie Coyle's play, T-Fred's growth as more than just a grinder/goon, and the emergence of Matty Poitras as a potential cornerstone of the future is positive, it still doesn't change the fact that the Bruins still don't have a number one center. Zacha, while talented, is an average second line center at best, Coyle has no guarantee of maintaining this level of performance over multiple seasons, and the fact that Danton Heinen is now being called upon to play on the right of Coyle and Marchand isn't a positive sign for this forward core. Especially when the guy whose supposed to fill that slot in DeBrusk is petering out offensively.

RNH may not be a first line center in Edmonton, but when you have to go up against two generational talents in Leon Draisaitl and Conor McDavid that's not a winable battle for any player this day and age. The fact is that Nugent Hopkins would be a first line center here and would pair nicely with Marchand and give you some flexibility with how you can set up your lines.

And as a sidebar: I find myself rolling my eyes at people who quote the nonsense spewed by people like Ty Anderson who doesn't watch out of market NHL games at all yet thinks he's qualified to pontificate on Nugent Hopkins based on doing a quick google search for his stats off Hockey Reference dot com yet says x player on the Bruins is unmovable despite them playing sub par. If moving on from DeBrusk and some prospects is what it takes to get Nugent Hopkins, you do it. No questions asked. The Bruins have to have a first line center.

 

[Bradely]

I’m retired

My life should be a Netflix Documentary on how to have a good time

I go to 3-4 Bruins games a month is the plan I have season tickets

1 Providence game works out to & a college game as well

No Celtics - I will watch probably most but I’m all over usually watching hockey

Red Sox - usually a handful a season as I have multiple friends with season tickets

Patriots - we have season tickets but since covid and kids away I went to 1 home game each of last 4 seasons (I’d rather be on couch)

Easily manageable

I been watching all the Marvel movies in release order right now - just finished Spider Man Homecoming & 90 minutes into Thor: Ragnarok (I want to punch Jeff Gildblum)

When you are retired and young enough and have enough money and you like to do shit it’s pretty fun

I get asked all the time in person ‘do you work’ and I tell them I tried it didn’t like it

Also - no alarm clock just animals that want to be fed or walked- dogs will wait but cats will torture you till they get what they want

DKH..fun reaiding and agree with all the above. happy for you to drive your life with all the fun and love possible.. If I had the chance to choose... and please don't respond I"m not Sur I would be the choice of anyone but, you, Gee Wally, Dom and Lady fan would be my choice for a cold beer! Take care.

Yeah talking about Draisaitl is fantasy stuff. There's no universe in which he and the Oilers part ways at this point, for anything.

I personnel would not not take Draisaitl on my club!!!!

 

[MattFromFranklin]

My Sweet Lord, what will Sweeney do?

History shows he'll make a trade at the deadline. He doesn't make excuses like Chiarelli did. I'd be stunned if he traded Jake, but I suspect he'll make at least one trade.

 

[Carl Hungus]

Seeing a Dom post again is like being a kid on christmas morning

Just thread ban the trolls the people love Dom

 

[DKH]

all of them

Ok here goes middle six (second or third line center)

Coyle - middle six will

Zacha - middle six but flip to LW if DeBrusk leaves

Poitras - will start out next year as middle six and see if looks like eventually a top line C (2-3 years away from Savard type ?)

Frederic & Geekie can play all over & up and down - love these types

Merkulov - definitely middle six skillset

Beecher - 4th line C but legit NHL could rise

Boqvist - bottom 6 but smart player with speed and knows what he’s doing

Coyle & Zacha were good enough to replace krejci & Bergeron in games 3 and 4 in Florida and 2 dominant playoff wins

I can go there with Poitras or merkulov at third line center next season if need be

 

[DKH]

Ryan Nugent Hopkins is much better than people on here want to give him credit for. Especially since he's one of four people in that Edmonton locker room that produce a consistent amount of offense. Furthermore, need I remind people here that the Bruins still have a depth problem at center. While Charlie Coyle's play, T-Fred's growth as more than just a grinder/goon, and the emergence of Matty Poitras as a potential cornerstone of the future is positive, it still doesn't change the fact that the Bruins still don't have a number one center. Zacha, while talented, is an average second line center at best, Coyle has no guarantee of maintaining this level of performance over multiple seasons, and the fact that Danton Heinen is now being called upon to play on the right of Coyle and Marchand isn't a positive sign for this forward core. Especially when the guy whose supposed to fill that slot in DeBrusk is petering out offensively.

RNH may not be a first line center in Edmonton, but when you have to go up against two generational talents in Leon Draisaitl and Conor McDavid that's not a winable battle for any player this day and age. The fact is that Nugent Hopkins would be a first line center here and would pair nicely with Marchand and give you some flexibility with how you can set up your lines.

And as a sidebar: I find myself rolling my eyes at people who quote the nonsense spewed by people like Ty Anderson who doesn't watch out of market NHL games at all yet thinks he's qualified to pontificate on Nugent Hopkins based on doing a quick google search for his stats off Hockey Reference dot com yet says x player on the Bruins is unmovable despite them playing sub par. If moving on from DeBrusk and some prospects is what it takes to get Nugent Hopkins, you do it. No questions asked. The Bruins have to have a first line center.

love your takes - they are usually hot but well written and you should replace Skip Bayless your that good. You were so far ahead of talking heads on Jayden Daniels - lot of your views I thought were ‘what?’ I started paying attention and you were correct. I’m a fan.

RNH I can’t see leaving Edmonton and he like Hymen are good but always remind me how good players who played with Orr, Esposito, Lemieux & Gretzky became HOF worthy and many made it. It’s really a credit that they can do it and clearly had high skills to begin with.

He was first overall and he’s good I’m just not sure at his age playing here if he came how he’d fare - you give him Pastrnak he probably is a PPG but although his cap hit is very good - he’s 31 in April and has 5 more years after

The NMC is what he wanted

I’m GM of Edmonton I got McDavid, I need to keep Draisaitl- I have very good players who can play with skill in RNH & Hyman

If I can get DeBrusk on a similar deal to the latter and have 5 F like those guys I’m pretty freaking happy

I’m Edmonton RNH fits and I try to get DeBrusk; if they can get RNH, Hyman, and DeBrusk long term for about $16 M with the two studs you are in business

That’s a heck of a core

 

[EvilDead]

love your takes - they are usually hot but well written and you should replace Skip Bayless your that good. You were so far ahead of talking heads on Jayden Daniels - lot of your views I thought were ‘what?’ I started paying attention and you were correct. I’m a fan.

RNH I can’t see leaving Edmonton and he like Hymen are good but always remind me how good players who played with Orr, Esposito, Lemieux & Gretzky became HOF worthy and many made it. It’s really a credit that they can do it and clearly had high skills to begin with.

He was first overall and he’s good I’m just not sure at his age playing here if he came how he’d fare - you give him Pastrnak he probably is a PPG but although his cap hit is very good - he’s 31 in April and has 5 more years after

The NMC is what he wanted

I’m GM of Edmonton I got McDavid, I need to keep Draisaitl- I have very good players who can play with skill in RNH & Hyman

If I can get DeBrusk on a similar deal to the latter and have 5 F like those guys I’m pretty freaking happy

I’m Edmonton RNH fits and I try to get DeBrusk; if they can get RNH, Hyman, and DeBrusk long term for about $16 M with the two studs you are in business

That’s a heck of a core

So then the question becomes if Ken Holland isn't willing to part with RNH, where else can you get that missing piece from? Because the Bruins keep touting the fact that they can win now and rebuild on the fly without the need to tank. So far they've been able to slowly replace the cogs in the machine. However, they are in dire need of a center that can fill the void left behind by Bergeron in the short to medium term and options look to be drying up.

Tomas Hertl is on injured reserve, Morgan Frost lacks size and is on a down year with the Flyers, Nic Dowd is just flotsam and jetsam and doesn't fill a need, Ottawa has no incentive to give the Bruins a discount on any player when they own the rights to the Bruins' first round pick, Vancouver came out of nowhere so the annual talk of dumping JT Miller has gone away, Monahan's off the market, Devils are vying for a playoff spot so they're not going to be sellers and the same goes for the Islanders.

Realistically, the Bruins options outside of Nugent-Hopkins are Nick Bjugstad from Arizona whose also getting eyed up by Colorado, Trevor Zegras from Anaheim whose hurt and looks to be less than promising compared to other prospects in their system, and Jack Roslovic from Columbus whose been absolutely dreadful this season and is on the last year of his contract. Rumors are that the Sabres could be forced into shopping Casey Mittlestadt or Alex Tuch but there's no chance in hell the Bruins could swing a trade for either one of them.

The market for pieces for the Bruins to add looks like slim pickings. That said, Don Sweeney's been able to hit the mark before on the trade deadline. So I guess we'll have to see.

 

[DKH]

So then the question becomes if Ken Holland isn't willing to part with RNH, where else can you get that missing piece from? Because the Bruins keep touting the fact that they can win now and rebuild on the fly without the need to tank. So far they've been able to slowly replace the cogs in the machine. However, they are in dire need of a center that can fill the void left behind by Bergeron in the short to medium term and options look to be drying up.

Tomas Hertl is on injured reserve, Morgan Frost lacks size and is on a down year with the Flyers, Nic Dowd is just flotsam and jetsam and doesn't fill a need, Ottawa has no incentive to give the Bruins a discount on any player when they own the rights to the Bruins' first round pick, Vancouver came out of nowhere so the annual talk of dumping JT Miller has gone away, Monahan's off the market, Devils are vying for a playoff spot so they're not going to be sellers and the same goes for the Islanders.

Realistically, the Bruins options outside of Nugent-Hopkins are Nick Bjugstad from Arizona whose also getting eyed up by Colorado, Trevor Zegras from Anaheim whose hurt and looks to be less than promising compared to other prospects in their system, and Jack Roslovic from Columbus whose been absolutely dreadful this season and is on the last year of his contract. Rumors are that the Sabres could be forced into shopping Casey Mittlestadt or Alex Tuch but there's no chance in hell the Bruins could swing a trade for either one of them.

The market for pieces for the Bruins to add looks like slim pickings. That said, Don Sweeney's been able to hit the mark before on the trade deadline. So I guess we'll have to see.

Excellent summation - if we are led to believe the Elias Lindholm rumors maybe him in offseason

I think the FO thinks they are good enough right now with Zacha & Coyle and will reaccess after season what to do

Definitely slim Pickens

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So then the question becomes if Ken Holland isn't willing to part with RNH, where else can you get that missing piece from? Because the Bruins keep touting the fact that they can win now and rebuild on the fly without the need to tank. So far they've been able to slowly replace the cogs in the machine. However, they are in dire need of a center that can fill the void left behind by Bergeron in the short to medium term and options look to be drying up.

Tomas Hertl is on injured reserve, Morgan Frost lacks size and is on a down year with the Flyers, Nic Dowd is just flotsam and jetsam and doesn't fill a need, Ottawa has no incentive to give the Bruins a discount on any player when they own the rights to the Bruins' first round pick, Vancouver came out of nowhere so the annual talk of dumping JT Miller has gone away, Monahan's off the market, Devils are vying for a playoff spot so they're not going to be sellers and the same goes for the Islanders.

Realistically, the Bruins options outside of Nugent-Hopkins are Nick Bjugstad from Arizona whose also getting eyed up by Colorado, Trevor Zegras from Anaheim whose hurt and looks to be less than promising compared to other prospects in their system, and Jack Roslovic from Columbus whose been absolutely dreadful this season and is on the last year of his contract. Rumors are that the Sabres could be forced into shopping Casey Mittlestadt or Alex Tuch but there's no chance in hell the Bruins could swing a trade for either one of them.

The market for pieces for the Bruins to add looks like slim pickings. That said, Don Sweeney's been able to hit the mark before on the trade deadline. So I guess we'll have to see.

You’ve encapsulated what some of us have been saying for quite a while - that you can’t just roll out and grab a top 6 center or especially a traditional 1C. The great majority of them are on the team that drafted them in the top half of the first round, with some obvious exceptions.

 

[EvilDead]

You’ve encapsulated what some of us have been saying for quite a while - that you can’t just roll out and grab a top 6 center or especially a traditional 1C. The great majority of them are on the team that drafted them in the top half of the first round, with some obvious exceptions.

It's not impossible for the Bruins to accomplish this. It would, however, require a lot of capital and effort to get it done and that's sometimes been an achilles heel with Sweeney when making trades for the biggest fish out on the market. Outside of what's currently available at the given moment in time at center, not many players fill the gap without the Bruins commit to a complete restructuring of their roster and team building philosophy. There are still high end forwards to get like Jake Guentzel and others, but it still doesn't address a critical need. If the Bruins were willing to kick the can down the road at center and just take best player available on the wings or a D-man, then swapping DeBrusk with some other players for what's currently available like Jake Guentzel or Jakob Chychrun while riding with Zacha and Coyle at center isn't terrible. It really depends on what Sweeney is willing to part with. Is he willing to wait on getting a first line center? Is he willing to uproot multiple big pieces and alter the team's current DNA and make a trade for a first line center happen? I genuinely don't know. I do know that doing nothing isn't really a solution to the problem at this point when this team risks losing an asset like DeBrusk for nothing in the offseason.

 

[Ladyfan]

For the love of God can the internet warriors take heed of Wally here??

Some of us really value the privilege of having people with an inside track share with us what they can.

If you feel the need to slag them off, go somewhere else. I think I can speak for many when I say I personally don’t give a shit about what anyone thinks about what Dom and others share when they can - so spare us the bullshit and don’t f*** up a good thing up for the rest of us.

This ^ is a REALLY good post from a REALLY good poster.

 

[DominicT]

DeBrusk’s Days in Boston Could Be Coming to an End.

“I’m hoping to stay [with the Boston Bruins]. It’s the only team that I know and the team I grew up with. Hopefully it goes in that direction, and we’ll see how it goes. That’s why I have an agent,…

dom.hockey

I know 3 of the teams involved but can't share as of this moment. I will when I can.

In case there are any questions, I shared the teams and source with @Gee Wally

3 teams I can say with absolutely 100% confidence: St Louis, Detroit, Calgary.

And there are more I probably don't know about.