Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII

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Stick with JDB, even when his scoring dries up he helps defensively and on the PK. He will start scoring again, patience is required.
 
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In the article, some sources believe DeBrusk would get the same contract he signed with the Bruins if he went on the open market. If the Bruins trade DeBrusk, the belief would be that the Bruins could get a 2nd round pick and a B-prospect, which Fluto states, doesn't help the Bruins much this season so the Bruins trading him seems the least likely option, (extend, let him walk, trade), unless those assets are packaged for a player like Lindholm.
 
So two agents saying hes worth low as $4m and high as $5.25m.

Can’t imagine that article goes over well around here. I was called a hater for saying $5m AAV. And it looks like I was on the higher end of that range.
 
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ELMONT, N.Y. — Jake DeBrusk may not be showing up on the scoresheet with the regularity the Bruins are accustomed to, but the winger is showing up just about everywhere else.

Whether it’s even strength, killing penalties, or on the power play, DeBrusk continues to produce quality minutes. It’s just the points that have been missing a third of the way into the season.

Heading into Friday night’s game against the Islanders at USB Arena, DeBrusk was averaging 13:40 minutes of even-strength ice time and 1:58 of shorthanded time — both are third best among Boston’s forwards. He also mans a net-front presence on Boston’s top power-play unit.

DeBrusk got even more ice time in the Bruins’ 5-4 shootout win on the Island, logging 17:49, and then getting denied by Ilya Sorokin in the shootout.

“Well, I feel like he’s contributing for us and to the success we’ve had, and I’ve asked a lot of him. I’ve put him in situations where he has been maybe in a more defensive role, which I’m sure has hurt his numbers, but he does a lot of good things,” coach Jim Montgomery said following the club’s morning skate. “He helps our penalty kill. He’s on our power play, [and] 5-on-5. I [think] his second and third effort and tenacity on the puck is coming back to the levels that we saw regularly last year.”


“You just try to do your best and try to impact the game in any way you can,” he said. “And obviously I’m used to producing and it’s going to come.

“It’s a long season left, so it’ll be nice when things turn around, but it’s pretty easy to focus when there’s different tasks at hand. You’re going up against, whether it’s on the PK, [the opponents’] top power-play units or on power play trying to pitch in.”

Montgomery checks in with DeBrusk often to remind his winger that numbers don’t paint the whole picture, but the coach is aware that players can get down in the dumps when the puck luck isn’t there.

“The frustration’s natural, right? I mean, he’s used to producing. He’s used to producing at a higher level and he’s produced this year. And we just know that if his habits and details continue to trend in the direction they are, that the results are going to come,” said the coach. “He’s too talented a hockey player.”

It’s a big season for DeBrusk, who is scheduled to become a free agent following the Stanley Cup final when his two-year, $8 million extension expires.


While acknowledging the future is something everyone thinks about, DeBrusk maintains he hasn’t let thoughts about his next pay day creep into his head and affect his play.

“Yeah, I mean obviously I don’t really have anything to think about in a good term on [my contract status], so I haven’t changed my mind-set on it,” he said. “It’s one of those things where I’m just trying to find my game and get some production consistently.”
 

ELMONT, N.Y. — Jake DeBrusk may not be showing up on the scoresheet with the regularity the Bruins are accustomed to, but the winger is showing up just about everywhere else.

Whether it’s even strength, killing penalties, or on the power play, DeBrusk continues to produce quality minutes. It’s just the points that have been missing a third of the way into the season.

Heading into Friday night’s game against the Islanders at USB Arena, DeBrusk was averaging 13:40 minutes of even-strength ice time and 1:58 of shorthanded time — both are third best among Boston’s forwards. He also mans a net-front presence on Boston’s top power-play unit.

DeBrusk got even more ice time in the Bruins’ 5-4 shootout win on the Island, logging 17:49, and then getting denied by Ilya Sorokin in the shootout.

“Well, I feel like he’s contributing for us and to the success we’ve had, and I’ve asked a lot of him. I’ve put him in situations where he has been maybe in a more defensive role, which I’m sure has hurt his numbers, but he does a lot of good things,” coach Jim Montgomery said following the club’s morning skate. “He helps our penalty kill. He’s on our power play, [and] 5-on-5. I [think] his second and third effort and tenacity on the puck is coming back to the levels that we saw regularly last year.”


“You just try to do your best and try to impact the game in any way you can,” he said. “And obviously I’m used to producing and it’s going to come.

“It’s a long season left, so it’ll be nice when things turn around, but it’s pretty easy to focus when there’s different tasks at hand. You’re going up against, whether it’s on the PK, [the opponents’] top power-play units or on power play trying to pitch in.”

Montgomery checks in with DeBrusk often to remind his winger that numbers don’t paint the whole picture, but the coach is aware that players can get down in the dumps when the puck luck isn’t there.

“The frustration’s natural, right? I mean, he’s used to producing. He’s used to producing at a higher level and he’s produced this year. And we just know that if his habits and details continue to trend in the direction they are, that the results are going to come,” said the coach. “He’s too talented a hockey player.”

It’s a big season for DeBrusk, who is scheduled to become a free agent following the Stanley Cup final when his two-year, $8 million extension expires.


While acknowledging the future is something everyone thinks about, DeBrusk maintains he hasn’t let thoughts about his next pay day creep into his head and affect his play.

“Yeah, I mean obviously I don’t really have anything to think about in a good term on [my contract status], so I haven’t changed my mind-set on it,” he said. “It’s one of those things where I’m just trying to find my game and get some production consistently.”
Hopefully Jake finds his game soon. He hasn't been playing bad but needs to start putting up points....for himself and the team.
 
Stick with JDB, even when his scoring dries up he helps defensively and on the PK. He will start scoring again, patience is required.
I like Jake and have since his drafting. I think he is dealing with an injury. Last night in the shootout his shot barely made it to the net and usually be just fires it so that's my guess on his scoring woes. Still love him as a Bruin but like others have said, not at any cost! Look at the Leafs throwing crazy money at too many players they had to search the bargain bin for goaltending which is your most important piece. Just look at us, how many points would we have with Sampsonov and no backup. I don't even want to think about our days without Linus and Swayman!
 
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I like Jake and have since his drafting. I think he is dealing with an injury. Last night in the shootout his shot barely made it to the net and usually be just fires it so that's my guess on his scoring woes. Still love him as a Bruin but like others have said, not at any cost! Look at the Leafs throwing crazy money at too many players they had to search the bargain bin for goaltending which is your most important piece. Just look at us, how many points would we have with Sampsonov and no backup. I don't even want to think about our days without Linus and Swayman!
Good post, not sure about Jake,I like you have been a Jake guy, but last night he was not good, and that has not been the case recently, even though not scoring but he was contributing in other ways. I advocated earlier in the season for moving a goaltender, mainly for cap space and preferred Ullmark because of cap and age, but to be honest the way this team is built and the system they play unless someone blows you away with a deal you need both goalies this year.
 
Hopefully Jake finds his game soon. He hasn't been playing bad but needs to start putting up points....for himself and the team.
I've seen comments here and there in GDTs that Jake is floating and seems disinterested. I am not seeing that at all. He very much is battling hard along the boards and is hustling. Thing is, he is one of the Bs that is supposed to be scoring goals, so I agree with your comment.

Best I can come up with for his lower than expected point totals thus far:

1) I think part of the problem is that he isn't playing with the playmakers he had last season. Big dropoff in playmaking from Bergy/Krejci. Those guys were able to find Jake when he was in a good shooting position. The centers this season are not getting him the puck in those same situations. His shooting pct has doubled over the past 30 or so days, but is still only roughly half of his career average.

2) His assist totals would be pretty good if the guys he is setting up would convert better. For example. in the NJ game Jake set up Pasta nicely several times but none were converted. Been quite a few other games where Jake has made really nice passes to set guys up, but the shots missed the mark. Team simply doesn't have the same offensive punch as last season.

3) Left wing, right wing, 1st line, 2nd line, 3rd line...holy hell, good luck developing chemistry. Monty has been using Jake as a bit of top-9 utility player. Same can be said for some other players as well. Monty has even said, regarding Jake, that the Bs are using him in a different role this season and that they are wanting him to focus on some things that he is not used to focusing on.

Having said all that, as you say. one way or another Jake needs to figure things out and start putting the puck in the back of the net better. It's a contract year for him and he will be faced with signing somewhere for less money than he was looking at when the season began if his offensive production continues to suffer. Might also find himself on another team come the trade deadline if DS decides to package him in a deal. Who knows.

I'm still on team Jake. I like a lot of the non-scoring things he is doing. As long as he stays healthy I think his offensive production will improve in the second half of the season.
 
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I don't buy the lack of chemistry angle regarding DeBrusk when Geekie, recently playing center, and Heinen continue to elevate their game on whatever line they are on. I also don't buy him playing with a lack of talent which is hindering his production when he has played with Marchand and Pastrnak this season.

To me, it's two things with DeBrusk, it's mental, and he's used to playing a north south game that the Bruins have been getting away from. He seems to get too down on himself. He's saying the right things in interviews, but he's missing that jump he used to have.

I am really curious if they are any stats to back up this claim or not, but to me, most of his goals 5 on 5 throughout his career have come from scoring off the rush. It's a bit ironic, but DeBrusk's style of play was better suited under Cassidy's system which enforced a high-pace attack with defensemen carrying the puck out of the defensive zone to speed up the transition into the offensive zone. Montgomery's system this season seems to enforce having a forward down low to help transition the puck into the offensive zone for a full team attack in the offensive zone that enforces battling for pucks and maintaining offensive zone time.
 
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I don’t know though because DeBrusk had his best season last year, especially when you consider games played. I think the bigger cause is just lack of talent and lots of movement on the lines
 
I've seen comments here and there in GDTs that Jake is floating and seems disinterested. I am not seeing that at all. He very much is battling hard along the boards and is hustling. Thing is, he is one of the Bs that is supposed to be scoring goals, so I agree with your comment.

Best I can come up with for his lower than expected point totals thus far:

1) I think part of the problem is that he isn't playing with the playmakers he had last season. Big dropoff in playmaking from Bergy/Krejci. Those guys were able to find Jake when he was in a good shooting position. The centers this season are not getting him the puck in those same situations. His shooting pct has doubled over the past 30 or so days, but is still only roughly half of his career average.

2) His assist totals would be pretty good if the guys he is setting up would convert better. For example. in the NJ game Jake set up Pasta nicely several times but none were converted. Been quite a few other games where Jake has made really nice passes to set guys up, but the shots missed the mark. Team simply doesn't have the same offensive punch as last season.

3) Left wing, right wing, 1st line, 2nd line, 3rd line...holy hell, good luck developing chemistry. Monty has been using Jake as a bit of top-9 utility player. Same can be said for some other players as well. Monty has even said, regarding Jake, that the Bs are using him in a different role this season and that they are wanting him to focus on some things that he is not used to focusing on.

Having said all that, as you say. one way or another Jake needs to figure things out and start putting the puck in the back of the net better. It's a contract year for him and he will be faced with signing somewhere for less money than he was looking at when the season began if his offensive production continues to suffer. Might also find himself on another team come the trade deadline if DS decides to package him in a deal. Who knows.

I'm still on team Jake. I like a lot of the non-scoring things he is doing. As long as he stays healthy I think his offensive production will improve in the second half of the season.

You posted exactly what I was going to say, but I'm sure nobody would read it because people think I have this crazed obsession over Jake.

I think the biggest thing is consistency. Monty need to pick lines and stop switching every night. 1/3 into the season and we don't have set lines. Gotta get chemistry going.
 
I've seen comments here and there in GDTs that Jake is floating and seems disinterested. I am not seeing that at all. He very much is battling hard along the boards and is hustling. Thing is, he is one of the Bs that is supposed to be scoring goals, so I agree with your comment.

Best I can come up with for his lower than expected point totals thus far:

1) I think part of the problem is that he isn't playing with the playmakers he had last season. Big dropoff in playmaking from Bergy/Krejci. Those guys were able to find Jake when he was in a good shooting position. The centers this season are not getting him the puck in those same situations. His shooting pct has doubled over the past 30 or so days, but is still only roughly half of his career average.

2) His assist totals would be pretty good if the guys he is setting up would convert better. For example. in the NJ game Jake set up Pasta nicely several times but none were converted. Been quite a few other games where Jake has made really nice passes to set guys up, but the shots missed the mark. Team simply doesn't have the same offensive punch as last season.

3) Left wing, right wing, 1st line, 2nd line, 3rd line...holy hell, good luck developing chemistry. Monty has been using Jake as a bit of top-9 utility player. Same can be said for some other players as well. Monty has even said, regarding Jake, that the Bs are using him in a different role this season and that they are wanting him to focus on some things that he is not used to focusing on.

Having said all that, as you say. one way or another Jake needs to figure things out and start putting the puck in the back of the net better. It's a contract year for him and he will be faced with signing somewhere for less money than he was looking at when the season began if his offensive production continues to suffer. Might also find himself on another team come the trade deadline if DS decides to package him in a deal. Who knows.

I'm still on team Jake. I like a lot of the non-scoring things he is doing. As long as he stays healthy I think his offensive production will improve in the second half of the season.

Agreed. I don't agree with the " lazy floater " comments when it comes to his game. When I watch him, he's working hard, engaging in board battles, making good plays.

At the end of the day though Debrusk needs to score and help provide the team with a viable scoring option when Pasta goes to the bench. That's his main role on the team and he's had some bad luck in that area, though I would hesitate to call it a case of being snakebitten. I have been happy with the rest of his game but the team needs him to start going on a heater.
 
Agreed. I don't agree with the " lazy floater " comments when it comes to his game. When I watch him, he's working hard, engaging in board battles, making good plays.

At the end of the day though Debrusk needs to score and help provide the team with a viable scoring option when Pasta goes to the bench. That's his main role on the team and he's had some bad luck in that area, though I would hesitate to call it a case of being snakebitten. I have been happy with the rest of his game but the team needs him to start going on a heater.
Coach Montgomery agrees with you (see Wally's post #631 above). If DeBrusk wasn't working hard the coach would bench him.
 
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Agreed. I don't agree with the " lazy floater " comments when it comes to his game. When I watch him, he's working hard, engaging in board battles, making good plays.

At the end of the day though Debrusk needs to score and help provide the team with a viable scoring option when Pasta goes to the bench. That's his main role on the team and he's had some bad luck in that area, though I would hesitate to call it a case of being snakebitten. I have been happy with the rest of his game but the team needs him to start going on a heater.

I think if Monty finally,  finally stops juggling the lines every damn game, and picks a lime going forward, doesn't switch mid game and see what happens for like 5 games, maybe we'll see some chemistry and consistency. Can't do that when the coach keeps flipping things. Let's settle things down. Pick a line and try it. Monty hasn't settled on any lines. I want to get Jake scoring but I want the other players to get comfortable too.
 
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4 goals, 28 games, regardless of his improved and trusted play in the other 2 zones, simply not good enough
Monty is satisfied. But you know what WOULD also help? Putting him on a line, sticking with that line for a few games, and not switching it up and moving and trying different combos.

Let him gel with a line for a few games to see how it goes. He's gotta get going. SO let's see if he does with a line.
 
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Monty is satisfied. But you know what WOULD also help? Putting him on a line, sticking with that line for a few games, and not switching it up and moving and trying different combos.

Let him gel with a line for a few games to see how it goes. He's gotta get going. SO let's see if he does with a line.
As we all know ALL of the players have had to deal with the changes with linemates. Some have been able to deal with it. They are supposed to be professional players. It is worse because guys are out.

He isn't going to be with Brad and Bergy and needs to make his own offense. It is getting old and I like the kid. He really needs to put up some points...soon.
 
I'm not really buying the "he needs consistent line mates argument"

The amount of excuses made for JD is exhausting. Over the years he has never developed chemistry with any of our centers except last year with Marchand and Bergeron. He's always gotten his own regardless who was in the middle but now it's not the case and it raises big concerns.

The fact of the matter that we are even suggesting he needs consistent line mates to produce is all the reason to not invest long term in him. If you are paying a forward 5 million + he better be able to gel with a multitude of top six players
 
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