Player Discussion Jake DeBrusk VII

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Well when you consider the rising cap, 6 million today is really about 4 million but 6 million in our minds means “brad Marchand bergeron Pastrnak money”

Coyle makes 5 something and that deal was inked awhile back.

Looks particularly tough on Jake right now because he’s going goalless, but he would absolutely get 6 on the open market.


Tough decision for sweeney as I wouldn’t sign the guy at his current pace and I’m a Jake fanboy compared to most on here

As Harry Siden would say, he may get $6 mil on the open market, but that doesn't mean he's worth it.
 
I don't think he's playing awful, he's just not producing offensively right now and hasn't gone on one of his heaters yet. He's shooting waaaaaay below his career average right now, so I think it's logical that it'll go back up as the season goes on.
 
I don't think he's playing awful, he's just not producing offensively right now and hasn't gone on one of his heaters yet. He's shooting waaaaaay below his career average right now, so I think it's logical that it'll go back up as the season goes on.

I think he is playing very well, but not producing offensively. His 200 foot game is the best it has ever been in his career.
 
Well when you consider the rising cap, 6 million today is really about 4 million but 6 million in our minds means “brad Marchand bergeron Pastrnak money”

Coyle makes 5 something and that deal was inked awhile back.

Looks particularly tough on Jake right now because he’s going goalless, but he would absolutely get 6 on the open market.


Tough decision for sweeney as I wouldn’t sign the guy at his current pace and I’m a Jake fanboy compared to most on here
This is the point I was trying to make. Just didn't go into detail about it haha.

I'd be hesitant to give the man 6 mill but I can see a few teams offering that or more.

He's doing everything great aside from putting the puck in the net
 
I think he is playing very well, but not producing offensively. His 200 foot game is the best it has ever been in his career.

That I would agree with, but I don’t think this fanbase, and more importantly the cap and roster building/reality of the league can sustain signing guys to 6 if all they can bring is a well rounded game lacking goals/points. Hoping he gets hot sooner rather than later

I like Jake but would not give him 6 million.

I would if he was on another 30 goal pace…as it stands…
 
Hopefully he pots a few - he was very good in that Dallas game. Next to Beecher & Marchand was their best 3 zone forward
 
I think he is playing very well, but not producing offensively. His 200 foot game is the best it has ever been in his career.

Which is why he won't get 6 per unless his O game comes around. If he plays like a solid two way thrid liner like he is doing right now (which is not a shot at him) then he'll get paid like one, and if he wants more, he should find someone else to pay it.
 
Which is why he won't get 6 per unless his O game comes around. If he plays like a solid two way thrid liner like he is doing right now (which is not a shot at him) then he'll get paid like one, and if he wants more, he should find someone else to pay it.

Completely agree. If he gets 18 goals this year he is likely going to end up in the 4-5 million range. If he gets 25+ then he is over 6
 
Great article once again by Dom. Hope people actually take the time to read all of it.
 
Depth scorers are depth scorers for a reason. Consistency comes with a huge price tag. He will eventually catch fire and have 4 goals in 6 games and everyone will be fine. If everyone was consistent there wouldn't be enough cap room to keep them. Guys like DeBrusk are always streaky and like many have said, he's proving why he's a 4.5 mil to 6 mil player not a 6+.
If he wants more money than that then sign Bertuzzi in the off-season. Same type of player.
 
Depth scorers are depth scorers for a reason. Consistency comes with a huge price tag. He will eventually catch fire and have 4 goals in 6 games and everyone will be fine. If everyone was consistent there wouldn't be enough cap room to keep them. Guys like DeBrusk are always streaky and like many have said, he's proving why he's a 4.5 mil to 6 mil player not a 6+.
If he wants more money than that then sign Bertuzzi in the off-season. Same type of player.

I'm sorry, but DeBrusk is a MUCH better player than Bertuzzi. Bertuzzi is a depth scorer, who barely knows what direction the defensive zone is in. DeBrusk has developed into a fairly elite defensive player.
 
It's kind of a bonus as a fan that he has not gotten hot yet ( 12-1-2) because you know he will .Drives his price down as well if they want to keep him which I would if it's digestible :naughty::laugh:.
 
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The Bruins have one top 2 center, and DeBrusk doesn't play with him. They have two wings who are as good or better, and he doesn't play with them. He doesn't fit with Coyle and JVR. He played well with Zacha and Pastrnak but Marchand plays better. Him and Poitras have had their chances but Poitras isn't always going, and the other forward on that line hasn't been all that helpful. Is this really a DeBrusk problem? He is what he is. Good player, can't do it by himself.
 
The Bruins have one top 2 center, and DeBrusk doesn't play with him. They have two wings who are as good or better, and he doesn't play with them. He doesn't fit with Coyle and JVR. He played well with Zacha and Pastrnak but Marchand plays better. Him and Poitras have had their chances but Poitras isn't always going, and the other forward on that line hasn't been all that helpful. Is this really a DeBrusk problem? He is what he is. Good player, can't do it by himself.

Are you asking if it’s a Debrusk problem that he individually doesn’t fit with any of the bruins centers?

The answer to your question is a resounding yes.

He hasn’t been good when he doesn’t have an elite center feeding him the puck and that has become more and more evident the larger the sample size gets away from those two.
 
The thing is unless Debrusk starts scoring, you can find someone to do what he does defensively for a fraction of the price.

Sure , I don't disagree.with that. If Debush get 12 goals and 15 assists this year he is not getting the big contract.

I was responding to someone who compared him with Bertuzzzi and there just is no comparison between the 2 as players.
 
The Bruins have one top 2 center, and DeBrusk doesn't play with him. They have two wings who are as good or better, and he doesn't play with them. He doesn't fit with Coyle and JVR. He played well with Zacha and Pastrnak but Marchand plays better. Him and Poitras have had their chances but Poitras isn't always going, and the other forward on that line hasn't been all that helpful. Is this really a DeBrusk problem? He is what he is. Good player, can't do it by himself.

Obviously going from Marchand and Bergeron to Heinen and Poitras is a gigantic step down and that's super super super super fair.

I was hoping that him clearly being a leader of the forward group would push him to find the next level in his game after a very strong season last year and that hasn't happened. And that is OK. Doesn't mean he isn't a good player, but disappointing.

edit: I don't want to discount the strides in his all around game he has made as those are real.
 

Jake DeBrusk, greatly in need of something good happening, like, say, a puck or two going in the net off the end of his stick, played in his 400th regular-season game Saturday night with the Canadiens in town.

Louie DeBrusk, the family’s senior NHL statesman, played 401 games. Perhaps as early as Wednesday when the Bruins play in Sunrise, Fla., it will be Louie’s boy Jake, so besotted by the game as a kid that he once wore his new hockey skates to bed, who’ll hold the family record for games played.

“Oh, total bragging rights,” said the smiling 27-year-old chip off the old DeBrusk block, prior to faceoff on Causeway Street. “I’ll never catch him on penalty minutes, but right now, I think I’m getting the lead on everything else.

Jake didn’t score in the 5-2 thumping of the Habs, but he was a presence shift to shift, firing eight shots (three on net) and picking up an assist — his first point in five games.

“I thought it was Jake DeBrusk’s best game of the year, for 60 minutes,” noted coach Jim Montgomery. “I thought he was relentless.”

could be, theorized Montgomery, that Jake was motivated by having his dad in the building.

“Maybe it was a great thing for him,” said Montgomery. “Maybe it’s related. Everyone wants to play well for their dad. You want to score for your mom and you want to play well for your dad. You don’t want to get crap in the car on the ride home.”

The senior DeBrusk, in town as part of the Bruins’ “Fathers Trip” that begins with Sunday’s charter flight to Florida, accrued his 401 games across a decade-plus in the NHL. His hands best suited to the crustier side of the game, Louie also amassed a career 1,161 penalty minutes.

“There’s lots of different things that need to go right,” said a frustrated DeBrusk, noting how complex the game can seem when the points aren’t there. “When things are going hot and things are going amazing [the points follow]. And when it doesn’t, things can go this way.”

When he is on, with speedy wheels in full Roadrunner (meep! meep!) motion, DeBrusk is a legit scoring force, able to slice and dart his way into high-danger scoring spots. To date, though, even with his average time on ice at a career high 17:31 prior to Saturday night, points have been harder for him to find than it once was for his dad to find willing fight opponents.

DeBrusk has been in this spot before, for stretches long and short, each marked with understandable frustration. This time has been no different. It has weighed on him.

“Yeah, I think I’m my own biggest enemy,” he said. “I think that’s something that’s been with me throughout my entire career. I think the mental things in life, honestly, it’s what you think of yourself — If you wake up and it’s raining, if you feel good about yourself, that doesn’t matter . . . doesn’t matter if the sun comes out or not.”

In times like these with a struggling player, noted Jim Montgomery, much of a coach’s time and energy are spent teaching, typically in one-on-one video sessions. Player and coach spend ample time comparing clips of when times were good vs. times of struggle.

“There’s a lot of teaching when things aren’t going well,” noted Montgomery, though not naming DeBrusk directly “You’ve got to show, like, ‘Well, you’re turning your back on the puck . . . you’re like a shark turning away from it and you’re never in a support position to get a breakaway,’ or whatever the case may be.”


It’s an understatement, or “misunderstood by a lot of people,” added Mongtomery, how hard DeBrusk can be on himself.

“Internally, he demands a lot,” he said. “Externally, he comes across as this very laid back, calm individual. But he’s very proud and an elite NHL player who expects to do really good things to help the Bruins.”

Marchand, who took over the captaincy this year from Bergeron, said he understood what DeBrusk has been going through.

“I see it, yeah, because I’ve lived it,” said Marchand, when asked if he saw how hard DeBrusk is on himself. “I lived it last year. It’s very tough, when you are going through it, not to be hard on yourself. You expect . . . this is a game of results . . . even though it’s process-oriented . . . at the end of the day, you need results and that’s what allows you to feel good.”

By his eye, said Marchand, DeBrusk has worked diligently in practice, especially of late. He is too good, too much of a “special player” for it to continue much longer.

“Guys like him, he’s so gifted and so talented,” added Marchand, “when he does the right things, he’s able to capitalize on his opportunities. He’s been good. He’s not playing bad. The puck just isn’t going in for him. He’s all around it. He’s going to the net hard, makes great plays. Sometimes you just need a bounce or a lucky break.”

The timing for this dip, though never good, has been particularly bad for DeBrusk. He is on an expiring contract, one that averages a $4 million payout, and is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1. He has plenty of time to pick up the pace, position himself for a huge payday, but he needs to start piling the pennies of goals and assists on his side.

“We’re winning,” he said. “I say that a lot. We’re winning, and I know I’m not scoring, but I do think I help the team in other ways, too . . . penalty killing, the defensive side of the puck. It’s a bigger foundation for my game. So when the points come . . . ”

Ideally, they’ll come soon, with free agency approaching, and with a team that undoubtedly will need him to contribute over what is a very long season.

“When it goes to contract talks or whatever,” he said, laughing as he noted the realities of market forces, “I just have to focus on getting that damn puck in the net.”
 
had a good game vs the Habs, man, even a goal going in off his ass could get him going, the effort is there, results sadly haven`t been
 
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