Speculation: Jacob Trouba traded or waived?

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That was the word back in July when this all went down. I forgot if it was Friedman, Staple or someone else. I'll try to find the link.

I can't find it off-hand (because when I search on Google, every article seems to be from the last few hours or from November), but I did find this note from Uncle Larry:

"There is no guarantee that Trouba would accept a trade even to a club on his approved list if that means leaving his wife and nine-month-old (as of training camp) behind.”
 
Controversial in the sense that it's sort of a workaround to NTCs. Whole idea of NTCs is that you have some control over your destination if you get traded. If management can say "we're going to waive you if you don't accept a trade to one of these teams on your NTC list", then that defeats the purpose of the NTC list. Not much Trouba can do about it now, but it's something that players (and the union) will likely keep in mind for the future.

It’s always been the case and has been used for years. Just happened to Macdonagh, I’m pretty sure it happened to Boyle was it in Tampa like 20 years ago.

He has a limited NTC. He can block teams on his list. If you aren’t playing up to your contract to the point that a team would rather lose you for nothing then keep you, it’s kind of on you.

I don’t see anything controversial here
 
This whole situation doesn't get f***ed up if not for Covid. The Pandemic pushed back his wifes residency which was the timeframe from his contract going from NMC to limited NTC... He's been put in a tough spot due to that. the Rangers would have been able to move him over the past summer if the pandemic wasn't a thing.

anyways, must be tough for these millionaires and their DR wives, hope they will recover.... but not in Pittsburgh please... thanks
 
People lament that the Rangers are struggling.

Do you not think it’s a huge distraction when the GM tried to axe his captain in the summer and the captain’s wife lobbied the captain’s agent to violate the unwritten rules of his contract by publicly leaking he wasn’t going to report to a team that trades for him (one not on his no trade list)?

That is hugely distracting. This was always going to end in an ugly fashion. Rip the bandaid off Chris.
 
Business or not, if you’re a player in the NHL and you wanna sign with the Rangers, and it’s between two teams, with the way they are handling this situation with their captain, might be the last place I would wanna go.
I agree with you but that's not the reality. Guys go where the money is and where the lights are the brightest.

Chicago doesn't seem to have trouble getting guys to go there....
 
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To me he seems be be getting a lot of hate for stating that he would prefer to stay a Ranger. I assumed he must have actually said it because it's being thrown around like it was a fact that he wouldn't report to anyone.

I haven't been following this very closely at all, but I don't blame him for making his feelings known nor do I blame the team for doing what they are now. My only issue is with fans making him out to be the villain, when it seems he's just putting his family before his job and that's a good thing.

Can't hate on the guy for using his NTC, gaming his NTC to his advantage, and wanting to stay in New York. That's what's in his contract and what he thinks is best for himself and his family. That being said, when you start hearing reports (from multiple people) that teams are shying away from trading for him because he doesn't want to leave and won't be happy I don't think it's too difficult to figure out who's putting that out there and for what reason.
 
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Leaking their plans this morning, is more than likely the Rangers trying to force his hand, into accepting a trade they have in place.

If it’s not, it means they’ve found no takers for his $8 million deal, and are just throwing it out there. Where he will likely clear, and now they’ve got the possibility of a locker room issue. At the very least, it’s a situation they don’t want to address everyday, until it’s resolved. Especially when things aren’t going great to begin with.

So if they’re trying to flex their muscles and let him know he doesn’t hold all the cards, it could backfire, in the form of a locker room issue.

Bad team just aren’t in the business of paying an extra $8 million this season (and next) to keep being bad. If a team has $8 million available, it’s likely their internal budget. So he’ll likely clear if this isn’t trade related. It’s not June, where teams have budget money to spend still.

Next problem is, if he does get claimed, like it or not, it’s gonna cost them a pretty penny in draft and/or prospect capital, to find a replacement. Assuming they’re serious at making a deep run. They will have received nothing for an $8 million player, to help ease the cost of replacing him.

Yes, he has his flaws, but they are still a better team with Jacob Trouba. So unless they have a deal for someone like Rasmus Andersson in their back pocket, not sure how this makes them any better. He’s still an imposing player at times, and if he plays a supporting role, he can be a force still. Unfortunately in NY, they’re still asking him to play a role more suited to his salary.. This isn’t an addition by subtraction situation. They’ll need a replacement if they’re serious about winning a Cup.

The good thing for Trouba is, if they are trying to force a trade, he’ll know what team that is, and can look at the waiver order and decide if he wants to take the chance he ends up in a much worse situation. He’ll know that’s likely where he’s going, or he could end up with one of the 8-10 teams below them could make his season a nightmare.

If he is claimed tomorrow, I also wouldn’t get too excited if I was a Rangers fan, thinking they suddenly have $8 million to play with. Within minutes, they’ll also likely announce they’ve acquired someone like Andrew Copp or JT Compher.

This could get real juicy though, and that’s always fun for fans. The NHLPA can’t be happy with this news, and players around the league, have to be thinking to themselves, why sign in NY? Not only did they pull this with Trouba, but Goodrow back in the summer. It just doesn’t look good from a player’s perspective. You’d be a fool not to think about what they’ve done to two players now, who both had protection, if you’re thinking about signing a deal with Drury.

As for Trouba, he’s done everything not to leave the Rangers. The funny part is, he’s not against going to Detroit from what I understand. He just knew they were interested, doesn’t want to leave NY and put them and 2-3 other likely destinations, on his NTC.

Problem is, Drury and the Rangers don’t seem to care very much what Trouba wants, if they’re willing to go this route.

Good bet, he agrees to be traded this morning. If he’s not, then they probably are just randomly throwing him on waivers, with all kinds of hope, someone claims him.

He’ll likely agree if it’s a forced trade though. You definitely don’t want to be walking into a new locker room, and everyone in there knows, you went to great lengths, to not be there. You put on that good soldier cap, and accept the Rangers were able to screw you.
 
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It’s always been the case and has been used for years. Just happened to Macdonagh, I’m pretty sure it happened to Boyle was it in Tampa like 20 years ago.

He has a limited NTC. He can block teams on his list. If you aren’t playing up to your contract to the point that a team would rather lose you for nothing then keep you, it’s kind of on you.

I don’t see anything controversial here
It doesn't happen often, hence you referencing a trade that happened two years ago, and really only happened because Tampa was hamstrung by the flat cap. If it starts to happen more often players should keep that in mind in future negotiations, and if it does you can thank Chris Drury for that.
 
If he doesn’t report, that actually increases his value, doesn’t it? He’s a hugely negative asset to any team that has to pay his contract. But if he breaches the contract … hey, that’s an easy grounds for termination. It gets him up to being a mere zero value asset rather than a huge negative one.
 
He's overpaid, but not that bad.
No, he’s legitimately bad.

He’s been completely outplayed by Braden Schneider for at least a year for our second RHD pair. They will occasionally go back and forth between who gets that slot because coaches defer to veterans and veteran captains, but it’s like clear cut to any objective observer that he’s third pair at best for us.
 
I can't find it off-hand, but I did find this note from Uncle Larry:

"There is no guarantee that Trouba would accept a trade even to a club on his approved list if that means leaving his wife and nine-month-old (as of training camp) behind.”
Oh okay, so it was just speculation. I thought it was a fact. He has just been getting so much flak that I thought it must have been just something I missed.

Honestly I don't blame the dude for saying he wouldn't be happy if he was traded, he's just looking out for his family. I also don't blame the team for the stance they're taking today.
 
“Saying he wouldn’t be happy” and “Saying he wouldn’t report” are two very different things.
 
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Ryan Lindgren has also been absolute ass this season.

Heck, I'd argue that the only D-man on the Rangers who is doing his job properly is Adam Fox.
Schneider and Jones.

Fox has had easily his worst season. He’s only doing his job by virtue of that his level can’t drop that much because he’s just a great hockey player.

The bad thing is everyone on defense underperforms except the two young guys who play the least.
 
No, he’s legitimately bad.

He’s been completely outplayed by Braden Schneider for at least a year for our second RHD pair. They will occasionally go back and forth between who gets that slot because coaches defer to veterans and veteran captains, but it’s like clear cut to any objective observer that he’s third pair at best for us.
Yeesh.

Alright, I'm hoping the Habs stay out unless there's a nice incentive, which hasn't been figured out and likely won't be until the trade is completed.
 
I could be misremembering.. but didnt the Rangers waive Goodrow and then trade compensation to the Sharks for taking him? Maybe even a prearranged move?

I dont know if that happens here as well. But if it does; is that considered circumvention of the NTC? Would the league and/or NHLPA allow it to happen twice?

Edit: got it mixed up! That was Edmonton and St Louis who traded compensation, not NYR and San Jose. Whoops!
 
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Out of the goodness of our hearts?!

I mean if there are teams actively interested in trading for him and the Rangers are threatening waivers, there's a decent change it's a Goodrow situation. So if Drury knows someone would take him off waivers, why eat 50% of his deal?

But that's just me speculating since Drury set the precedent for that already.
 
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