You’re ignoring the fact that he almost hit him.
Speculation: Jacob Trouba traded or waived?
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You’re ignoring the fact that he almost hit him.
Columbus is rumored to be in on him via trade and has plenty of cap space should he hit the wire.
Voight
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You get The Rangers to retain and then at the deadline you retain some more. Maybe Trouba at 25-30% of his salary can lead to a few assets...
NYRFAN218
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He's never outwardly said that (and he obviously wouldn't because then you're going to get possible contract termination ramifications) but it's definitely been put out there into the world that he would not be happy being traded which obviously kills his value and deters any interest. Friedman just referenced it again this week that teams were shying away because they didn't want to acquire a player that didn't want to be there and it was referenced by Brooks over the summer as well.
As for people saying well they could just terminate the contract if he didn't report, what team is going to possibly give up assets for a guy that won't report and what team wants to acquire a guy or dedicate cap space to a guy that does not want to be there? It's not as simple as terminating the contract and no harm no foul because you're dedicating a large portion of your cap at a point where it could be used elsewhere and may not be able to be used once training camp starts.
OtherThingsILike
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It's just nonsense people keep regurgitating because they want to hate the guy.
It was rumored that he might not report, but some Ranger fans treat that as fact.
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The rumor that Trouba won't report to a team not on his list is still just a rumor floating around. The only thing mentioned over and over was that Trouba wouldn't be happy and if you're a team trading for Trouba, do you want a player who won't be happy getting traded and playing for your team?
We have no idea if Trouba really said to Drury, "I'm not reporting." It seems unlikely given the other reports on the situation.
We have no idea if Trouba really said to Drury, "I'm not reporting." It seems unlikely given the other reports on the situation.
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OccidentalOctopus
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Detroit gets:
Trouba @ 50% retention
New York gets:
Holl
Veleno
(retention gymnastics on one of them)
Rangers get a serviceable RH bottom-pair defenseman and a bottom-six forward who just hasn't worked out in Detroit.
Detroit gets to bump Petry off the 2nd pair.
The Rangers could then waive Veleno or Holl to clear the roster spot and $1m of salary.
Add picks as needed.
Roast me.
Trouba @ 50% retention
New York gets:
Holl
Veleno
(retention gymnastics on one of them)
Rangers get a serviceable RH bottom-pair defenseman and a bottom-six forward who just hasn't worked out in Detroit.
Detroit gets to bump Petry off the 2nd pair.
The Rangers could then waive Veleno or Holl to clear the roster spot and $1m of salary.
Add picks as needed.
Roast me.
Gardner McKay
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What Homerism?
These options exist for a reason. Drury had every right to use them. He tried to find Trouba a home over the summer.
I support any GM doing what they have to do to support the best interest of the team, not a given player.
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I'm just terrified that dubas is gonna dubas and trade graves for trouba (with some retention) and an asset thinking he can play 4d chess and then flip trouba to another team somewhere down the line only to be stuck with that POS through next year.
So Trouba is a problem for his Rangers and letting the league know acquiring him likely also a problem for them.
Winner or Whiner?
Controversial in the sense that it's sort of a workaround to NTCs. Whole idea of NTCs is that you have some control over your destination if you get traded. If management can say "we're going to waive you if you don't accept a trade to one of these teams on your NTC list", then that defeats the purpose of the NTC list. Not much Trouba can do about it now, but it's something that players (and the union) will likely keep in mind for the future.
The league needs to do away with NTCs and NMCs. THey always end up making the player the villain in the end. I would like to see them replace these clauses with a cash payment that is available to more players.
In my scenario, you wouldn't get a trade payment for the duration of your ELC. Once you sign your second deal, you would be eligible.
I would base the payments on how long a player has been with the team, as well as if the player had kids that were going to have to move and change schools.
I think the players association would be open to this. In the end, if a team wants to move on from a player, they are going to move on. I also understand that it must be hard as the player to be in this position, but you're a pro athlete, and most of that life doesn't suck. This is one of the few parts that does, but they can make it worth your while with something like this. Money talks, everything else walks.
In my scenario, you wouldn't get a trade payment for the duration of your ELC. Once you sign your second deal, you would be eligible.
I would base the payments on how long a player has been with the team, as well as if the player had kids that were going to have to move and change schools.
I think the players association would be open to this. In the end, if a team wants to move on from a player, they are going to move on. I also understand that it must be hard as the player to be in this position, but you're a pro athlete, and most of that life doesn't suck. This is one of the few parts that does, but they can make it worth your while with something like this. Money talks, everything else walks.
He stinks.
No serious contender should carry him if they don't have to. Rangers GM trying to find away. Can't fault him for that
The homerism in thinking the Rags aren't the bad guys. It was a shitty thing to do to Goodrow and it's still shitty here. Normally I'm all for winning at all costs but this is the kind of thing that can come back and bite you in the ass
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To me he seems be be getting a lot of hate for stating that he would prefer to stay a Ranger. I assumed he must have actually said it because it's being thrown around like it was a fact that he wouldn't report to anyone.
I haven't been following this very closely at all, but I don't blame him for making his feelings known nor do I blame the team for doing what they are now. My only issue is with fans making him out to be the villain, when it seems he's just putting his family before his job and that's a good thing.
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That was the word back in July when this all went down. I forgot if it was Friedman, Staple or someone else. I'll try to find the link.
Luigi Lemieux
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I could see the Flames being one of the teams.
Trouba and an asset to the Flames for Pachal or Miromanov (depending if NYR prefer offensive or stay at home), we don't even have to send cap back. But maybe Kuzmenko (pending UFA) would be re-energized going to NYR if they could use a winger
Trouba and an asset to the Flames for Pachal or Miromanov (depending if NYR prefer offensive or stay at home), we don't even have to send cap back. But maybe Kuzmenko (pending UFA) would be re-energized going to NYR if they could use a winger
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